Jeremy Corbyn

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Digga

40,329 posts

283 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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bad company said:
Anybody else think he looks like Catweazle?
Seasonal.


The Wookie

13,950 posts

228 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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Digga said:
bad company said:
Anybody else think he looks like Catweazle?
Seasonal.


turbobloke

103,968 posts

260 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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legzr1 said:
anonymous said:
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Better to dismiss the link in ignorance than admit you may have it wrong.
Desperate personal stuff there.

In the post midenginedcoupe replied to, I was asking a question "was it not the case" rather than staking a claim. As such, the first reply and your bogus suggestion regarding some sort of admission are without foundation.

The clainm I did stake was that wiki is an unreliable source because it's so manipulable by activists. That remains the case, even if it gets something right on occasions.

Keep trying hard but like Corbyn and Labour's similarly dire position it won't do you much good.

Zod

35,295 posts

258 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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anonymous said:
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So unions plus £3 payers - what a combination! The party's owners plus a mix of entryists from the far left and opportunists from the right whose interest was solely in sabotaging Labour.

That makes for a compelling mandate.

KTF

9,806 posts

150 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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zygalski said:
If he looks smart, he's a sold out faker.
If he looks scruffy, he's disrespectful & not leader material.
HTH
Would you not expect someone in his position to make even a little bit of an effort?

Funk

26,286 posts

209 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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The problem is that Corbyn is a 'proper' Labour man and most of the Labour party (including the shadow cabinet) aren't actually true 'Labour' at all - they're more centrist than that. The voters rejected the left-of-centre politics that Miliband brought and heading further left is only going to hurt them all the more.

What they need to do is split. Leave Labour to the unions and other idiots - they'll make some noise but will die eventually and will never see power. A new party holding the more central ground would actually be something of a challenge to the Tories; most of the Labour voters would follow them (rather than Old Labour) and they'd be likely to pinch a large chunk of any disillusioned left-leaning Tories. They would also, finally, be free of the ridiculous union tentacles and control.

However, as they stand Labour are wholly unelectable and long may that continue. The only shame is that a competent Opposition is an important part of the process to provide checks and balances and Labour will - and are - failing at that too.

An utter disaster and a shambles of a party run by and filled with morons.

legzr1

3,848 posts

139 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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turbobloke said:
Desperate personal stuff there.

In the post midenginedcoupe replied to, I was asking a question "was it not the case" rather than staking a claim. As such, the first reply and your bogus suggestion regarding some sort of admission are without foundation.

The clainm I did stake was that wiki is an unreliable source because it's so manipulable by activists. That remains the case, even if it gets something right on occasions.

Keep trying hard but like Corbyn and Labour's similarly dire position it won't do you much good.
Yes, ok.

Still, your 'question' has been answered, it 'wasn't the case' and the link in question had merit - you'd have known this if you'd simply clicked the link.

Desperate?
No.

Personal?
Ha!

Apologies if I've upset your frail sensibilities.


Now, what say another 80+ pages discussing a no-hoper clown from the left without a chance of winning anything?


smile

zygalski

7,759 posts

145 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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KTF said:
zygalski said:
If he looks smart, he's a sold out faker.
If he looks scruffy, he's disrespectful & not leader material.
HTH
Would you not expect someone in his position to make even a little bit of an effort?
.... and then you'd say that he's an untrustworthy hypocrite.

turbobloke

103,968 posts

260 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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legzr1 said:
turbobloke said:
Desperate personal stuff there.

In the post midenginedcoupe replied to, I was asking a question "was it not the case" rather than staking a claim. As such, the first reply and your bogus suggestion regarding some sort of admission are without foundation.

The clainm I did stake was that wiki is an unreliable source because it's so manipulable by activists. That remains the case, even if it gets something right on occasions.

Keep trying hard but like Corbyn and Labour's similarly dire position it won't do you much good.
Yes, ok.

Still, your 'question' has been answered, it 'wasn't the case' and the link in question had merit - you'd have known this if you'd simply clicked the link.

Desperate?
No.

Personal?
Ha!

Apologies if I've upset your frail sensibilities.
Not at all, so no apology needed, but thank you for such high levels of PH cameraderie.

You were simply wrong. In contrast, I asked a question so had nothing to admit or defend.

Simple smile

Corbyn remains a loser 'leading' a Party heading into oblivion and defeat in 2020.


williamp

19,262 posts

273 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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Funk said:
The problem is that Corbyn is a 'proper' Labour man and most of the Labour party (including the shadow cabinet) aren't actually true 'Labour' at all - they're more centrist than that. The voters rejected the left-of-centre politics that Miliband brought and heading further left is only going to hurt them all the more.

What they need to do is split. Leave Labour to the unions and other idiots - they'll make some noise but will die eventually and will never see power. A new party holding the more central ground would actually be something of a challenge to the Tories; most of the Labour voters would follow them (rather than Old Labour) and they'd be likely to pinch a large chunk of any disillusioned left-leaning Tories. They would also, finally, be free of the ridiculous union tentacles and control.

However, as they stand Labour are wholly unelectable and long may that continue. The only shame is that a competent Opposition is an important part of the process to provide checks and balances and Labour will - and are - failing at that too.

An utter disaster and a shambles of a party run by and filled with morons.
Absolutely. A split and a rebrand. Labour could be, maybe the "National Socialists" and the centrists could be the "The Party For Moderate Progress Within the Bounds of the Law " party.


sidicks

25,218 posts

221 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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anonymous said:
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Incorrect - I perfectly well understand that a report explaining how customers are too lazy to switch supplier says nothing about a) customers being ripped off or b) switching suppliers being too difficult.

HTH

turbobloke

103,968 posts

260 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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anonymous said:
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Lefties in trite "continue with failed personal approach" shocker.

coffee

KTF

9,806 posts

150 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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zygalski said:
.... and then you'd say that he's an untrustworthy hypocrite.
I guess its just me that worries about this sort of thing then smile

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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Zod said:
So unions plus £3 payers - what a combination! The party's owners plus a mix of entryists from the far left and opportunists from the right whose interest was solely in sabotaging Labour.

That makes for a compelling mandate.
That's not the way I read it.

He got the undeniable support of the rank and file party membership as well. 49.6% in the first round of voting in a four horse race is pretty compelling.

So he has the backing of the members, the unions and the £3ers.

Just not the MPs nor the party 'machine'

So he'll have to be a political genius to get anywhere.
Which he isn't, so he wont!

turbobloke

103,968 posts

260 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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desolate said:
Zod said:
So unions plus £3 payers - what a combination! The party's owners plus a mix of entryists from the far left and opportunists from the right whose interest was solely in sabotaging Labour.

That makes for a compelling mandate.
That's not the way I read it.

He got the undeniable support of the rank and file party membership as well. 49.6% in the first round of voting in a four horse race is pretty compelling.

So he has the backing of the members, the unions and the £3ers.

Just not the MPs nor the party 'machine'

So he'll have to be a political genius to get anywhere.
Which he isn't, so he wont!
You're generous to the man!

He's way out of his depth, a laughing stock and an embarrassment.

Hoofy

76,372 posts

282 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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Chuckled when I heard Farage asked by Nick Ferrari on LBC: Do you think Jeremy Corbyn will ever become PM?

Farage replied "No!" almost before Ferrari had finished the question. biggrin

TheExcession

11,669 posts

250 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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turbobloke said:
Corbyn remains a loser 'leading' a Party heading into oblivion and defeat in 2020.
And long may it continue Comrade hehe

turbobloke

103,968 posts

260 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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TheExcession said:
turbobloke said:
Corbyn remains a loser 'leading' a Party heading into oblivion and defeat in 2020.
And long may it continue Comrade hehe
да товарищ smile

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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Symbolica said:
I thought this was quite an insightful article into where Corbyn may well fall down, if it happens:

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2015...
I think, Portillo (as ever) gave a very seasoned account of Corbyn on his show last night.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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desolate said:
So he'll have to be a political genius to get anywhere.
Which he isn't, so he wont!
He went to one of the best schools in the country and got 2 E's. 'Not a genius' must be one of the least contentious things ever said about him!

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