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gruffalo said:
Stella Creasy voted in favour of going into Syria.
What tweets did she send?
Sorry for the Wail link...What tweets did she send?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3343572/St...
Saw him outside Radio 2 in the week in a media scrum. His 'handlers' were well on top of him.
Got the distinct feeling that they didn't trust him not to say or do anything (even more) stupid.
He was signing autographs, but when somebody asked a question (didn't hear what) they immediately pulled him aside, said that he wasn't there to answer
their questions and he was bundled into the car and away.
I have seen many many politicians and PMs over the years - but I've never seen such obvious media protection.
All others have either answered or ignored reporters. Even saint Tony was trusted to walk to the car on his own....
Got the distinct feeling that they didn't trust him not to say or do anything (even more) stupid.
He was signing autographs, but when somebody asked a question (didn't hear what) they immediately pulled him aside, said that he wasn't there to answer
their questions and he was bundled into the car and away.
I have seen many many politicians and PMs over the years - but I've never seen such obvious media protection.
All others have either answered or ignored reporters. Even saint Tony was trusted to walk to the car on his own....
Nick Robinson on R4 this morning says Stella Creasy had protestors outside her house, as well as the more familiar Twitter abuse.
Reading about the Stop the War Coalition and it's aims we're bumping into student agit-prop stuff again, but now they feel they've got their man at the table with the big boys so, obviously, their voice must be heard.
Brother Corbyn does seem to attract/encourage a lot of this type of aggro. How is it a new kind of (non personal) politics?
Edited name of presenter - brain fade...
Reading about the Stop the War Coalition and it's aims we're bumping into student agit-prop stuff again, but now they feel they've got their man at the table with the big boys so, obviously, their voice must be heard.
Brother Corbyn does seem to attract/encourage a lot of this type of aggro. How is it a new kind of (non personal) politics?
Edited name of presenter - brain fade...
Edited by The Don of Croy on Thursday 3rd December 09:54
The bottom line is that Corbyn, regardless of whether he is a 'decent man', has gone from having little influence to having lots of influence and that's when being an idealist, which he undoubtedly is, creates problems
He has gone from being a preacher saying lots of things that make great soundbites to actually being in a position to influence policy and suddenly, he has to be practical. That is at the route of all his problems because he has never had to be commercial or practical before. With every month that passes those issues will become more and more prevalent until his position becomes untenable
He has gone from being a preacher saying lots of things that make great soundbites to actually being in a position to influence policy and suddenly, he has to be practical. That is at the route of all his problems because he has never had to be commercial or practical before. With every month that passes those issues will become more and more prevalent until his position becomes untenable
turbobloke said:
The Don of Croy said:
Norm Robinson on R4 this morning says Stella Creasy had protestors outside her house, as well as the more familiar Twitter abuse.
That would be the tolerant Left at work.johnxjsc1985 said:
turbobloke said:
That would be the tolerant Left at work.
New democratic politics.If you're going to attempt the 'I bet you wouldn't go out there and fight, would you? Huh?' approach, aiming it at a decorated special forces veteran kinda makes you look like a fking idiot.
Justayellowbadge said:
Particularly enjoyed the twitter trolling of 'yellow' 'warmonger' Dan Jarvis.
If you're going to attempt the 'I bet you wouldn't go out there and fight, would you? Huh?' approach, aiming it at a decorated special forces veteran kinda makes you look like a fking idiot.
Quite, it shows the imbecilic level these individuals are playing on.If you're going to attempt the 'I bet you wouldn't go out there and fight, would you? Huh?' approach, aiming it at a decorated special forces veteran kinda makes you look like a fking idiot.
Justayellowbadge said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
turbobloke said:
That would be the tolerant Left at work.
New democratic politics.If you're going to attempt the 'I bet you wouldn't go out there and fight, would you? Huh?' approach, aiming it at a decorated special forces veteran kinda makes you look like a fking idiot.
Corbyn is a wacko he has opinions and views that would have been relevant in the 60's as long as you were stoned out of your mind and he has given a voice to all the loony lefties.
The longer he hangs around the more the Labour party will be damaged it is in tatters at the moment and he isn't about to bring it back to being an effective opposition any time soon
The longer he hangs around the more the Labour party will be damaged it is in tatters at the moment and he isn't about to bring it back to being an effective opposition any time soon
Digga said:
t is repugnantly anti-democratic and uncivilised, but TBF Corbyn has already spoken out on the matter and denounced the trolls and bullies: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/dec/02/ai...
Nice article.johnxjsc1985 said:
Corbyn is a wacko he has opinions and views that would have been relevant in the 60's as long as you were stoned out of your mind and he has given a voice to all the loony lefties.
The longer he hangs around the more the Labour party will be damaged it is in tatters at the moment and he isn't about to bring it back to being an effective opposition any time soon
The future?The longer he hangs around the more the Labour party will be damaged it is in tatters at the moment and he isn't about to bring it back to being an effective opposition any time soon
http://new.spectator.co.uk/2015/12/after-jeremy-co...
article said:
There are two distinct anti-Corbyn strategies being touted at the moment. The first is to make doing the job so difficult for him that he resigns. But there are no signs that Corbyn intends to walk away. Ever since party conference, he has been rather enjoying himself.
The other strategy is more high-risk. It is to force him out now and gamble that the party rulebook wouldn’t allow Corbyn to stand again unless he got the nominations of 35 MPs, which he would struggle to do. If this heist could be pulled off, the grassroots would scream blue murder. The leader they overwhelmingly elected would have been forced out in a parliamentary coup. But the advocates of this strategy say that there could be no alternative, because by the next conference the leadership will have fixed the rules so that Corbyn is automatically on the ballot and, with grassroots opinion the way it is, he would defeat any challenger.
The other strategy is more high-risk. It is to force him out now and gamble that the party rulebook wouldn’t allow Corbyn to stand again unless he got the nominations of 35 MPs, which he would struggle to do. If this heist could be pulled off, the grassroots would scream blue murder. The leader they overwhelmingly elected would have been forced out in a parliamentary coup. But the advocates of this strategy say that there could be no alternative, because by the next conference the leadership will have fixed the rules so that Corbyn is automatically on the ballot and, with grassroots opinion the way it is, he would defeat any challenger.
turbobloke said:
The Don of Croy said:
Norm Robinson on R4 this morning says Stella Creasy had protestors outside her house, as well as the more familiar Twitter abuse.
That would be the tolerant Left at work.chris watton said:
And they call the Tories 'The Nasty Party'. Labour grass roots showing their true colours recently, and it is not at all pretty.
How their tactics aren't deemed illegal is puzzling!
I don't think Corbyns twitter mob/stop the war mob (who IMO largely make up the 200k new members who paid there £3) represent grass roots Labour. And they certainly don't represent the vast majority of the 6m people who voted Labour. The equivalent would be the Conservatives making the same idiotic membership rule changes and 50k BNP voters/agitators taking over the Party then someone saying "well that's what the tories are really like". You only have to listen to the comments being made by Labour voters on the doorsteps of Oldham to realise that. How their tactics aren't deemed illegal is puzzling!
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