Discussion
el stovey said:
Whilst it's amusing and fascinating to watch. I think it's disappointing that the uk is effectively now a one party democracy with no effective opposition. I can't see corbyn managing to unite his party or be an effective voice in parliament.
It's very amusing, but it doesn't stop them being an effective opposition. They can still vote against everything the government try to get through (like the SNP do - bless 'em).If the election is in 2020 he'll be in his 70s. Which is well past retirement age, so what the duplicitous old is doing is literally taking a job opportunity away from one of the poor he claims to represent. As he is right now in fact.
And for what? When the inevitable happens all he's done is deprive someone of £75k for several years. And the person who'd step into that MPs old job.
And it's not like the prick can't afford to retire.
And for what? When the inevitable happens all he's done is deprive someone of £75k for several years. And the person who'd step into that MPs old job.
And it's not like the prick can't afford to retire.
craigjm said:
I think if I was Theresa May I would call an election this afternoon
Unfortunately the criteria of the fixed term parliament dictates she can't unless 2/3 of the house vote for it or there is a succession of votes of no confidence in the government. The days of calling a GE just because it suits are long gone. Smollet said:
craigjm said:
I think if I was Theresa May I would call an election this afternoon
Unfortunately the criteria of the fixed term parliament dictates she can't unless 2/3 of the house vote for it or there is a succession of votes of no confidence in the government. The days of calling a GE just because it suits are long gone. there has to be a disconnect now between the PLP and the Labour Party membership. Most MP's seem to be centre left whilst there can be no doubt that the Party is now a far left leaning Party. How can they possibly work for a man who they utterly despise. The Brexiteers and those who want Grammar schools are labelled as wanting to live back in 50's Britain but Corbyn's policies seem to be much more from that era than the Tories.
The formation of a cabinet is going to be fun.
You only need to watch the interviews around the Conference to see who he is attracting.
The formation of a cabinet is going to be fun.
You only need to watch the interviews around the Conference to see who he is attracting.
RedTrident said:
el stovey said:
techiedave said:
Popcorn time
1042 spoiled votes
Corbyn 313,209
Smith 193,229
ITS CORBY
Corbyn 61.8%
Smith 38.2%
Corby is the leader
Tories in for another 15 to 20 years
Whilst it's amusing and fascinating to watch. I think it's disappointing that the uk is effectively now a one party democracy with no effective opposition. I can't see corbyn managing to unite his party or be an effective voice in parliament. 1042 spoiled votes
Corbyn 313,209
Smith 193,229
ITS CORBY
Corbyn 61.8%
Smith 38.2%
Corby is the leader
Tories in for another 15 to 20 years
I'm actually looking forward to seeing these 172 MPs that tried to oust Corbyn get deselected. It doesn't matter what Corbyn says, the left of the party are going to go after MPs that all too often were placed in safe constituencies by head office. It'll be the English equivalent of the bit of the French Revolution with the guillotine and those citizen court things.
Labour are going to be in this mess while the unions are selecting Brownite leaders. Gordon replacing Tony then Ed beating David , now long time useless Ex back bencher Corbyn. Labour will be in the wilderness and infighting now for years.
The answer is of course to pick someone electable like Dan Jarvis (if he'd do it) or Chuka Umunna or Angela Eagle or even Caroline Fflint. But no, Labour will be slave to the students and unions and keep picking these unelectable leaders and it will be totally their own fault.
johnxjsc1985 said:
there has to be a disconnect now between the PLP and the Labour Party membership. Most MP's seem to be centre left whilst there can be no doubt that the Party is now a far left leaning Party. How can they possibly work for a man who they utterly despise. The Brexiteers and those who want Grammar schools are labelled as wanting to live back in 50's Britain but Corbyn's policies seem to be much more from that era than the Tories.
The formation of a cabinet is going to be fun.
You only need to watch the interviews around the Conference to see who he is attracting.
I think it would be worth actually splitting and forming a centrist left party. At least they'd have BBC support. The formation of a cabinet is going to be fun.
You only need to watch the interviews around the Conference to see who he is attracting.
Derek Smith said:
ThunderGuts said:
Derek Smith said:
I think you miss the point. The method is of no concern. People just want the railways renationalised, or rather, to be more accurate, not contracted to private industry. It is a vote catcher. That's the sole reason for its introduction.
You missed my point, I think it may have been a tad too subtle Corbyn has nothing what so ever behind his pledges. Even those who worship in his shadow cannot explain the 'how'. All you get is 'do it cos of evil rich people'.
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