Jeremy Corbyn

[davepoth]

johnxjsc1985 said:

so with his £4.5mil from membership and now his T shirt scam he is really bringing in the revenue.

He's no prosecco socialist.

[Murph7355]

JawKnee said:

Murph7355 said:

JawKnee said:

...My prediction is the next government will be a Lab/SNP coalition.

Would you care to bet on that?

No, because it could also end up being a Labour majority.

You can have both outcomes if you would like to bet!

[Whoozit]

BlackLabel said:

MI5 at it again.


"The battle for the leadership of the Labour party took an extraordinary twist on Saturday as Jeremy Corbyn’s aides were accused in effect of breaking into the offices of a resigning shadow cabinet minister in a major breach of security and parliamentary privilege."

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/23/je...

WOW. That is big news if true and if in the House of Commons, not least as the people involved may have their access revoked. I know one of the recent HoC Serjeant-at-arms. Will ask what the fallout from that might be.

[Welshbeef]

Whoozit said:

WOW. That is big news if true and if in the House of Commons, not least as the people involved may have their access revoked. I know one of the recent HoC Serjeant-at-arms. Will ask what the fallout from that might be.

And it's good to see the lies form JC to try to make it appear a basic error when it's nothing of the sort.

[jmorgan]

It will be brushed under the carpet.

[Welshbeef]

jmorgan said:

It will be brushed under the carpet.

It's out of Labours hands - it will now depend on The Speakerr as to how this is dealt with




None the less it seems like a lot of bad things have happened in the JCs short tenure - why?

[jmorgan]

What happened after the police searched that MP's office without a warrant? Cannot remember the outcome. Few years ago now.

[Smollet]

jmorgan said:

What happened after the police searched that MP's office without a warrant? Cannot remember the outcome. Few years ago now.

Was it Damien Green? Iirc nothing came from it.

[jmorgan]

Smollet said:

jmorgan said:

What happened after the police searched that MP's office without a warrant? Cannot remember the outcome. Few years ago now.

Was it Damien Green? Iirc nothing came from it.

More that the one I was thinking of then. Found it.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7844728.stm

Daniel Kawczynski

Edit. I might be confusing the two.

Edited by jmorgan on Sunday 24th July 07:33

[glazbagun]

Halb said:

Someone is certainly playing dirty...

I would imagine there's gonna be more of the above in an attempt to swing members to vote for Owen over the next two months.

Me too. A lot of people obviously have a problem working with Corbyn so it can't all be a Blairite plot. Having said that I think the MP is making a bit of a meal about her staff feeling intimidated- they were so intimidated they didn't realise the office had been accessed on two prior occasions?

[eccles]

glazbagun said:

Halb said:

Someone is certainly playing dirty...

I would imagine there's gonna be more of the above in an attempt to swing members to vote for Owen over the next two months.

Me too. A lot of people obviously have a problem working with Corbyn so it can't all be a Blairite plot. Having said that I think the MP is making a bit of a meal about her staff feeling intimidated- they were so intimidated they didn't realise the office had been accessed on two prior occasions?

It's all a bit blatant. Chuck enough crap (like the T shirt story) out there and some of it will stick.

[Johnnytheboy]

ninja-lewis said:

johnxjsc1985 said:

his £10 T shirts are being made by slave Labour for 30p an hour nice one Jezza

It's a 19 pence/hour saving compared to the Haiti manufactured t-shirts that funded his campaign last summer. How very capitalistic of him to cut wages to increase his profit margin.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3232177/49...

I was going to buy one of them for a laugh.

[hidetheelephants]

JawKnee said:

hidetheelephants said:

JawKnee said:

hidetheelephants said:

technodup said:

JawKnee said:

My prediction is the next government will be a Lab/SNP coalition.

You think English voters are going to a) vote for Corbyn in large numbers and b) accept the SNP, a single issue Scottish party taking power?

Dream. On

If nothing else Ed's refusal to rule out an SNP coalition helped to lose him the 2015 GE, so on that basis have at it.

Incorrect. You must have missed him say this.

"“Let me be plain. We’re not going to do a deal with the Scottish National party; we’re not going to have a coalition, we’re not going to have a deal."

He took so long to do so that no-one believed him when he uttered it.

He also stated it nearly 2 months before the election!

First you say he refused to rule it out, then you say, oh actually he did but he left it too late. What will your next back track be?

Apologies that my recollection of the timeline of Ed's utterances last year is not as precise as yours; the basic point still stands, he was slow refuting the (doubtless prompted by tory spin doctors)press speculation that given the predicted hung parliament Labour would look to the SNP for a coalition, and by the time he did so the news cycle had moved on and no-one was listening. Many soft labour voters in Scotland assumed that they could get their prefered Labour government and demonstrate their dissatisfaction by voting SNP at the same time, but stay-at-homes and UKIP eating Labour's lunch in the north put paid to that.

Whoozit said:

BlackLabel said:

MI5 at it again.


"The battle for the leadership of the Labour party took an extraordinary twist on Saturday as Jeremy Corbyn’s aides were accused in effect of breaking into the offices of a resigning shadow cabinet minister in a major breach of security and parliamentary privilege."

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/23/je...

WOW. That is big news if true and if in the House of Commons, not least as the people involved may have their access revoked. I know one of the recent HoC Serjeant-at-arms. Will ask what the fallout from that might be.

Murphy is a piece of work, up to her neck in the Falkirk selection scandal, which in turn was connected to the industrial action at Grangemouth as the shop steward there was her campaign manager and was up to all sorts of scumbaggery(including intimidation of people in their own homes; is a pattern forming?); clearly getting caught with her hands in the till hasn't calmed her down(or prevented her continuing to work in the HoC).

[Halb]

glazbagun said:

Me too. A lot of people obviously have a problem working with Corbyn so it can't all be a Blairite plot. Having said that I think the MP is making a bit of a meal about her staff feeling intimidated- they were so intimidated they didn't realise the office had been accessed on two prior occasions?

Indeed.
This is an office for the shadow secretary, yet this person is still in it? and then there is that letter to Jeremy thing from he female MPs. I think we'll see a story like this come out once a week/fortnight up till the election. Just to keep the fear stoked.
On Marr today, current polls put Jeremy at 57% and Owen at 22%. They'll have to up the fear.

edit
very interesting lil take on the 'story' by McDOnald there on Marr.

Edited by Halb on Sunday 24th July 09:46

[johnxjsc1985]

Corbyn has become the Mario Balotelli of Politics in so much as its never his fault.

[Strocky]

If you think that a state that had no compunction in meddling with the democracy of countries all over the world would somehow be morally overcome as to not get involved illicitly in domestic affairs at the behest of the status quo, you're either grossly naive or more likely indulging in cognitive dissonance due to your own bias

[johnxjsc1985]

Strocky said:

If you think that a state that had no compunction in meddling with the democracy of countries all over the world would somehow be morally overcome as to not get involved illicitly in domestic affairs at the behest of the status quo, you're either grossly naive or more likely indulging in cognitive dissonance due to your own bias

So your with the Diana dark forces at work thingy. I wouldn't rule anything in or out these days when
David Icke is starting to make sense you know things are going tits up.

[Strocky]

johnxjsc1985 said:

So your with the Diana dark forces at work thingy. I wouldn't rule anything in or out these days when
David Icke is starting to make sense you know things are going tits up.

Nothing as tinfoiled as that, every 1st Jan a small of what was suppressed to suit the status quo agenda at the time is revealed (unless the more that standard 30 year time bar has been asked for)

[Andy Zarse]

Strocky said:

If you think that a state that had no compunction in meddling with the democracy of countries all over the world would somehow be morally overcome as to not get involved illicitly in domestic affairs at the behest of the status quo, you're either grossly naive or more likely indulging in cognitive dissonance due to your own bias

OTOH, all the machiavellian machinations and meddling by the Dark Forces didn't really work very well for the establishment in the recent vote on maintaining the status quo...

Could it be that it's you who is grossly deluded and indulging in fantasy due to the failure of your own politics to gain any meaningful traction? (Answer: Yes).

[Andy Zarse]

Halb said:

This is an office for the shadow secretary, yet this person is still in it? and then there is that letter to Jeremy thing from he female MPs. I think we'll see a story like this come out once a week/fortnight up till the election...

edit
very interesting lil take on the 'story' by McDOnald there on Marr.

Sorry, no. Parliamentary offices don't work like this. She will be "still in it" until the HoC adin folk move her. Everyone and anyone who works in the HoC environs knows this. Instead of knocking and waiting for and answer they must have knocked, recieved no answer and used the master key to enter. This is totally against all HoC protocol and rules.

Then we come to this bit: yesterday Saint Jeremy told the media the person in question had gone there to talk to Malhotra's staff. Then in Ronald McDonell's "interesting lil take on Marr" he said the person knew they'd moved out and went to see if the office was occupied (although the records/files etc were still in the office).

So he (and you) are asking us to beleieve that this Corbyn lacky was went to Malhotra's vacated office to talk to people they already knew had left. You really expect people to believe this? And if so it means either one of Corbachev or Ronald are telling bare faced lies. And also that their people are utterly useless and incompetent beyond human comprehansion.

Using Occam's bluntest razor, the most likely answer is they went to case the joint, got caught and are now lying lying lying and yet still can't get the story straigh. Absolutely beyong parody!

Edited by Andy Zarse on Sunday 24th July 12:11

Edited by Andy Zarse on Sunday 24th July 12:16