Jeremy Corbyn

[anonymous-user]

Breadvan72 said:

I am not sure if JC has figured out what to say on that subject yet.

I think he knows what he wants to say, just not what the party will let him say.

He's buggered either way:

if he follows the radical agenda the PLP will revolt
If he doesn't follow the radical agenda, his grass roots support will be in uproar.

He may as well go down fighting for his actual beliefs as he is pretty rubbish at compromise.

[anonymous-user]

He is rubbish at politics, in other words.

[anonymous-user]

Breadvan72 said:

He is rubbish at politics, in other words.

Which is a bit of a disadvantage if you want to be anything other than a back bench MP.


I thought he could make a fist of it if he picked 3 headline policies such as Nationalise rail, "People's QE" and changing the internal market in the NHS and then caved on the rest.

But as he can't even handle the minor st he has no chance.

[technodup]

crankedup said:

Currently the PM is having an easy ride, I hope that will not continue.

It's Corbyn that's getting an easy ride. He's using this Mary from Manchester pish to deflect his inadequacies onto the public. Cameron has more than enough ammunition to rip him a new ahole whenever he wants but is obviously keeping his powder dry.

I'd suggest a question from Jill of Warrington: one of my children was killed in the IRA attack on Warrington- does the Right Honourable gentleman believe the bombing of innocent children in the UK justified to try to bring about a united Ireland? And does he believe the people of Warrington, London, Omagh, Manchester, Aldershot et al will ever forget his support for IRA/Sinn Fein?

Or does the the leader opposite believe the IRA were justified in their murder of Sir Anthony Berry MP, or their failed attempt to kill former Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher?

I can't see many people, certainly older ones in the affected towns entertaining the idea of voting for someone who chummed along with Gerry and Martin at the time.

[Andy Zarse]

crankedup said:

Andy Zarse said:

crankedup said:

Housing in crisis...

Crisis crisis crisis!

Why is every socieltal problem, whether great or small, referred to by the Left as a "crisis"? Take your pick from housing/homelessness/NHS/pensions/unemployment/fuel poverty/you-name-it, it's in perpetual crisis.

And why does the solution always appears to be more state intervention and "an end to vicious Tory austerity"?

Do these people not realise the overuse and abuse of such stock words has led to their diminution, or that the greater population have become fatigued of such hackneyed phrases?

So you believe that the housing status within the U.K. especially southern England is just fine? Plenty of stock at affordable prices for buying privately for those on the average wage?
Plenty of high quality private rented accommodation that are affordable to the average family or individuals?


Lets pick an alternative word to crisis, how about catastrophic.

Catastophic? Crisis?

Who knows, so I thought I'd google the current figures... and you'll never guess what, the very first item on the list was from an organisation called Crisis!



http://www.crisis.org.uk

Did you know people in temporary accommodation are "homeless"? I didn't. I thought it meant not having any home, out on the streets and under an old tarpaulin sort of thing. But not a bit of it.

Anyway, I have eventually gleaned the annual number of homeless households in England peaked in 2003-04 at 135,420 before falling to a low of 40,020 in 2009-10. In 2014-15 there were 54,430 homeless households, which was 60 per cent below the 2003-04 peak.

Now when you consider that is about 0.00183% of all households, and then factor in the massive levels of recent migration, I don't think any reasonable person would term the housing situation as either a crisis or catastrophic. I'm certainly not going to say the situation is ideal, and clearly we need a huge house building program. Also, I've been hugely critical of the way the Tories have conducted the housing market. But you have to be on another bloody planet to think it's the crisis the Left loves to ascribe.

[anonymous-user]

The more I see the more I wonder if Corbyn's not a Tory plant, tasked with destroying labour from within. Even if he isn't, he's doing g a good job for them.

[iphonedyou]

crankedup said:

So you believe that the housing status within the U.K. especially southern England is just fine? Plenty of stock at affordable prices for buying privately for those on the average wage?
Plenty of high quality private rented accommodation that are affordable to the average family or individuals?


Lets pick an alternative word to crisis, how about catastrophic.

Yes, of course that's what he means. Because to disagree with use of the term 'crisis' must mean he thinks we're living in some sort of property utopia as you intimate above.

Honestly, you don't help yourself at all crankedup.

[Andy Zarse]

Gargamel said:

truck71 said:

If it wasn't so serious it would be total comedy. It's a national embarrassment.

Next up,

Jeremy goes to the State Banquet for The Chinese Prime Minister.

Jeremy's wife declines the invite
Jezbolah can't decide if formal White Tie is something he is into
Jez we can, also plans to raise Human Rights Abuses over the after eights

Next week Jez redefine the Meme for "going full retard"

You can just imagine poor old Jezza, seated in the Grand Ballroom, feeling like a fish out of water dressed in his best Farrah slacks and ill-fitting polyester sports jacket with biros in his breast pocket, having a pop at the white tie-wearing President Xi Jinping over a pudding of tinned lychees and Carnation...

Why should anyone take lectures on human rights from Corbyn. He was a massive fan of East Germany, and who is to say he wouldn't want to institute a similar system here?

You can imagine Pres Xi's translator replying, "Ah-so Honourlable Jelemy, what about human lights lecord of your fliends in Hezborrah?" as the ballroom falls into an embarrassed silence whilst the inscrutable premier looks on without so much as blinking and Her Majesty stares stony faced over the top of her specs.

[jmorgan]

Breadvan72 said:

Farage, you say?

Yeah, get them up on the screen side by side and squint a bit, the LibDem is a few pints younger but the similarities are there. We never see them in the same room together.....

[anonymous-user]

FPWM.

I cannot even recall the name of the new Lib Dem guy. Does he have one?

[Johnnytheboy]

Breadvan72 said:

FPWM.

I cannot even recall the name of the new Lib Dem guy. Does he have one?

If you can't, it should take you long to figure it out, by a simple process of elimination.

[crankedup]

Andy Zarse said:

crankedup said:

Andy Zarse said:

crankedup said:

Housing in crisis...

Crisis crisis crisis!

Why is every socieltal problem, whether great or small, referred to by the Left as a "crisis"? Take your pick from housing/homelessness/NHS/pensions/unemployment/fuel poverty/you-name-it, it's in perpetual crisis.

And why does the solution always appears to be more state intervention and "an end to vicious Tory austerity"?

Do these people not realise the overuse and abuse of such stock words has led to their diminution, or that the greater population have become fatigued of such hackneyed phrases?

So you believe that the housing status within the U.K. especially southern England is just fine? Plenty of stock at affordable prices for buying privately for those on the average wage?
Plenty of high quality private rented accommodation that are affordable to the average family or individuals?


Lets pick an alternative word to crisis, how about catastrophic.

Catastophic? Crisis?

Who knows, so I thought I'd google the current figures... and you'll never guess what, the very first item on the list was from an organisation called Crisis!



http://www.crisis.org.uk

Did you know people in temporary accommodation are "homeless"? I didn't. I thought it meant not having any home, out on the streets and under an old tarpaulin sort of thing. But not a bit of it.

Anyway, I have eventually gleaned the annual number of homeless households in England peaked in 2003-04 at 135,420 before falling to a low of 40,020 in 2009-10. In 2014-15 there were 54,430 homeless households, which was 60 per cent below the 2003-04 peak.

Now when you consider that is about 0.00183% of all households, and then factor in the massive levels of recent migration, I don't think any reasonable person would term the housing situation as either a crisis or catastrophic. I'm certainly not going to say the situation is ideal, and clearly we need a huge house building program. Also, I've been hugely critical of the way the Tories have conducted the housing market. But you have to be on another bloody planet to think it's the crisis the Left loves to ascribe.

Tell that to those who cannot afford to buy over-priced houses, or pay extortionate rents, and unable to access Social housing owing to shortages. Plenty of young professionals are in this boat and live with Mum and Dad, average age is still rising regards this group of 'stay at homes' its now 35 years.
The general overall picture of housing in the U.K. is a complete disaster.

[Axionknight]

Johnnytheboy said:

Breadvan72 said:

FPWM.

I cannot even recall the name of the new Lib Dem guy. Does he have one?

If you can't, it should take you long to figure it out, by a simple process of elimination.

Tim Farron.

[crankedup]

iphonedyou said:

crankedup said:

So you believe that the housing status within the U.K. especially southern England is just fine? Plenty of stock at affordable prices for buying privately for those on the average wage?
Plenty of high quality private rented accommodation that are affordable to the average family or individuals?


Lets pick an alternative word to crisis, how about catastrophic.

Yes, of course that's what he means. Because to disagree with use of the term 'crisis' must mean he thinks we're living in some sort of property utopia as you intimate above.

Honestly, you don't help yourself at all crankedup.

The other points I made in the post have been expertly swerved around by Andy, its all part of housing don't yer know!

[Johnnytheboy]

Axionknight said:

Johnnytheboy said:

Breadvan72 said:

FPWM.

I cannot even recall the name of the new Lib Dem guy. Does he have one?

If you can't, it should take you long to figure it out, by a simple process of elimination.

Tim Farron.

How many guesses did that take?

It's less than nine I assume.

[NRS]

crankedup said:

Tell that to those who cannot afford to buy over-priced houses, or pay extortionate rents, and unable to access Social housing owing to shortages. Plenty of young professionals are in this boat and live with Mum and Dad, average age is still rising regards this group of 'stay at homes' its now 35 years.
The general overall picture of housing in the U.K. is a complete disaster.

What's your solution for it then?

[RichB]

crankedup said:

Tell that to those who cannot afford to buy over-priced houses...

When you say overpriced define what you mean. To me something is worth what someone will pay for it. I'm guessing you mean they are overpriced because some people cannot afford them but I'll let you answer that. What's the solution, perhaps you would have the government make a sizeable contribution to the sale price because if I can get someone to pay me over 3/4 million for my property why should I sell it for less? I'd be happy to sell at £500k with £250k govt. top-up though. Thoughts?

[Sway]

crankedup said:

Tell that to those who cannot afford to buy over-priced houses, or pay extortionate rents, and unable to access Social housing owing to shortages. Plenty of young professionals are in this boat and live with Mum and Dad, average age is still rising regards this group of 'stay at homes' its now 35 years.
The general overall picture of housing in the U.K. is a complete disaster.

Name a top five Worldwide city (as London is) that has a better percentage of 'affordable' houses within similar travel times to the centre?

It's mental, yes. Whether New York, Singapore, Tokyo or London if a significant proportion of the World would like to live there, costs are always going to be very high.

[Getragdogleg]

Sway said:

crankedup said:

Tell that to those who cannot afford to buy over-priced houses, or pay extortionate rents, and unable to access Social housing owing to shortages. Plenty of young professionals are in this boat and live with Mum and Dad, average age is still rising regards this group of 'stay at homes' its now 35 years.
The general overall picture of housing in the U.K. is a complete disaster.

Name a top five Worldwide city (as London is) that has a better percentage of 'affordable' houses within similar travel times to the centre?

It's mental, yes. Whether New York, Singapore, Tokyo or London if a significant proportion of the World would like to live there, costs are always going to be very high.

Sway said:

crankedup said:

Tell that to those who cannot afford to buy over-priced houses, or pay extortionate rents, and unable to access Social housing owing to shortages. Plenty of young professionals are in this boat and live with Mum and Dad, average age is still rising regards this group of 'stay at homes' its now 35 years.
The general overall picture of housing in the U.K. is a complete disaster.

Name a top five Worldwide city (as London is) that has a better percentage of 'affordable' houses within similar travel times to the centre?

It's mental, yes. Whether New York, Singapore, Tokyo or London if a significant proportion of the World would like to live there, costs are always going to be very high.

Lots of cheap housing in England, just in places its not fashionable or desirable to live but if you are in need of a place and want to start with minimal outlay and get on the ladder then if you put effort into it and are not picky about what work you do then its a way into the big wide world.

A quick example, is Stanley County Durham,

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/find....

[Welshbeef]

Getragdogleg said:

Lots of cheap housing in England, just in places its not fashionable or desirable to live but if you are in need of a place and want to start with minimal outlay and get on the ladder then if you put effort into it and are not picky about what work you do then its a way into the big wide world.

A quick example, is Stanley County Durham,

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/find....

Sad truth is they are shot holes with crime and likely antisocial behaviour.



Didn't some streets in Newcastly a decade ago sell each house for £0.50. Total dump BUT if you buy the entire area demolish the lot build one big pad and huge grounds with nothing round you it's tempting.