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anonymous said:
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Yes it's going marvellously isn't it. Harmony and unity personified. I've got to admit I'm impressed that Corbo and McDonnell have done what I thought was impossible; find a way of rebelling against their own fiscal policy! http://order-order.com/2015/10/12/inside-the-plp-i...
Two weeks ago McDonnell said "We will back the Fiscal Charter". Now he says "We won't back the fiscal Charter". So tell us; does Labour back it or not? How does this "total fking shambles" (the exact word of one Labour MP last night) accord with the Labour's new strapline of "Straight Talking. Honest Politics"?
Then there's Diane Abbott's hilarious car crash interview this morning on Today...
http://order-order.com/#:naL4IMO7JxXA1A
Looks like plenty of Labour MPs will show Corbachev the same levels of loyalty he extended to Kinnock, Smith, Blair, Brown, Millipede E and Harman. Explain why they shouldn't.
You have one hour, use both sides of the paper...
TL/DR. Has anyone made the Overton Window point yet?
Overton window - region of views acceptable to most voters. What was once radical can become mainstream, and all that. Labour moves to left, centre ground moves gently leftward - arguably already apparent after Miliband era with Osborne adopting some Blairish tropes. Thatcher arguably moved the Overton window and pulled Labour gently rightwards - hence Blair her fave son.
Overton window - region of views acceptable to most voters. What was once radical can become mainstream, and all that. Labour moves to left, centre ground moves gently leftward - arguably already apparent after Miliband era with Osborne adopting some Blairish tropes. Thatcher arguably moved the Overton window and pulled Labour gently rightwards - hence Blair her fave son.
hornetrider said:
PMQs about to start. Apparently he's crowd sourced the fking questions...again.
Looking forward to hearing him get ripped to shreds over the economy u-turn and general party chaos.
Yeah, I dont get the 'this question from Matthew' as if it's Saturday morning kids TV with one direction being offered questions from the viewers by a presenter. Looking forward to hearing him get ripped to shreds over the economy u-turn and general party chaos.
It's an interesting way to bring conversation to the floor indirectly, but I think he'd be better just saying 'we have a question about this' Too much going around the houses and fluff. I think this guy just wants to sit in an office and do some admin about counting bins and stuff.
hornetrider said:
PMQs about to start. Apparently he's crowd sourced the fking questions...again.
Looking forward to hearing him get ripped to shreds over the economy u-turn and general party chaos.
Of course, what a giggle eh? I mean, actually having to consider questions by normal hard working people who wonder when they will feel the benefits of our 'booming economy'. Looking forward to hearing him get ripped to shreds over the economy u-turn and general party chaos.
killingjoker said:
Of course, what a giggle eh? I mean, actually having to consider questions by normal hard working people who wonder when they will feel the benefits of our 'booming economy'.
Normal hard working people deserve someone competent to represent them in the house of commons, not a local radio DJ who reads out a couple of cards and then hands over to Dianne for the traffic. killingjoker said:
hornetrider said:
PMQs about to start. Apparently he's crowd sourced the fking questions...again.
Looking forward to hearing him get ripped to shreds over the economy u-turn and general party chaos.
Of course, what a giggle eh? I mean, actually having to consider questions by normal hard working people who wonder when they will feel the benefits of our 'booming economy'. Looking forward to hearing him get ripped to shreds over the economy u-turn and general party chaos.
TBH, if this is how PMQ's will go they could dispense with the cost of several hundred very expensive MPs, get the public to submit the questions through a website and have Cameron read them off a page himself. Corbyn's a waste of oxygen and long may he stay in charge of the Labour party!
P.S. Anyone hear Diane Abbott's appalling appearance on the Today programme? She makes my skin crawl and her devotion to the (st) party line was comical: http://order-order.com/2015/10/13/diane-abbott-lau...
Justayellowbadge said:
killingjoker said:
Of course, what a giggle eh? I mean, actually having to consider questions by normal hard working people who wonder when they will feel the benefits of our 'booming economy'.
Normal hard working people deserve someone competent to represent them in the house of commons, not a local radio DJ who reads out a couple of cards and then hands over to Dianne for the traffic. Conservative back benchers laughing at "Mathews questions" unfortunately just look like out of touch MPs scoffing at the general public.
Edited by el stovey on Wednesday 14th October 13:06
P.S. Anyone hear Diane Abbott's appalling appearance on the Today programme? She makes my skin crawl and her devotion to the (st) party line was comical: http://order-order.com/2015/10/13/diane-abbott-lau...
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Yes it was truly embarrassing, how she got into Cambridge is amazing, perhaps she went up there as a cleaner and got lucky!!!
Funk said:
P.S. Anyone hear Diane Abbott's appalling appearance on the Today programme? She makes my skin crawl and her devotion to the (st) party line was comical: http://order-order.com/2015/10/13/diane-abbott-lau...
number 46 said:
Yes it was truly embarrassing, how she got into Cambridge is amazing, perhaps she went up there as a cleaner and got lucky!!!
She's certainly a special case - I always assumed it was to meet some quota.el stovey said:
Conservative back benchers laughing at "Mathews questions" unfortunately just look like out of touch MPs scoffing at the general public.
Apparently, politics is now a game of perception - wonder how deep the regret will be when the braying tts watch the footage and realise what utter morons they sound.Edited by el stovey on Wednesday 14th October 13:06
Asterix said:
Funk said:
P.S. Anyone hear Diane Abbott's appalling appearance on the Today programme? She makes my skin crawl and her devotion to the (st) party line was comical: http://order-order.com/2015/10/13/diane-abbott-lau...
number 46 said:
Yes it was truly embarrassing, how she got into Cambridge is amazing, perhaps she went up there as a cleaner and got lucky!!!
She's certainly a special case - I always assumed it was to meet some quota.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff