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sugerbear said:
JC does appear to have rattled the tories though.
CMD's quite personal attacks on the man at yesterdays conference speaks volumes, when if he really wasn't a threat they would have ignored him.
Say what you want about JC but he does at least give a straight and honest answer even if it isn't the one you want to hear.
Couldn't disagree more. Cameron was very smart to attack him on the grounds he did. Firstly, because he picked his insults carefully based on the issues that resonate most with the voting public and secondly, because he's already announced he won't be leader of the Conservatives come the next election he effectively gets to go after Corbyn as much as he likes without fear of being accused of reducing the 2020 GE to a slanging match. No brainer really.CMD's quite personal attacks on the man at yesterdays conference speaks volumes, when if he really wasn't a threat they would have ignored him.
Say what you want about JC but he does at least give a straight and honest answer even if it isn't the one you want to hear.
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With respect, as the individual denigrating the procurement decisions the burden lies on you. As I've noted it's a burden you very likely can't overcome without knowledge of the decision making process.What I hope I've demonstrated is that achieving value for money in the public sector is a little more complex than you might have thought and that decrying a major procurement decision as wrong, or a vanity project, without having for example recourse to an independent enquiry or similar, is indefensible and, frankly, a bit stupid.
otolith said:
The thing with Boris is that you have to look at who came second. Then shudder, and be thankful the newt-fancier is kept at bay.
Though it's probably also fair to point out that Livingstone did actually get elected as mayor and that, as far as I'm aware, Buckingham Palace wasn't turned into a battered women's refuge and the banking industry didn't all up sticks and head for Hong Kong en masse. London rather carries on being London no matter who's in charge (either locally or nationally).andymadmak said:
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Please clarify what you are accusing Cameron of lying about. Please also clarify what you mean by "misrepresenting what Corbyn said"el stovey said:
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Please clarify what you are accusing Cameron of lying about. Please also clarify what you mean by "misrepresenting what Corbyn said"el stovey said:
andymadmak said:
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Please clarify what you are accusing Cameron of lying about. Please also clarify what you mean by "misrepresenting what Corbyn said"Camerons missrepresentation of EE Corbyns bin Laden comment was pathetic, feeble and embarrasing. It doesn't change the fact that EE is a dribbling halfwit. He could well be right about some of the things he lists as being tragic but ObL missing his court date can hardly be listed alongside the deaths of tens of thousands of innocents on 9/11 and in Iraq as a tragedy.
http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid75...
http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid75...
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otolith said:
The thing with Boris is that you have to look at who came second. Then shudder, and be thankful the newt-fancier is kept at bay.
Though it's probably also fair to point out that Livingstone did actually get elected as mayor and that, as far as I'm aware, Buckingham Palace wasn't turned into a battered women's refuge and the banking industry didn't all up sticks and head for Hong Kong en masse. London rather carries on being London no matter who's in charge (either locally or nationally).otolith said:
Londoners don't seem to want him back.
I supsect that's partly down to him returning to the Labour fold after standing as an independant. I voted for him the first time as he seemed like the better candidate to me (he had essentially done the job before). He lost my vote when he went back to Labour.Zod said:
How did he lie or misrepresent Corbyn? It looked to me to be fairly based on what Corbyn has said.
Interview linked above. EE clearly (IMO) meant the fact he wasn't put on trial was the tragedy. There is some logic to being seen to be the good guys but its hardly a tragedy. Either way Camerons speech writter needs the sack.fblm said:
Zod said:
How did he lie or misrepresent Corbyn? It looked to me to be fairly based on what Corbyn has said.
Interview linked above. EE clearly (IMO) meant the fact he wasn't put on trial was the tragedy. There is some logic to being seen to be the good guys but its hardly a tragedy. Either way Camerons speech writter needs the sack.Fittster said:
Would all those attacking Corbyn get down on one knee if they met the queen?
You'd look pretty stupid if you did. No one else does. If I were being sworn in to the privy council then yes. If you're going to swear to 'almighty god' that you'll be a 'faithful servant of the queen' that you'll 'bear faith and allegiance to the queens majesty' and that you'll 'in all things faithfully and truthfully declare your mind and opinion' then just get down on one knee and suck it up ffs!Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff