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BOR said:
turbobloke said:
The Don of Croy said:
Norm Robinson on R4 this morning says Stella Creasy had protestors outside her house, as well as the more familiar Twitter abuse.
That would be the tolerant Left at work.However stark the above example is, the sheer weight of numbers makes the intolerant Left a particularly widespread, vile and utterly unpleasant mob. It's been active since Campbell and McPoison set the tone by descending from the gutter to the sewer, and it's still out there as we've seen over the past week.
After waving the death shroud of a young man in an attempt to score a political point, here's sincerely hoping the work of so many lefty bullies doesn't come to bite your ass with a similar tragedy. Fingers crossed.
Timmy40 said:
chris watton said:
And they call the Tories 'The Nasty Party'. Labour grass roots showing their true colours recently, and it is not at all pretty.
How their tactics aren't deemed illegal is puzzling!
I don't think Corbyns twitter mob/stop the war mob (who IMO largely make up the 200k new members who paid there £3) represent grass roots Labour. And they certainly don't represent the vast majority of the 6m people who voted Labour. The equivalent would be the Conservatives making the same idiotic membership rule changes and 50k BNP voters/agitators taking over the Party then someone saying "well that's what the tories are really like". You only have to listen to the comments being made by Labour voters on the doorsteps of Oldham to realise that. How their tactics aren't deemed illegal is puzzling!
The Don of Croy said:
Reading about the Stop the War Coalition and it's aims we're bumping into student agit-prop stuff again, but now they feel they've got their man at the table with the big boys so, obviously, their voice must be heard.
The STWC are far nastier than just a bunch of hysterical students. They get into bed with these apologists for Islamist extremism. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31657333
These ARE the "terrorist sympathisers" . People Corbyn actively works and associates with. Corbyn, leader of the Labour Party.
Halb said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
Corbyn is a wacko he has opinions and views that would have been relevant in the 60's as long as you were stoned out of your mind and he has given a voice to all the loony lefties.
The longer he hangs around the more the Labour party will be damaged it is in tatters at the moment and he isn't about to bring it back to being an effective opposition any time soon
The future?The longer he hangs around the more the Labour party will be damaged it is in tatters at the moment and he isn't about to bring it back to being an effective opposition any time soon
http://new.spectator.co.uk/2015/12/after-jeremy-co...
article said:
There are two distinct anti-Corbyn strategies being touted at the moment. The first is to make doing the job so difficult for him that he resigns. But there are no signs that Corbyn intends to walk away. Ever since party conference, he has been rather enjoying himself.
The other strategy is more high-risk. It is to force him out now and gamble that the party rulebook wouldn’t allow Corbyn to stand again unless he got the nominations of 35 MPs, which he would struggle to do. If this heist could be pulled off, the grassroots would scream blue murder. The leader they overwhelmingly elected would have been forced out in a parliamentary coup. But the advocates of this strategy say that there could be no alternative, because by the next conference the leadership will have fixed the rules so that Corbyn is automatically on the ballot and, with grassroots opinion the way it is, he would defeat any challenger.
The other strategy is more high-risk. It is to force him out now and gamble that the party rulebook wouldn’t allow Corbyn to stand again unless he got the nominations of 35 MPs, which he would struggle to do. If this heist could be pulled off, the grassroots would scream blue murder. The leader they overwhelmingly elected would have been forced out in a parliamentary coup. But the advocates of this strategy say that there could be no alternative, because by the next conference the leadership will have fixed the rules so that Corbyn is automatically on the ballot and, with grassroots opinion the way it is, he would defeat any challenger.
chris watton said:
Timmy40 said:
chris watton said:
And they call the Tories 'The Nasty Party'. Labour grass roots showing their true colours recently, and it is not at all pretty.
How their tactics aren't deemed illegal is puzzling!
I don't think Corbyns twitter mob/stop the war mob (who IMO largely make up the 200k new members who paid there £3) represent grass roots Labour. And they certainly don't represent the vast majority of the 6m people who voted Labour. The equivalent would be the Conservatives making the same idiotic membership rule changes and 50k BNP voters/agitators taking over the Party then someone saying "well that's what the tories are really like". You only have to listen to the comments being made by Labour voters on the doorsteps of Oldham to realise that. How their tactics aren't deemed illegal is puzzling!
If you're really lucky you might get to see a much diminished Labour in power in Coalition with Plaid Cymru, the SNP and the Greens. Now wouldn't that be ****ing wonderful for the UK.
Timmy40 said:
chris watton said:
Timmy40 said:
chris watton said:
And they call the Tories 'The Nasty Party'. Labour grass roots showing their true colours recently, and it is not at all pretty.
How their tactics aren't deemed illegal is puzzling!
I don't think Corbyns twitter mob/stop the war mob (who IMO largely make up the 200k new members who paid there £3) represent grass roots Labour. And they certainly don't represent the vast majority of the 6m people who voted Labour. The equivalent would be the Conservatives making the same idiotic membership rule changes and 50k BNP voters/agitators taking over the Party then someone saying "well that's what the tories are really like". You only have to listen to the comments being made by Labour voters on the doorsteps of Oldham to realise that. How their tactics aren't deemed illegal is puzzling!
If you're really lucky you might get to see a much diminished Labour in power in Coalition with Plaid Cymru, the SNP and the Greens. Now wouldn't that be ****ing wonderful for the UK.
Again, the last labour administration left this country in a very bad state - I would personally like to see Labour never get into office again - and I am no Cameron fan.
Timmy40 said:
chris watton said:
Timmy40 said:
chris watton said:
And they call the Tories 'The Nasty Party'. Labour grass roots showing their true colours recently, and it is not at all pretty.
How their tactics aren't deemed illegal is puzzling!
I don't think Corbyns twitter mob/stop the war mob (who IMO largely make up the 200k new members who paid there £3) represent grass roots Labour. And they certainly don't represent the vast majority of the 6m people who voted Labour. The equivalent would be the Conservatives making the same idiotic membership rule changes and 50k BNP voters/agitators taking over the Party then someone saying "well that's what the tories are really like". You only have to listen to the comments being made by Labour voters on the doorsteps of Oldham to realise that. How their tactics aren't deemed illegal is puzzling!
If you're really lucky you might get to see a much diminished Labour in power in Coalition with Plaid Cymru, the SNP and the Greens. Now wouldn't that be ****ing wonderful for the UK.
chris watton said:
Timmy40 said:
chris watton said:
Timmy40 said:
chris watton said:
And they call the Tories 'The Nasty Party'. Labour grass roots showing their true colours recently, and it is not at all pretty.
How their tactics aren't deemed illegal is puzzling!
I don't think Corbyns twitter mob/stop the war mob (who IMO largely make up the 200k new members who paid there £3) represent grass roots Labour. And they certainly don't represent the vast majority of the 6m people who voted Labour. The equivalent would be the Conservatives making the same idiotic membership rule changes and 50k BNP voters/agitators taking over the Party then someone saying "well that's what the tories are really like". You only have to listen to the comments being made by Labour voters on the doorsteps of Oldham to realise that. How their tactics aren't deemed illegal is puzzling!
If you're really lucky you might get to see a much diminished Labour in power in Coalition with Plaid Cymru, the SNP and the Greens. Now wouldn't that be ****ing wonderful for the UK.
Again, the last labour administration left this country in a very bad state - I would personally like to see Labour never get into office again - and I am no Cameron fan.
Timmy40 said:
chris watton said:
Timmy40 said:
chris watton said:
Timmy40 said:
chris watton said:
And they call the Tories 'The Nasty Party'. Labour grass roots showing their true colours recently, and it is not at all pretty.
How their tactics aren't deemed illegal is puzzling!
I don't think Corbyns twitter mob/stop the war mob (who IMO largely make up the 200k new members who paid there £3) represent grass roots Labour. And they certainly don't represent the vast majority of the 6m people who voted Labour. The equivalent would be the Conservatives making the same idiotic membership rule changes and 50k BNP voters/agitators taking over the Party then someone saying "well that's what the tories are really like". You only have to listen to the comments being made by Labour voters on the doorsteps of Oldham to realise that. How their tactics aren't deemed illegal is puzzling!
If you're really lucky you might get to see a much diminished Labour in power in Coalition with Plaid Cymru, the SNP and the Greens. Now wouldn't that be ****ing wonderful for the UK.
Again, the last labour administration left this country in a very bad state - I would personally like to see Labour never get into office again - and I am no Cameron fan.
It ought not to be necessary to refresh out of office, here's hoping.
Timmy40 said:
If you think what New Labour did was bad you've seen nothing compared to what a proper Left wing Labour Government in coalition with the SNP and Greens would do. As for never having any other Government than the Conservatives by Majors time the Cons desperately needed a break from office, they were as a party worn out.
truth be told though there is no reason why this must be the case. As long as proper succession is factored in and nepotism is reduced as much as possible a one party state does have some quite significant advantages over one that changes direction every few yearsMr_B said:
After Benn's speech and weeks of gaffs from McDonnell and Corbyn, plus a probably weak hold of tonight's by-election, I think move will be made next week to ensure he is ditched and Labour still have a good 4 years to stand at least some hope in 2020.
If labour lose tonight, will this week be worse, or on a par with last week??williamp said:
Mr_B said:
After Benn's speech and weeks of gaffs from McDonnell and Corbyn, plus a probably weak hold of tonight's by-election, I think move will be made next week to ensure he is ditched and Labour still have a good 4 years to stand at least some hope in 2020.
If labour lose tonight, will this week be worse, or on a par with last week??Timmy40 said:
williamp said:
Mr_B said:
After Benn's speech and weeks of gaffs from McDonnell and Corbyn, plus a probably weak hold of tonight's by-election, I think move will be made next week to ensure he is ditched and Labour still have a good 4 years to stand at least some hope in 2020.
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