Tube Strike

[Transmitter Man]

PoleDriver said:

Yeah, great idea! The unions fked up British car manufacturing let's see what other areas of industry they can bring down!

Industry, what's that?

[PoleDriver]

Transmitter Man said:

Industry, what's that?

It's what we used to be good at, look it up in a history book!

[Mojooo]

A 2 grand payoff isn't really that much of a payoff.

Also it is easy to say you will only have to work a few nights a year but is there any gurantee - I doubt it.

[Welshbeef]

Mojooo said:

A 2 grand payoff isn't really that much of a payoff.

Also it is easy to say you will only have to work a few nights a year but is there any gurantee - I doubt it.

It's a need the customers have so business adopts to meet that need. Why do they believe they can prevent progress?

Typical unions

Personally I'd not do the rota but plenty would or are in a financial position whereby they might not like doing it but it' helps their financial issues/debt.

[plasticpig]

PoleDriver said:

Yeah, great idea! The unions fked up British car manufacturing let's see what other areas of industry they can bring down!

Management played a big part in it as well. There is an excellent book by James Rupert that describes the whole hideous mess very well. Only £2.99 for the Ebook and well worth a read.

[Mojooo]

Welshbeef said:

It's a need the customers have so business adopts to meet that need. Why do they believe they can prevent progress?

Typical unions

Personally I'd not do the rota but plenty would or are in a financial position whereby they might not like doing it but it' helps their financial issues/debt.

fk the customers its about being selfish and looking out for yourself

Anyway, I think they may be happy to go with the change if certain safeguards are introduced.

I suspect many workers in many fields have been done over by their employers for the sake of 'customer needs' - I suspect if they had a strong unin they would also go on strike.

Don't get me wrong I know business is business but I think more attention should be paid to the rights of workers not to be forced into significant change.

[andymadmak]

Mojooo said:

fk the customers its about being selfish and looking out for yourself

Anyway, I think they may be happy to go with the change if certain safeguards are introduced.

I suspect many workers in many fields have been done over by their employers for the sake of 'customer needs' - I suspect if they had a strong unin they would also go on strike.

Don't get me wrong I know business is business but I think more attention should be paid to the rights of workers not to be forced into significant change.

The 1970s called... They thank you for sharing their vision

[Mojooo]

andymadmak said:

Mojooo said:

fk the customers its about being selfish and looking out for yourself

Anyway, I think they may be happy to go with the change if certain safeguards are introduced.

I suspect many workers in many fields have been done over by their employers for the sake of 'customer needs' - I suspect if they had a strong unin they would also go on strike.

Don't get me wrong I know business is business but I think more attention should be paid to the rights of workers not to be forced into significant change.

The 1970s called... They thank you for sharing their vision

I suspect in the 70s a lot of people felt they were more valued by their employer and they had worth.

[eldar]

Mojooo said:

I suspect in the 70s a lot of people felt they were more valued by their employer and they had worth.

Red Robbo, doing his bit to make the UKs motor industry prosper?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_Robinson_(trad...

Trouble with the old school unions, like the tube drivers, is that their priority is political, rather than their members welfare. Tragic, really - the union bosses prosper, the members lose their jobs.

[Mojooo]

eldar said:

Mojooo said:

I suspect in the 70s a lot of people felt they were more valued by their employer and they had worth.

Red Robbo, doing his bit to make the UKs motor industry prosper?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_Robinson_(trad...

Trouble with the old school unions, like the tube drivers, is that their priority is political, rather than their members welfare. Tragic, really - the union bosses prosper, the members lose their jobs.

What is political about this strike?

Their point seems perfectly reasonable to me and hardly unforseeable.

As someone else has said, automation is coming and they may well all be redundant in 10 years time - why not get the best you can for now.

[johnfm]

Workers aren't "done over".

It is a simple equation about cost to business, value to business and cost of replacement.

[anonymous-user]

Chim said:

50 Grand a year to open and close the fking doors of the train and they go on strike, really beggars belief

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-33459515

Sounds like jealousy to me.

[Mojooo]

johnfm said:

Workers aren't "done over".

It is a simple equation about cost to business, value to business and cost of replacement.

They can do what a lot of other public bodies have done which is to make everyone redundant and rehire on new terms.

A big organisation like TFL I am sure can treat its worker better than trying to force this type of substantial change on them.

[Sump]

The fact that the London Underground doesn't even have phone signal says it all. Even the Indian one does.

For how long will these low class scum with their menial jobs continuously get protected over the technological progression of the underground.

The city is rotten to the core.

[anonymous-user]

Sump said:

The fact that the London Underground doesn't even have phone signal says it all. Even the Indian one does.

Can't really pin that on the drivers though can we?

[anonymous-user]

Sump said:

The fact that the London Underground doesn't even have phone signal says it all. Even the Indian one does.

For how long will these low class scum with their menial jobs continuously get protected over the technological progression of the underground.

The city is rotten to the core.

First time I have ever quoted the same post twice, I think.
To be fair to you, it's a stunning post.

Salt and vinegar with your chips? Jealous much?

[Blaster72]

Sump said:

The fact that the London Underground doesn't even have phone signal says it all. Even the Indian one does.

For how long will these low class scum with their menial jobs continuously get protected over the technological progression of the underground.

The city is rotten to the core.

Low class scum? What a thing to say

[Einion Yrth]

desolate said:

Sump said:

The fact that the London Underground doesn't even have phone signal says it all. Even the Indian one does.

For how long will these low class scum with their menial jobs continuously get protected over the technological progression of the underground.

The city is rotten to the core.

First time I have ever quoted the same post twice, I think.
To be fair to you, it's a stunning post.

Salt and vinegar with your chips? Jealous much?

Who knows? He may know the difference between jealousy and envy though.

[eldar]

Mojooo said:

What is political about this strike?

Their point seems perfectly reasonable to me and hardly unforseeable.

As someone else has said, automation is coming and they may well all be redundant in 10 years time - why not get the best you can for now.

This strike will achieve nothing but to hasten that automation, and trying to screw every last penny out the taxpayer is understandable to a degree, but the greed is excessive.

Its a political strike for sure, bullying 1970s tactics, acting against its members interests by venal leadership.

[anonymous-user]

Einion Yrth said:

Who knows? He may know the difference between jealousy and envy though.

I presume you are implying that my use of the word "jealousy" is incorrect?