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johnfm said:
How many drivers on the DLR?
How long did that take to design & build?
Read the thread and you'll see has been answered more than once.How long did that take to design & build?
But for those who can't be bothered, every DLR train is manned by a passenger service agent who can take control of the train when needed. These staff earn a decent wedge ( just shy of £40k) and if they go on strike then there is no service.
They have also had a few ballots for strike action in the last few years but it seems management have relented each time.
It I also a newish, modern system designed from the outset to be driverless(but not staffless) from the outset. The tube has just celebrated it's 150th birthday for comparison and senior management have even said that certain equipment used everyday(especially signalling) belong in a museum. It is slowly being modernised but it will take billions of pounds and decades to achieve to complete the entire system.
Hackney said:
PoleDriver said:
RichB said:
crankedup said:
... I would rather have a person in charge of the train.
But CU, does that mean you would not use the Docklands Light Railway (DLR)?
legzr1 said:
roachcoach said:
Oh, so they advertise tube driver positions externally then?
Yes.You start at the bottom as platform staff then up you go from there
The point I was making (which you seem to miss) is that LU wouldnt be any different if it didn't operate (in your words) as a closed shop.
If a project manager at Virgin leaves and moves to RBS, you're not going to start them as a coffee boy and work back to PM, are you?
Why could a subway driver from say, Japan, not roll up and apply for a driver position off the street for a driver position?Some minor cross raining and familiarisation is a given on a new start.
legzr1 said:
What I'm suggesting is that the same jobs 'in your real world' out in 'real life' command equal or better packages and are members of the very same unions involved in this industrial action.
Are you still suggesting otherwise?
How will we know? They are subject to the free market, tube driving is not. Rightly or wrongly is not up for debate, at least by me, it is simply the reality.Are you still suggesting otherwise?
RichB said:
Hackney said:
PoleDriver said:
RichB said:
crankedup said:
... I would rather have a person in charge of the train.
But CU, does that mean you would not use the Docklands Light Railway (DLR)?
I have nothing to add to this thread but this
https://youtu.be/MHn-g7T9f9A
defiantly not safe for work or small children
https://youtu.be/MHn-g7T9f9A
defiantly not safe for work or small children
roachcoach said:
Why could a subway driver from say, Japan, not roll up and apply for a driver position off the street for a driver position?Some minor cross raining and familiarisation is a given on a new start.
You fool!!It's because he/she would be far better at it!
We can't be having that can we, no no no comrade.
Best to get them in at the bottom, let them do a s
tty job, agree there job is st and the management are all wkers - you need to join the union brother it's your only way of having some job security. if there weren't a union you wouldn't be on the pay your on, have the holidays etc etc. by the time they get to being a driver they must be seriously fked up.
tty job, agree there job is st and the management are all wkers - you need to join the union brother it's your only way of having some job security. if there weren't a union you wouldn't be on the pay your on, have the holidays etc etc. by the time they get to being a driver they must be seriously fked up. turbobloke said:
RichB said:
Hackney said:
PoleDriver said:
RichB said:
crankedup said:
... I would rather have a person in charge of the train.
But CU, does that mean you would not use the Docklands Light Railway (DLR)?
More discussion of the pay issue http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/08/05/tube-st...
RichB said:
turbobloke said:
RichB said:
Hackney said:
PoleDriver said:
RichB said:
crankedup said:
... I would rather have a person in charge of the train.
But CU, does that mean you would not use the Docklands Light Railway (DLR)?REALIST123 said:
Yes, ASLEF members are just as st as those of the RMT. You delude yourself if you think they're held in any sort of high regard by anyone other than the members.
Try speaking to HR departments and middle managers from the various TOCs and FOCs out there including LUL.t as those of the RMT. You delude yourself if you think they're held in any sort of high regard by anyone other than the members. Or don't and remain blissfully ignorant - you'll find friends in this thread
roachcoach said:
How will we know?
Same job, same hours, same T&Cs, working to the same standards, rules and regulations with oversight from the same branch of RAIB, Network Rail and the ORR in the same location and members of the same unions.Obviously they're going to attract vastly different applicants who will be worth a tenth or ten times the salary...
Rick101 said:
blindswelledrat said:
johnfm said:
53 days annual leave?
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THis cant be true can it?.
57 days leave with double or triple pay for many of those extra days.... Only in a public sector could you get such idiotic modern day T&Cs.
Sadly those who do move on will find resetting to the private sector very very difficult.
With regard to the ERTMS system, I'm involved in the CL97 equipped locos. We do a fair bit of hook n haul over the Cambrians. We have plenty of traction issues but I honestly can't remember a time when ive had a failure of ETCS. Saying that, its very simple section of railway in the middle of nowhere, how well it will work at a busy junction with heavy traffic is another scenario completely.
Ps. 97301 still not certified despite having all the equipment. I've been there two years and seemingly no further forward.
20 years till full automation you say?
Ps. 97301 still not certified despite having all the equipment. I've been there two years and seemingly no further forward.
20 years till full automation you say?
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