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REALIST123 said:
Cranked up hasn't a clue. There are many dissatisfied Lidl workers and it has been shown that because they don't pay for breaks and have other little wrinkles, like understaffing, that not only is their new pay rate little more than paid by the established names, you have to work an awful lot harder to earn it.
None of that is familiar to me having managed a Lidl for 18 months or so and covering a couple of other stores. Still, the PH disease is pontificating on things about which you know little or nothing it seems.wolves_wanderer said:
REALIST123 said:
Cranked up hasn't a clue. There are many dissatisfied Lidl workers and it has been shown that because they don't pay for breaks and have other little wrinkles, like understaffing, that not only is their new pay rate little more than paid by the established names, you have to work an awful lot harder to earn it.
None of that is familiar to me having managed a Lidl for 18 months or so and covering a couple of other stores. Still, the PH disease is pontificating on things about which you know little or nothing it seems.sidicks said:
wolves_wanderer said:
REALIST123 said:
Cranked up hasn't a clue. There are many dissatisfied Lidl workers and it has been shown that because they don't pay for breaks and have other little wrinkles, like understaffing, that not only is their new pay rate little more than paid by the established names, you have to work an awful lot harder to earn it.
None of that is familiar to me having managed a Lidl for 18 months or so and covering a couple of other stores. Still, the PH disease is pontificating on things about which you know little or nothing it seems.jimmybobby said:
Going by the statement "Having managed a lidle for 18 months or so and covering a couple of others" I am going to go out on a limb and assume a fair few staff in fact.
Going by the fact they have over 600 stores, then this represents a very small proportion of the workforce...sidicks said:
wolves_wanderer said:
REALIST123 said:
Cranked up hasn't a clue. There are many dissatisfied Lidl workers and it has been shown that because they don't pay for breaks and have other little wrinkles, like understaffing, that not only is their new pay rate little more than paid by the established names, you have to work an awful lot harder to earn it.
None of that is familiar to me having managed a Lidl for 18 months or so and covering a couple of other stores. Still, the PH disease is pontificating on things about which you know little or nothing it seems.wolves_wanderer said:
Considerably more than Realist (I assume). Interesting that someone quoting 2nd hand at best or made up at worst "information" gets an easier ride than someone with real experience. Not surprising, but interesting.
What evidence do we have of this 'real experience'? None whatsoever.And I've already asked about the evidence to support the counter claim.
sidicks said:
Maybe you should look up what 'tangent' means? Commenting on the topic under discussion but with a different opinion is NOT a tangent.
The term used was a 'sidicks tangent' : commenting on what you think the discussion should be, answering questions that weren't asked and/or guessing the value of parameters when faced with someone with first hand experience.Clever, clever man...
legzr1 said:
The term used was a 'sidicks tangent' : commenting on what you think the discussion should be, answering questions that weren't asked and/or guessing the value of parameters when faced with someone with first hand experience.
Stop making yourself look such a fool. The discussion was about the relevance of the Unions in the 21st Century, which was exactly what I commented on.legzr1 said:
Clever, clever man...
Get over yourself and your obsession with my posts. Stop derailing the thread and either post something relevant or f
k off.Edited by sidicks on Sunday 27th September 11:11
REALIST123 said:
Slaav said:
crankedup said:
Thank you.
We can certainly agree your point regarding bad workers, and I go further by saying that bad workers being 'saved' by a Union is entirely wrong on all counts imo.
As for bosses, its true I read about and have personally witnessed so many examples of bullying, offensive behaviour and general wrong toward workers doing by some Company bosses I must appear cynical. Problem on forums is one cannot name and shame.
Sure there are some great bosses around of course, those that steer a good business to be better and recognise the workers efforts within the team. I particularly point to Lidl demonstrating, with actions and words, just this M.O. with staff. On the other side of the fence we have businesses like T**** who treat staff like dirt.
Is that you Cranked or has your account been hacked???We can certainly agree your point regarding bad workers, and I go further by saying that bad workers being 'saved' by a Union is entirely wrong on all counts imo.
As for bosses, its true I read about and have personally witnessed so many examples of bullying, offensive behaviour and general wrong toward workers doing by some Company bosses I must appear cynical. Problem on forums is one cannot name and shame.
Sure there are some great bosses around of course, those that steer a good business to be better and recognise the workers efforts within the team. I particularly point to Lidl demonstrating, with actions and words, just this M.O. with staff. On the other side of the fence we have businesses like T**** who treat staff like dirt.
Btw, if T**** are so cr4p the why not work for Lidl? Just go and get a job there????
Not that I'm particularly critical of any of them, I'm not aware of some compelling reason why anyone has to stay working for them and there are plenty of other jobs available for the able and willing.
CorbynFTW said:
crankedup said:
Well done on your pay increase, or was it a bonus payment paid upon your work performance? Two entirely different scenarios of course.
Do you believe pay, including increases, should be linked to performance?To rely purely upon productivity as a measure of 'worth' regarding annual awards would be very difficult to measure and implement. At what point is employee A worth an increment over employee b. It could be a very divisive form of remuneration. Then again one could see that a place exists for such a scheme within a business that worked on long term targets. Bonus payments can easily be part of a short term incentive policy which can improve productivity, worked on a weekly/monthly payment plan. All depends upon the type of work regarding measurements I think.
crankedup said:
CorbynFTW said:
crankedup said:
Well done on your pay increase, or was it a bonus payment paid upon your work performance? Two entirely different scenarios of course.
Do you believe pay, including increases, should be linked to performance?To rely purely upon productivity as a measure of 'worth' regarding annual awards would be very difficult to measure and implement. At what point is employee A worth an increment over employee b. It could be a very divisive form of remuneration. Then again one could see that a place exists for such a scheme within a business that worked on long term targets. Bonus payments can easily be part of a short term incentive policy which can improve productivity, worked on a weekly/monthly payment plan. All depends upon the type of work regarding measurements I think.
sidicks said:
Get over yourself and your obsession with my posts. Stop derailing the thread and either post something relevant or fk off.
Oh, dry your tears.k off.Edited by sidicks on Sunday 27th September 11:11
Once you've done that perhaps you can bore the s
t out of us and describe how a Lidl manager knows nothing about Lidl or their employees you arrogant, clever chap. crankedup said:
How 'many' lidl workers are dissatisfied and where did this information/survey come from? What are these other little wrinkles you speak of, intriguing.
Many years ago I went for an assessment centre/interview type thing at Lidl's Scottish base at Livingston. They were paying above average money + car for graduates for store/area manager roles.They were quite open that because they paid well they expected you to be at their beck and call pretty much 24/7. IIRC talk was of 60hr weeks but I'd expect there to be significant creep on that and again iirc they had significant churn because people weren't meeting their expectations and/or they couldn't hack it.
In fairness this was 15+ years ago so details are hazy but I vividly remember their head office was a s
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