Jeremy Corbyn

[technodup]

XJ40 said:

He should have never had the chance at this, Labour have really messed up with letting three quid party member elect the leader, they're going to have to change that st to PLP only.

There's only one flaw in that proposition... it was the PLP who nominated him for the ballot in the first place.

If it wasn't for idiots like Beckett and Thornberry 'lending' him their votes 'to have a debate' then the £3ers would have only had the choice of Burnham, Cooper or Kendall, and so couldn't have caused any real damage.

[Stickyfinger]

and he would of won anyway.....so blame the Party not the £3 + Popcorn voters.

[mybrainhurts]

Stickyfinger said:

and he would of won anyway.....so blame congratulate the Party not the £3 + Popcorn voters.

Fixed that for you...

[Stickyfinger]

mybrainhurts said:

Fixed that for you...

thanks, it needed it

[johnxjsc1985]

He is in full flow right now .

[tim0409]

johnxjsc1985 said:

He is in full flow right now .

I'm watching it and I can't help but feeling he is out of his depth. Tom Watson and Hillary Benn look like they would rather be somewhere else.

[XJ40]

technodup said:

XJ40 said:

He should have never had the chance at this, Labour have really messed up with letting three quid party member elect the leader, they're going to have to change that st to PLP only.

There's only one flaw in that proposition... it was the PLP who nominated him for the ballot in the first place.

If it wasn't for idiots like Beckett and Thornberry 'lending' him their votes 'to have a debate' then the £3ers would have only had the choice of Burnham, Cooper or Kendall, and so couldn't have caused any real damage.

Yes very true. They didn't think he had a chance though did they, even Corbyn himself didn't think so. It'll be a lesson learnt the hard way..

[johnxjsc1985]

tim0409 said:

I'm watching it and I can't help but feeling he is out of his depth. Tom Watson and Hillary Benn look like they would rather be somewhere else.

he could be there for hours he likes to hear his own voice.

[essayer]

tim0409 said:

I'm watching it and I can't help but feeling he is out of his depth. Tom Watson and Hillary Benn look like they would rather be somewhere else.

The constant requests to give way are putting him off a bit. Bercow should be clamping down on it.

e: Superb timing from Rees-Mogg

[johnxjsc1985]

keep on thinking a long pole with a hook on it will emerge from his right and take him off.

[timlongs]

essayer said:

tim0409 said:

I'm watching it and I can't help but feeling he is out of his depth. Tom Watson and Hillary Benn look like they would rather be somewhere else.

The constant requests to give way are putting him off a bit. Bercow should be clamping down on it.

Agreed, 157 MPs want to make speeches today, he's trying to get through it so the debate can continue. Ridiculous that we're having a 1 day debate on such a serious issue when so many want to speak.

[johnxjsc1985]

timlongs said:

Agreed, 157 MPs want to make speeches today, he's trying to get through it so the debate can continue. Ridiculous that we're having a 1 day debate on such a serious issue when so many want to speak.

what is it they don't know now that another day of talking will change. They have made up their mind which way they will vote just get on with it.Will another day change Corbyns or Camerons mind?.

[drivin_me_nuts]

Nope. Not a chance.

The problem that Corbyn has, is that not very few actually believe that jaw-jaw will actually make any difference at all to those hell bent on the destruction of the western world. for them, each day of talk is a day more they consolidate their resources.

[mybrainhurts]

johnxjsc1985 said:

keep on thinking a long pole with a hook on it will emerge from his right and take him off put 240 volts through him.

No harm intended, you understand, just for fun. We must preserve him, he's doing a grand job.

[0000]

I'd suggest sending Corbyn to negotiate his preferred political settlement with IS but I think I'd rather he stayed a little longer.

[drivin_me_nuts]

it all makes for sobering listening. The more you hear the more you realise 9as if you didn't know before) what an extraordinary cluster-fk the middle east really is.

[Einion Yrth]

mybrainhurts said:

Stickyfinger said:

and he would of have won anyway.....so blame congratulate the Party not the £3 + Popcorn voters.

Fixed that for you...

Fixed it for both of you.

[Foliage]

drivin_me_nuts said:

it all makes for sobering listening. The more you hear the more you realise 9as if you didn't know before) what an extraordinary cluster-fk the middle east really is.

I just see them like directors of a company, no idea what's really going on at the nitty gritty end, and the middle managers just tell them what they think they want to hear.

[mybrainhurts]

Einion Yrth said:

mybrainhurts said:

Stickyfinger said:

and he would of have won anyway.....so blame congratulate the Party not the £3 + Popcorn voters.

Fixed that for you...

Fixed it for both of you.

BOTH of us? How very dare you...?

[drivin_me_nuts]

Foliage said:

drivin_me_nuts said:

it all makes for sobering listening. The more you hear the more you realise 9as if you didn't know before) what an extraordinary cluster-fk the middle east really is.

I just see them like directors of a company, no idea what's really going on at the nitty gritty end, and the middle managers just tell them what they think they want to hear.

That's a pretty good description of where they are at.