Tube Strike

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Podie

46,630 posts

276 months

Friday 22nd January 2016
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TFL email said:
All but one of the Tube unions have now suspended their strike action due to take place next week. The remaining union is not deciding on its approach until Monday.

This means that there remains a possibility of industrial action causing disruption to Tube services from late afternoon/early evening on Tuesday 26 January and all day on Wednesday 27 January.

We will send you a further update as soon as the position becomes clear on Monday.

wolves_wanderer

12,387 posts

238 months

Friday 22nd January 2016
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richie99 said:
Just play them along while quietly introducing technology which will do away with their jobs. The more outrageous the settlements, the easier it is to justify investing in technology. Just how stupid do you have to be or is it a deliberate strategy to fill your boots before the party is over.
Technology is coming anyway. They would have to be certifiable not to milk it whilst they can.

kev1974

4,029 posts

130 months

Saturday 23rd January 2016
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richie99 said:
Just play them along while quietly introducing technology which will do away with their jobs. The more outrageous the settlements, the easier it is to justify investing in technology. Just how stupid do you have to be or is it a deliberate strategy to fill your boots before the party is over.
Being pseudo public sector they are probably all on final salary pensions ...

sidicks

25,218 posts

222 months

Saturday 23rd January 2016
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kev1974 said:
Being pseudo public sector they are probably all on final salary pensions ...
No 'probably' about it:

https://tfl.gov.uk/microsites/pensions/documents/t...

https://tfl.gov.uk/microsites/pensions/documents/p...


Edited by sidicks on Saturday 23 January 14:49

Laurel Green

30,780 posts

233 months

Monday 25th January 2016
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Has just been announced that tomorrow's strike has been suspended.

Slaav

4,255 posts

211 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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I had the misfortune of travelling three stops on the Central line yesterday (there and back) to Bank from Holborn.

A quite unpleasant experience but the thing that stood out for me was the poor attitude I witnessed by all but ONE member of staff.

That one single member of staff was a female uniformed member at Bank. She was helping (what looked like) a tourist with one of the large touch screen ticket machines. She came across (as I walked by) as helpful, professional and indeed enjoying her job!

The same can not be said for the 3 staff members hanging on and across a couple of the barriers at Holborn who were simply lounging around chatting to each other. The chap in uniform at Bank was chatting up a passenger he appeared to maybe know slightly and was engrossed in his flirting and 'moves'.

These last 4 uniformed tube workers gave out a very loud 'couldn't give a fk' sort of vibe! Maybe they were just having an off day but that is my own first hand experience from yesterday. This is also not the first time I have witnessed such attitude which was bordering on the 'stay away from me' feeling that was pouring out from staff members.

Whilst I don't condone anybody shouting at another person who is doing their job; I can empathise with the utter frustration and indeed resentment that regular travellers possibly feel for many tube workers.


Sump

5,484 posts

168 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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I'm a firm believer in that if you ask them something and they give a satisfactory answer then that is more than enough. At the end of the day they have a st life in a st job, how happy do you want them to be exactly about that?

egor110

16,876 posts

204 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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Sump said:
I'm a firm believer in that if you ask them something and they give a satisfactory answer then that is more than enough. At the end of the day they have a st life in a st job, how happy do you want them to be exactly about that?
Why's it a st job?

The moneys good and they don't have to worry about the weather as there undercover.

George111

6,930 posts

252 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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Sump said:
I'm a firm believer in that if you ask them something and they give a satisfactory answer then that is more than enough. At the end of the day they have a st life in a st job, how happy do you want them to be exactly about that?
What about call centre workers or shop workers - all on salaries at the modest end of the scale but they have a role to play in the success of their business and keeping customers happy. Just because they have a captive market who can't easily move supplier doesn't mean they should be tardy and piss about.

walm

10,609 posts

203 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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George111 said:
Just because they have a captive market who can't easily move supplier doesn't mean they should be tardy and piss about.
Really? That sounds like exactly why they should be.
Zero incentive to do anything above the bare minimum.
Wasn't it nearly impossible to fire the pissed tube driver?

George111

6,930 posts

252 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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walm said:
George111 said:
Just because they have a captive market who can't easily move supplier doesn't mean they should be tardy and piss about.
Really? That sounds like exactly why they should be.
Zero incentive to do anything above the bare minimum.
Wasn't it nearly impossible to fire the pissed tube driver?
The fact it's hard to sack them is probably half the problem. If I was as rude to my customers as they are then I'd be sacked pronto. But because they are not, it doesn't give them a valid reason for being rude. Rudeness is just rudeness . . . not cause by anything other than bad attitude and in a normal business that would result in the eventual sack.

AMG Merc

11,954 posts

254 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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George111 said:
The fact it's hard to sack them is probably half the problem. If I was as rude to my customers as they are then I'd be sacked pronto. But because they are not, it doesn't give them a valid reason for being rude. Rudeness is just rudeness . . . not cause by anything other than bad attitude and in a normal business that would result in the eventual sack.
+1. Only an idiot would take a job in a customer-centric environment without realising the customer need to be respected at all times.

iphonedyou

9,254 posts

158 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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egor110 said:
Why's it a st job?

The moneys good and they don't have to worry about the weather as there undercover.
The public aren't always very nice, they don't see a lot of sunshine and it's pretty easy to get sick down there.

It's not 'st', per se, but it's not great.

The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

118 months

Wednesday 27th January 2016
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egor110 said:
Why's it a st job?

The moneys good and they don't have to worry about the weather as there undercover.
And they can get a train to work.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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Laurel Green said:
Has just been announced that tomorrow's strike has been suspended.
But instead they're having a 48 hour walkout starting next Saturday at 9pm, through to Monday 9pm. Nice!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/road-and-ra...

Laurel Green

30,780 posts

233 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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I see it's back to the ticket office closures and staff being requested to frequent the platforms and ticket halls to aid the traveling public. Thought that had been resolved, but no, it's now 'Fit for the Future proposals' WTF are they playing at?

Challo

10,158 posts

156 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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Laurel Green said:
I see it's back to the ticket office closures and staff being requested to frequent the platforms and ticket halls to aid the traveling public. Thought that had been resolved, but no, it's now 'Fit for the Future proposals' WTF are they playing at?
WTF indeed. Tube Cheif saying moving staff from ticket booths, to out in front and helping the general public has improved the service and increased customer satisfaction.

How the RMT can claim its not fit for the future is mind blowing. Comments and strikes like these just show how the union leaders are just trying to squeeze every last penny for their employees and no care in the world what anyone thinks of it.

Adam Ansel

695 posts

107 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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The answer to the Tube problems are simple and drastic.
Close the whole thing down.
Then immediately sell off everything to the private sector. Without staff and without strings attached.
The new owners could halve the fares and still make a huge profit.

jezzaaa

1,867 posts

260 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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Does anyone else think we should pay firemen £50k a year and tube drivers the £21k that new graduated Firemen earn???

Do normal above ground train drivers earn like this? What is it that makes them special?

KTF

9,807 posts

151 months

Monday 1st February 2016
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jezzaaa said:
Does anyone else think we should pay firemen £50k a year and tube drivers the £21k that new graduated Firemen earn???

Do normal above ground train drivers earn like this? What is it that makes them special?
No, yes, market forces.