Discussion
Breadvan72 said:
lauda said:
...It's just a noisy minority doing a very good job of making their voice heard ...
I would add that the Corbyn twittertwits are mainly making their voice heard by themselves. It's the politics of self indulgence. A bit like the typical N,P&L echo chamber thread, but rather more nationally significant.The worst PH echo chamber threads also have an advantage of making far more sense than Corbyn twitterati and UK PHers may well outnumber Corbynista Onanista.
PS Labour lost (yay) and don't have much hope for another 10 years (yay) get your echo detector retuned to avoid reminders
though from your recent post describing the Cameroon/Gideon flavour of Conservatism less than harshly, you may not be overly bovvered.It is touching that you feel sufficiently patriotic to spring to the defence of N,P&L as the chamber of diversely opinioned Enlightenment, tb.
I slept through most of election night, as the pundits were unusually dull this year, but I did notice the result. I would not have expected any of the other dunderheads on offer instead of Corbyn to do other than lose in 2020, but the problem with Corbyn is that he may keep any party other than the Tories out of power for far more than ten years, and I don't see how that can be a good thing. As others have noted, the real idiot here is Miliband, who as well as being hopeless as leader did the stupid three quid thing.
I slept through most of election night, as the pundits were unusually dull this year, but I did notice the result. I would not have expected any of the other dunderheads on offer instead of Corbyn to do other than lose in 2020, but the problem with Corbyn is that he may keep any party other than the Tories out of power for far more than ten years, and I don't see how that can be a good thing. As others have noted, the real idiot here is Miliband, who as well as being hopeless as leader did the stupid three quid thing.
Breadvan72 said:
It is touching that you feel sufficiently patriotic to spring to the defence of N,P&L as the chamber of diversely opinioned Enlightenment, tb.
Springing to a defence...or telling it as it is
Breadvan72 said:
I slept through most of election night, as the pundits were unusually dull this year, but I did notice the result. I would not have expected any of the other dunderheads on offer instead of Corbyn to do other than lose in 2020, but the problem with Corbyn is that he may keep any party other than the Tories out of power for far more than ten years, and I don't see how that can be a good thing.
It depends on the quality of the job being done by the Tories. Change for the sake of it can bring the likes of Blair, Brown and Miliband. Corbyn has broken the mould, and the Party as it was, more than likely.Breadvan72 said:
As others have noted, the real idiot here is Miliband, who as well as being hopeless as leader did the stupid three quid thing.
Timmy40 said:
Blimey that's strong stuff coming from the Guardian. I wonder if a large chunk of the PLP will split away and form a new party with a hope of organising some kind of effective campaign machinery by 2020.
They could form a party called New Labour, it would hold so much respect for the voters, after all it was not them who allowed this dunderhead to take them over after f
king up the country...........oh waitf
kwits all Timmy40 said:
Blimey that's strong stuff coming from the Guardian.
Overall yes but this is comedy gold:"...leaving Labour with the 68% it has retained from May. By that point it will have so alienated itself from public opinion as to be considered unelectable by those voters who would quite like a bit of economic security and competence..."
Those people will vote Conservative.
Labour, old new or inbetweeny, is comically economically illiterate.
turbobloke said:
deadslow said:
The Hypno-Toad said:
like most left wingers a bully at heart.
that's quite funny seeing as how the tory party is embroiled in a bullying scandal and the chairman is likely to be invited to go.Short memory?
McPoison
Alastair Bullyboy
Campbell Worse than McPoison
The Labour Party Is A Deluded Bullying Cult says Labour MP
Liz Kendall Blasts Vitriolic Bullying in Labour Party
Labour Politicians Bullied by Corbyn Allies
Furious Labour MPs Accuse Diane Abbott of Bullying
Corbyn will be Significantly Undermined if he Fails to Get a Grip on Corbynista Bullies
Corbyn makes for a fitting close after mentions of silly cults.
Derek Smith said:
I reckon there must be a next. A leader who is so out of step with his mps is virtually unique. Even Thatcher, at the time she was most unpopular, had conditional support of the tories in power. The right were a wee bit anti, but that was in her favour for most of the others. There was talk at the time of her being ousted but circumstances dictated otherwise.
He's turned the volume up a tad from IDs. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iain_Duncan_Smith#Pr...
Timmy40 said:
Spot on. Corbyn was elected largely by a tiwttermob drawn from the fringe far left of society. 'Just' 180k people joined the party, swelling it's membership to 370k.
We are repeatedly told Corbyn has the overwhelming support of the membership at 60%, but taking ( a valid IMO ) assumption that the 180k strong twitter mob joined to vote Corbyn, if you strip that 180k out, Corbyns share of the vote <Milibrains disastrous changes, falls from 60% to 20%.
The fact is that without the services of a twittermob and millibrains poorly thought of changes Corbyn would never have been able to cease power.
Corbyn didn't need the £3-ers.We are repeatedly told Corbyn has the overwhelming support of the membership at 60%, but taking ( a valid IMO ) assumption that the 180k strong twitter mob joined to vote Corbyn, if you strip that 180k out, Corbyns share of the vote <Milibrains disastrous changes, falls from 60% to 20%.
The fact is that without the services of a twittermob and millibrains poorly thought of changes Corbyn would never have been able to cease power.
"However, Corbyn was elected Labour Party Leader in a landslide victory on 12 September 2015, having received 59.5% of first-preference votes thereby winning the first round of voting; it has been calculated that Corbyn would still have won in the first round with 51% of votes, even without "£3 registered supporters", having gained the support of 49.6% of full members and 57.6% of affiliated (Trade Union) supporters."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Corbyn#Leader...
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