Jeremy Corbyn

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D-Angle

4,467 posts

242 months

Saturday 24th September 2016
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Smith got a much larger share of the vote than I thought he would. As for the Labour party, it looks like it's nothing but petitions and placards for the foreseeable future.

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

99 months

Saturday 24th September 2016
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My wife asks who the homeless guy is on the telly when he comes on.

chris watton

22,477 posts

260 months

Saturday 24th September 2016
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Well, it looks like the '80's all over again. Woman Tory Prime Minister and a hard left Labour Party that's more than happy to be nothing more than a protest group for the next decade or so.

Shame....

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 24th September 2016
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I'm just hoping Jawknee is on later. I love that guy.

P5BNij

15,875 posts

106 months

Saturday 24th September 2016
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techiedave said:
I'm just hoping Jawknee is on later. I love that guy.
Word on the street in downtown Islington is that he's just nipped out to purchase a box of man sized tissues biggrin

The odds posted above on when Labour will next be in power made me chuckle. Rather a lot!



Don

28,377 posts

284 months

Saturday 24th September 2016
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If everything pans out as is likely the Conservatives will see me out, now. I just don't see a Blairite leader coming forward and making Labour electable again for the foreseeable future.

If May's government remains reasonably centrist I think they are in for a generation, now.

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

99 months

Saturday 24th September 2016
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Don said:
...a Blairite leader coming forward and making Labour electable again for the foreseeable future.
Chuck up Umm Anna?

Lollers!

craigjm

17,955 posts

200 months

Saturday 24th September 2016
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I think if I was Theresa May I would call an election this afternoon

Cobnapint

8,628 posts

151 months

Saturday 24th September 2016
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D-Angle said:
Smith got a much larger share of the vote than I thought he would.
I was expecting something like 75/25 Corbyn.

The actual result shows that Corby isn't as well liked as he and his right-on supporters thing he is.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 24th September 2016
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[quote=Cobnapint]
I was expecting something like 75/25 Corbyn.

The actual result shows that Corby isn't as well liked as he and his right-on supporters thing he is.[


They just need to reach out to other factions of the party and extend the fist of friendship

Cobnapint

8,628 posts

151 months

Saturday 24th September 2016
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el stovey said:
Whilst it's amusing and fascinating to watch. I think it's disappointing that the uk is effectively now a one party democracy with no effective opposition. I can't see corbyn managing to unite his party or be an effective voice in parliament.
It's very amusing, but it doesn't stop them being an effective opposition. They can still vote against everything the government try to get through (like the SNP do - bless 'em).

cayman-black

12,646 posts

216 months

Saturday 24th September 2016
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craigjm said:
I think if I was Theresa May I would call an election this afternoon
That made me laugh.
Seriously though i think UKip should now take Labours place as the second party as Labour really is a joke.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 24th September 2016
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cayman-black said:
That made me laugh.
Seriously though i think UKip should now take Labours place as the second party as Labour really is a joke.
Who'd make up their front bench team?

technodup

7,581 posts

130 months

Saturday 24th September 2016
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If the election is in 2020 he'll be in his 70s. Which is well past retirement age, so what the duplicitous old is doing is literally taking a job opportunity away from one of the poor he claims to represent. As he is right now in fact.

And for what? When the inevitable happens all he's done is deprive someone of £75k for several years. And the person who'd step into that MPs old job.

And it's not like the prick can't afford to retire.

Smollet

10,574 posts

190 months

Saturday 24th September 2016
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craigjm said:
I think if I was Theresa May I would call an election this afternoon
Unfortunately the criteria of the fixed term parliament dictates she can't unless 2/3 of the house vote for it or there is a succession of votes of no confidence in the government. The days of calling a GE just because it suits are long gone.

craigjm

17,955 posts

200 months

Saturday 24th September 2016
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Smollet said:
craigjm said:
I think if I was Theresa May I would call an election this afternoon
Unfortunately the criteria of the fixed term parliament dictates she can't unless 2/3 of the house vote for it or there is a succession of votes of no confidence in the government. The days of calling a GE just because it suits are long gone.
It was tongue in cheek. I am aware of Nick Clegg's small legacy although I am not sure I agree with it

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Saturday 24th September 2016
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there has to be a disconnect now between the PLP and the Labour Party membership. Most MP's seem to be centre left whilst there can be no doubt that the Party is now a far left leaning Party. How can they possibly work for a man who they utterly despise. The Brexiteers and those who want Grammar schools are labelled as wanting to live back in 50's Britain but Corbyn's policies seem to be much more from that era than the Tories.
The formation of a cabinet is going to be fun.
You only need to watch the interviews around the Conference to see who he is attracting.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 24th September 2016
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RedTrident said:
el stovey said:
techiedave said:
Popcorn time
1042 spoiled votes
Corbyn 313,209
Smith 193,229

ITS CORBY
Corbyn 61.8%
Smith 38.2%


Corby is the leader
Tories in for another 15 to 20 years
Whilst it's amusing and fascinating to watch. I think it's disappointing that the uk is effectively now a one party democracy with no effective opposition. I can't see corbyn managing to unite his party or be an effective voice in parliament.
I don't buy that. The party before Corbyn became leader was proven to be unelectable. I see Corbyn as an interim leader and whoever comes next will actually lead a party that is a genuine electable opposition. What we had at the last election was a Labour Party that was just Tory lite.

I'm actually looking forward to seeing these 172 MPs that tried to oust Corbyn get deselected. It doesn't matter what Corbyn says, the left of the party are going to go after MPs that all too often were placed in safe constituencies by head office. It'll be the English equivalent of the bit of the French Revolution with the guillotine and those citizen court things.
Corbyn's has already been an interim leader. His party is in chaos and their popularity is in free fall. How is anyone going to come next? He won't resign even when all the parliamentary labour party want him out. He's a car crash and all that will follow will be a pile of rubble.

Labour are going to be in this mess while the unions are selecting Brownite leaders. Gordon replacing Tony then Ed beating David , now long time useless Ex back bencher Corbyn. Labour will be in the wilderness and infighting now for years.

The answer is of course to pick someone electable like Dan Jarvis (if he'd do it) or Chuka Umunna or Angela Eagle or even Caroline Fflint. But no, Labour will be slave to the students and unions and keep picking these unelectable leaders and it will be totally their own fault.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 24th September 2016
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johnxjsc1985 said:
there has to be a disconnect now between the PLP and the Labour Party membership. Most MP's seem to be centre left whilst there can be no doubt that the Party is now a far left leaning Party. How can they possibly work for a man who they utterly despise. The Brexiteers and those who want Grammar schools are labelled as wanting to live back in 50's Britain but Corbyn's policies seem to be much more from that era than the Tories.
The formation of a cabinet is going to be fun.
You only need to watch the interviews around the Conference to see who he is attracting.
I think it would be worth actually splitting and forming a centrist left party. At least they'd have BBC support. hehe

AstonZagato

12,703 posts

210 months

Saturday 24th September 2016
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Derek Smith said:
ThunderGuts said:
Derek Smith said:
I think you miss the point. The method is of no concern. People just want the railways renationalised, or rather, to be more accurate, not contracted to private industry. It is a vote catcher. That's the sole reason for its introduction.
You missed my point, I think it may have been a tad too subtle wink

Corbyn has nothing what so ever behind his pledges. Even those who worship in his shadow cannot explain the 'how'. All you get is 'do it cos of evil rich people'.
Sorry to miss what you meant. I agree with what you suggest, that's why I mentioned the similar suggestions of the UKIP. People want more. Promise them something vague and it will attract some voters.
Absolutely. If you have some vague, catch-all slogan it will attract the hard of thinking (e.g. Nationalisation is good and will solve everything). It has suckered in JawKnee and Toaster after all. However, once you have to start giving detail, more people realise that it probably won't work. Eventually you implement and it is a clusterfk of titanic proportions and everyone (even the stupid) realises it was a disaster. All except those who benefitted and a few of the adoring disciples.
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