Discussion
AJL308 said:
The statement made by Corbyn was quite possibly the most arrogant, disrespectful, ego maniacal pieces of utter s
te I have ever heard in my entire life. To associate his own professional problems with the horrendous murder of a perfectly innocent, decent person is off-the-scale arrogance. I mean WTF is this guy about? I don't claim to have the qualifications to make the following statement but; I think he's mentally ill. He seems to have a personality disorder of some sort.
How anyone can think that this guy is fit to lead anything at all is frightening, quite frankly. This man may end up with the power to start wars and have his finger on the nuclear trigger. The Labour Party needs to find a way to get rid of him ASAP.
To be fair to him I don't think he'd start a war, especially a nuclear one. It would be against his principles. He might however get us into a war through sheer ineptitude, which would be no better.te I have ever heard in my entire life. To associate his own professional problems with the horrendous murder of a perfectly innocent, decent person is off-the-scale arrogance. I mean WTF is this guy about? I don't claim to have the qualifications to make the following statement but; I think he's mentally ill. He seems to have a personality disorder of some sort.How anyone can think that this guy is fit to lead anything at all is frightening, quite frankly. This man may end up with the power to start wars and have his finger on the nuclear trigger. The Labour Party needs to find a way to get rid of him ASAP.
Welshbeef said:
At Parliment today Cameron was on Form.
Welcoming the new MP replacing Jo Cox, and then said she might want to make sure her phone is on as you might be getting a call to join the cabinet by the end of the day.... And I though I was having a bad day
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Literally the whole Parliment was laughing McDonnell etc all but 1 who looked like someone nearly shaking with rage.
Corbyns statement started to attack his own MPs and front bench for their behaviour -- total open warfare (the ear to ear grinning by the Torys was impossible to miss. Frankly in any other period Labour would be ko'ing the Torys instead they are utterly unchallenged. A shame as regardless of who is in power you want to see strong opposition not a laughing stock.
She was the MP replacing Sadiq Khan as I recall.Welcoming the new MP replacing Jo Cox, and then said she might want to make sure her phone is on as you might be getting a call to join the cabinet by the end of the day.... And I though I was having a bad day
. Literally the whole Parliment was laughing McDonnell etc all but 1 who looked like someone nearly shaking with rage.
Corbyns statement started to attack his own MPs and front bench for their behaviour -- total open warfare (the ear to ear grinning by the Torys was impossible to miss. Frankly in any other period Labour would be ko'ing the Torys instead they are utterly unchallenged. A shame as regardless of who is in power you want to see strong opposition not a laughing stock.
Just turned over to BBC news to Corbyn addressing his supporters championing all the usual causes. Not heard anything that offers anything to the post industrial heartland. Appears Labours core appeal is limited to London and university cities. Still waiting... No. Damn footballs on...
Labour look finished.
Labour look finished.
Edited by Northern Munkee on Monday 27th June 20:04
Derek Smith said:
I disagree. Now is not the time for anything. Labour are out in the cold until the next election, nearly four years away. They need to get a new boss established and, if anything, this is a wee bit early.
Far from the tories having a laugh, they are the ones in trouble as they are the ones with a leadership battle on their hands, and the winner will lead them into the next election. If Gove or Johnson are picked and there are significant financial problems on leaving, they will be blamed, at least by anyone sensible and the labour PR machine.
Floating voters tend to move according to the financial situation at the time.
There are all sorts of things that could happen before the next GE, but one of them is not a stronger financial situation.
One interesting aspect is that Johnson is talking about continuing with free movement of people. I'm not sure that is what many exit voters anticipated. More to the point, is it what those in the remain organisation expected. Farage, I doubt it but he is of no consequence now. Gove - now that's an interesting one. He kept in the background to a great extent during the campaign, more or less just attaching himself to the sentiments rather than expressing his own. How will he feel about Johson's open door policy, which is how it will be described.
I think there might be interesting times in the tory party. Mind you, now is the time for their internecine battles, well before any election.
Indeed, it's King's Landing all over again, we'll get the Sept of Baelor soon.Far from the tories having a laugh, they are the ones in trouble as they are the ones with a leadership battle on their hands, and the winner will lead them into the next election. If Gove or Johnson are picked and there are significant financial problems on leaving, they will be blamed, at least by anyone sensible and the labour PR machine.
Floating voters tend to move according to the financial situation at the time.
There are all sorts of things that could happen before the next GE, but one of them is not a stronger financial situation.
One interesting aspect is that Johnson is talking about continuing with free movement of people. I'm not sure that is what many exit voters anticipated. More to the point, is it what those in the remain organisation expected. Farage, I doubt it but he is of no consequence now. Gove - now that's an interesting one. He kept in the background to a great extent during the campaign, more or less just attaching himself to the sentiments rather than expressing his own. How will he feel about Johson's open door policy, which is how it will be described.
I think there might be interesting times in the tory party. Mind you, now is the time for their internecine battles, well before any election.
Birkin1932 said:
I see a new labour party being formed here. basically the left have hijacked the labour party, backed by the union vote.
I find it amazing
Yes. Corbyn's labour to be called National Socialists. Each current constituency will now have two Mp's: one for each new Labour and NS party. I find it amazing
williamp said:
Birkin1932 said:
I see a new labour party being formed here. basically the left have hijacked the labour party, backed by the union vote.
I find it amazing
Yes. Corbyn's labour to be called National Socialists. Each current constituency will now have two Mp's: one for each new Labour and NS party. I find it amazing
They will try anything to become electable, but once in it will be the same old story for the economy. And for fairness, with the advent of career politicians and the move to the centre from the Tories, the last two terms haven't been a picnic either.
williamp said:
Birkin1932 said:
I see a new labour party being formed here. basically the left have hijacked the labour party, backed by the union vote.
I find it amazing
Yes. Corbyn's labour to be called National Socialists. Each current constituency will now have two Mp's: one for each new Labour and NS party. I find it amazing
The Hypno-Toad said:
Corbyn, like all intellectual hard left socialists, thought he was being clever.
He thought that the less noise he made about the referendum the better, so he went out campaigning for Remain in the quietest way possible. He was hoping that there would be a Leave vote, the Conservative Party would collapse in civil war and that he & his idiot minions would ride into Downing Street on their Halfords push bikes. To the cheers of the working class, they would take off their glow in the dark trouser clips, remove their safety sashes and that everyone would then settle down to life under a nice, friendly, PC, Stalinist dictatorship.
But he underestimated the very people the Labour Party should be standing up for. The working class don't want to be preached anymore about multi-cultism and enrichment from the ciabatta munching, kale sprinkling, Islington luvvie set. What they want is action on the ground.
Like all of his like, including my idiot brother, they haven't had a real job and they have never had any experience of real work & therefore have no idea what working people think. They have been told this time and time again but they have had this ingrained belief through all of their adult life that they are RIGHT, everyone else is WRONG, THEY KNOW BEST.
Basically, Corbyn has just been faced with the fact that he is a fking idiot and is so far out of his depth he can't even see the bottom of the pool. But like all of his sanctimonious fking idiot friends, he won't go quietly.
This sounds very much like the problem the EU has at the moment..He thought that the less noise he made about the referendum the better, so he went out campaigning for Remain in the quietest way possible. He was hoping that there would be a Leave vote, the Conservative Party would collapse in civil war and that he & his idiot minions would ride into Downing Street on their Halfords push bikes. To the cheers of the working class, they would take off their glow in the dark trouser clips, remove their safety sashes and that everyone would then settle down to life under a nice, friendly, PC, Stalinist dictatorship.
But he underestimated the very people the Labour Party should be standing up for. The working class don't want to be preached anymore about multi-cultism and enrichment from the ciabatta munching, kale sprinkling, Islington luvvie set. What they want is action on the ground.
Like all of his like, including my idiot brother, they haven't had a real job and they have never had any experience of real work & therefore have no idea what working people think. They have been told this time and time again but they have had this ingrained belief through all of their adult life that they are RIGHT, everyone else is WRONG, THEY KNOW BEST.
Basically, Corbyn has just been faced with the fact that he is a f
king idiot and is so far out of his depth he can't even see the bottom of the pool. But like all of his sanctimonious fking idiot friends, he won't go quietly. Edited by The Hypno-Toad on Sunday 26th June 10:04
Edited by The Hypno-Toad on Sunday 26th June 10:05
230TE said:
AJL308 said:
The statement made by Corbyn was quite possibly the most arrogant, disrespectful, ego maniacal pieces of utter ste I have ever heard in my entire life. To associate his own professional problems with the horrendous murder of a perfectly innocent, decent person is off-the-scale arrogance. I mean WTF is this guy about? I don't claim to have the qualifications to make the following statement but; I think he's mentally ill. He seems to have a personality disorder of some sort.
How anyone can think that this guy is fit to lead anything at all is frightening, quite frankly. This man may end up with the power to start wars and have his finger on the nuclear trigger. The Labour Party needs to find a way to get rid of him ASAP.
To be fair to him I don't think he'd start a war, especially a nuclear one. It would be against his principles. He might however get us into a war through sheer ineptitude, which would be no better.te I have ever heard in my entire life. To associate his own professional problems with the horrendous murder of a perfectly innocent, decent person is off-the-scale arrogance. I mean WTF is this guy about? I don't claim to have the qualifications to make the following statement but; I think he's mentally ill. He seems to have a personality disorder of some sort.How anyone can think that this guy is fit to lead anything at all is frightening, quite frankly. This man may end up with the power to start wars and have his finger on the nuclear trigger. The Labour Party needs to find a way to get rid of him ASAP.
Corbyn appears to be a massive egotist. I've never seen any evidence that he listens to anyone about anything or gives proper consideration to any advice he us given. He seems to simply do whatever he likes and ignores everything else. If something doesn't fit with his political world view he simply ignores it and continues in the same direction.
Almost his entire shadow cabinet has resigned and he's not in the least bothered. Totally ignored it. Peoples deeply held beliefs, beliefs which they've decided to throw themselves under a bus for, are inconsequential to him. He has no empathy.
He claims to be a pacifist but I wonder how true that actually is. He stood up in Parliament today and trotted out a 'poor little me' speech in which he compared his own personal work problems with that of a horrific public murder of a defenseless young woman who, by everyone's account, was a thoroughly decent human being. To say something like that is utterly callous and is without the slightest thought for other people. It demonstrates an utter contempt for other peoples feelings, as far as I can see. It shows that you have zero judgement of your actions.
It's exactly the profile of someone would would start a war if he thought it would suit his purposes.
AJL308 said:
Corbyn appears to be a massive egotist. I've never seen any evidence that he listens to anyone about anything or gives proper consideration to any advice he us given. He seems to simply do whatever he likes and ignores everything else. If something doesn't fit with his political world view he simply ignores it and continues in the same direction.
This became clear in his 'handling' of criticism in the press, responding to it as a personal attack designed to discredit him and be nasty to him. "Disgusting subliminal nastiness", he called it. Is it not remotely possible that they have no opinion on you either way and they just thought your ideas were s
t, Jeremy?AJL308 said:
Welshbeef said:
At Parliment today Cameron was on Form.
Welcoming the new MP replacing Jo Cox, and then said she might want to make sure her phone is on as you might be getting a call to join the cabinet by the end of the day.... And I though I was having a bad day.
Literally the whole Parliment was laughing McDonnell etc all but 1 who looked like someone nearly shaking with rage.
Corbyns statement started to attack his own MPs and front bench for their behaviour -- total open warfare (the ear to ear grinning by the Torys was impossible to miss. Frankly in any other period Labour would be ko'ing the Torys instead they are utterly unchallenged. A shame as regardless of who is in power you want to see strong opposition not a laughing stock.
The statement made by Corbyn was quite possibly the most arrogant, disrespectful, ego maniacal pieces of utter sWelcoming the new MP replacing Jo Cox, and then said she might want to make sure her phone is on as you might be getting a call to join the cabinet by the end of the day.... And I though I was having a bad day
. Literally the whole Parliment was laughing McDonnell etc all but 1 who looked like someone nearly shaking with rage.
Corbyns statement started to attack his own MPs and front bench for their behaviour -- total open warfare (the ear to ear grinning by the Torys was impossible to miss. Frankly in any other period Labour would be ko'ing the Torys instead they are utterly unchallenged. A shame as regardless of who is in power you want to see strong opposition not a laughing stock.
te I have ever heard in my entire life. To associate his own professional problems with the horrendous murder of a perfectly innocent, decent person is off-the-scale arrogance. I mean WTF is this guy about? I don't claim to have the qualifications to make the following statement but; I think he's mentally ill. He seems to have a personality disorder of some sort.How anyone can think that this guy is fit to lead anything at all is frightening, quite frankly. This man may end up with the power to start wars and have his finger on the nuclear trigger. The Labour Party needs to find a way to get rid of him ASAP.
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