Jeremy Corbyn

[Andy Zarse]

JawKnee said:

techiedave said:

Andy Zarse said:

JawKnee said:

It really is the pettiest thing to to attack a politician for. The leader of the opposition failed to ring a merchandise manufacturer? DISGRACE!!!1111!!1

You know when you're getting desperate for valid arguments when you start whining about T-Shirts.

Well now you know what it's like for normal people who have had to listen to the Left whining on and on and on about almost everything in the entire world...

That said, when a large retailer sells sweat shop produced clothes the egregious boss and rapacious shareholders are branded with the Mark of Cain, shops boycotted and employees intimidated.

When, however, St Jeremy is charged with the same offence, it is no case to answer, his slavish acolytes screaming that he can't be responsible for everything, and wailing that IT'S NOT HIS FAULT RIGHT!

Nobody has suggested Corby is a white devil slave master; simply that once again -and this is a daily occurence - that his organisation is totally incompetent. In short it is indicative of his slovenly, slipshod and bungling approach to administrative matters and basic detail. Voters are becoming more and more aware that Corbyn is a judderingly useless stgibbon, and that's before they even consider that he is a truly sinister individual with an uncontrollable temper or that his politics are complete bananas.

Edited by Andy Zarse on Sunday 24th July 16:34

They knocked your £3 application back didn't they

At least we can be sure his Daily Mail subscription wasn't declined.

So you're saying Team Corbyn are rigorous in their application, sticklers for maintaining correct protocol and assiduous in co-ordinating policy? That any such report to the contray is simply a farication of the MSM.

Oh well, if the cap fits, wear it! Here's Labour's Dan Hodges demolishing St Jeremy's flawed personality far more effectively than i ever could.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3705171/...

Can anyone tell me which bit is untrue (none).

[JawKnee]

Andy Zarse said:

JawKnee said:

techiedave said:

Andy Zarse said:

JawKnee said:

It really is the pettiest thing to to attack a politician for. The leader of the opposition failed to ring a merchandise manufacturer? DISGRACE!!!1111!!1

You know when you're getting desperate for valid arguments when you start whining about T-Shirts.

Well now you know what it's like for normal people who have had to listen to the Left whining on and on and on about almost everything in the entire world...

That said, when a large retailer sells sweat shop produced clothes the egregious boss and rapacious shareholders are branded with the Mark of Cain, shops boycotted and employees intimidated.

When, however, St Jeremy is charged with the same offence, it is no case to answer, his slavish acolytes screaming that he can't be responsible for everything, and wailing that IT'S NOT HIS FAULT RIGHT!

Nobody has suggested Corby is a white devil slave master; simply that once again -and this is a daily occurence - that his organisation is totally incompetent. In short it is indicative of his slovenly, slipshod and bungling approach to administrative matters and basic detail. Voters are becoming more and more aware that Corbyn is a judderingly useless stgibbon, and that's before they even consider that he is a truly sinister individual with an uncontrollable temper or that his politics are complete bananas.

Edited by Andy Zarse on Sunday 24th July 16:34

They knocked your £3 application back didn't they

At least we can be sure his Daily Mail subscription wasn't declined.

So you're saying Team Corbyn are rigorous in their application, sticklers for maintaining correct protocol and assiduous in co-ordinating policy? That any such report to the contray is simply a farication of the MSM.

Oh well, if the cap fits, wear it! Here's Labour's Dan Hodges demolishing St Jeremy's flawed personality far more effectively than i ever could.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3705171/...

Can anyone tell me which bit is untrue (none).

Carry on reading the Daily Mail and you'll carry on reading only the things you want to read. Money well spent, sir.

Corbyn's too soft, oh no wait, he's too mean and he isn't spending time reaching out to potential voters but actually he should be spending his time managing the merchandise and don't forget he's completely unelectable but it's better if he stays off the ballot paper as he will just get elected again.

[Andy Zarse]

JawKnee said:

Carry on reading the Daily Mail and you'll carry on reading only the things you want to read. Money well spent, sir.

Corbyn's too soft, oh no wait, he's too mean and he isn't spending time reaching out to potential voters but actually he should be spending his time managing the merchandise and don't forget he's completely unelectable but it's better if he stays off the ballot paper as he will just get elected again.

The beautiful thing about the Mail is it's online content is free... Socialism in action!

That aside, please explain quite how he is "reaching out to potential voters". If he is, he isn't doing it very successfully as virtually all of them seem to be rejecting his advances and fking him off down the road. He has got zero to offer working class people, he only appeals to assorted professional welfare claimants, public sector nutters and other monority pressure groups.

So tell us what his policies are. What are his big ideas? Nobody ever seems to know. I wonder, for example, where he stands on drug companies and pharma reesearch? Maybe he thinks the NHS should do all research at a cost of £500 billion a year?

Oh wait!

[JawKnee]

Andy Zarse said:

JawKnee said:

Carry on reading the Daily Mail and you'll carry on reading only the things you want to read. Money well spent, sir.

Corbyn's too soft, oh no wait, he's too mean and he isn't spending time reaching out to potential voters but actually he should be spending his time managing the merchandise and don't forget he's completely unelectable but it's better if he stays off the ballot paper as he will just get elected again.

The beautiful thing about the Mail is it's online content is free... Socialism in action!

That aside, please explain quite how he is "reaching out to potential voters". If he is, he isn't doing it very successfully as virtually all of them seem to be rejecting his advances and fking him off down the road. He has got zero to offer working class people, he only appeals to assorted professional welfare claimants, public sector nutters and other monority pressure groups.

So tell us what his policies are. What are his big ideas? Nobody ever seems to know. I wonder, for example, where he stands on drug companies and pharma reesearch? Maybe he thinks the NHS should do all research at a cost of £500 billion a year?

Oh wait!

Thanks, another contradiction to add to the list. He doesn't have any policies but people complain (even earlier in this thread) that his policies are dangerous. Make your minds up.

His decision on tax breaks for Big Pharma is based on principle but when something as trivial as campaign merchandise accidentally doesn't fit with principle he is lambasted for not sticking to principle. Do you want him to stick to his principles or not? Make your minds up.

Make your minds up

Make your minds up

Make your minds up

Can you see how the anti Corbyn rhetoric has reached such fervent levels that it is twisting and contorting in on itself to the point where it begins to lose sense?

[AstonZagato]

JawKnee said:

Can you see how the anti Corbyn rhetoric has reached such fervent levels that it is twisting and contorting in on itself to the point where it begins to lose sense?

Pot, meet Mr Kettle.

You are cognitive dissonance personified.

[P5BNij]

JawKnee said:

Andy Zarse said:

JawKnee said:

Carry on reading the Daily Mail and you'll carry on reading only the things you want to read. Money well spent, sir.

Corbyn's too soft, oh no wait, he's too mean and he isn't spending time reaching out to potential voters but actually he should be spending his time managing the merchandise and don't forget he's completely unelectable but it's better if he stays off the ballot paper as he will just get elected again.

The beautiful thing about the Mail is it's online content is free... Socialism in action!

That aside, please explain quite how he is "reaching out to potential voters". If he is, he isn't doing it very successfully as virtually all of them seem to be rejecting his advances and fking him off down the road. He has got zero to offer working class people, he only appeals to assorted professional welfare claimants, public sector nutters and other monority pressure groups.

So tell us what his policies are. What are his big ideas? Nobody ever seems to know. I wonder, for example, where he stands on drug companies and pharma reesearch? Maybe he thinks the NHS should do all research at a cost of £500 billion a year?

Oh wait!

Thanks, another contradiction to add to the list. He doesn't have any policies but people complain (even earlier in this thread) that his policies are dangerous. Make your minds up.

His decision on tax breaks for Big Pharma is based on principle but when something as trivial as campaign merchandise accidentally doesn't fit with principle he is lambasted for not sticking to principle. Do you want him to stick to his principles or not? Make your minds up.

Make your minds up

Make your minds up

Make your minds up

Can you see how the anti Corbyn rhetoric has reached such fervent levels that it is twisting and contorting in on itself to the point where it begins to lose sense?

Whatever it is you're quaffing by the bucket load I'd love a sip, it appears to be making you somewhat light headed.

[anonymous-user]

JawKnee said:

Andy Zarse said:

JawKnee said:

Carry on reading the Daily Mail and you'll carry on reading only the things you want to read. Money well spent, sir.

Corbyn's too soft, oh no wait, he's too mean and he isn't spending time reaching out to potential voters but actually he should be spending his time managing the merchandise and don't forget he's completely unelectable but it's better if he stays off the ballot paper as he will just get elected again.

The beautiful thing about the Mail is it's online content is free... Socialism in action!

That aside, please explain quite how he is "reaching out to potential voters". If he is, he isn't doing it very successfully as virtually all of them seem to be rejecting his advances and fking him off down the road. He has got zero to offer working class people, he only appeals to assorted professional welfare claimants, public sector nutters and other monority pressure groups.

So tell us what his policies are. What are his big ideas? Nobody ever seems to know. I wonder, for example, where he stands on drug companies and pharma reesearch? Maybe he thinks the NHS should do all research at a cost of £500 billion a year?

Oh wait!

Thanks, another contradiction to add to the list. He doesn't have any policies but people complain (even earlier in this thread) that his policies are dangerous. Make your minds up.

His decision on tax breaks for Big Pharma is based on principle but when something as trivial as campaign merchandise accidentally doesn't fit with principle he is lambasted for not sticking to principle. Do you want him to stick to his principles or not? Make your minds up.

Make your minds up

Make your minds up

Make your minds up

Can you see how the anti Corbyn rhetoric has reached such fervent levels that it is twisting and contorting in on itself to the point where it begins to lose sense?

No I just see a guy out of touch with his core electorate who want a left of centre Labour Party. I see a guy propped up by idealists who think he is the savour to everything and finally I see yourself you are either trolling (and doing it very well) or are like the fawning cretins on his facebook page who really do think he is a messiah.
I go for the trolling and thank you for some of the better satirical posts of recent weeks.

[JawKnee]

P5BNij said:

Whatever it is you're quaffing by the bucket load I'd love a sip, it appears to be making you somewhat light headed.

Tired, over used insults don't have quite the impact you're after.

[schmunk]

JawKnee said:

don't forget he's completely unelectable but it's better if he stays off the ballot paper as he will just get elected again.

You don't yet seem to have grasped the difference between an election voted on by the sort of people who choose to become paying members of a political party and an election voted on by the population as a whole.

[turbobloke]

schmunk said:

JawKnee said:

don't forget he's completely unelectable but it's better if he stays off the ballot paper as he will just get elected again.

You don't yet seem to have grasped the difference between an election voted on by the sort of people who choose to become paying members of a political party and an election voted on by the population as a whole.

It's fortunate for the country if his faithful party members have sufficient momentum to keep him as 'leader' as it makes Theresa May's job in 2020 significantly easier with the population as a whole (as you pointed out). Fingers crossed.

[hidetheelephants]

JawKnee said:

ChemicalChaos said:

Currently debating both the t-shirt and break-in issues with a Corbyn fanatic friend of mine.

His response seems thus far to be centred around the fact that the shirts were obviously done by some lower-down PR person in Momentum and Corbyn was not involved in any way so it is not his fault. I quote....
"why would someone as busy as corbyn, (at the time) every day going up and down the country for rallys. oversee the whole process of making t shirts
are you fking insane
no campaigning polititian has time for that
you act as if he could just have sat down and called all the distributors and manaufacturers and go 'is your process completely and utterly fair and ethical'
other people should have done that
but blaming corbyn for that is an act of someone who doesnt know how things work, or someone who is just trying to smear him"

I'm sorry, but this just makes him look, at best, like someone who can't keep a track of what is going on. If people were putting my name in t-shirts then I'd make damn sure at some point to involve myself and make sure they were't doing something that would come back and make me look like a monumental plonker later on.

It really is the pettiest thing to to attack a politician for. The leader of the opposition failed to ring a merchandise manufacturer? DISGRACE!!!1111!!1

You know when you're getting desperate for valid arguments when you start whining about T-Shirts.

Dissembling nonsense; given the 'this is what a feminist looks like' sweatshop t-shirt debacle it's basic stuff that your minions will be instructed to ensure that merchandise is assembled lovingly by people getting a living wage in safe working conditions. That this is not so is a basic failure of leadership, not unlike his complete inability to lead a shadow government. If he cannot or will not surround himself with people who can carry out basic administrative tasks competently, how the fk are voters expected to believe he could run the country?

[JawKnee]

hidetheelephants said:

JawKnee said:

ChemicalChaos said:

Currently debating both the t-shirt and break-in issues with a Corbyn fanatic friend of mine.

His response seems thus far to be centred around the fact that the shirts were obviously done by some lower-down PR person in Momentum and Corbyn was not involved in any way so it is not his fault. I quote....
"why would someone as busy as corbyn, (at the time) every day going up and down the country for rallys. oversee the whole process of making t shirts
are you fking insane
no campaigning polititian has time for that
you act as if he could just have sat down and called all the distributors and manaufacturers and go 'is your process completely and utterly fair and ethical'
other people should have done that
but blaming corbyn for that is an act of someone who doesnt know how things work, or someone who is just trying to smear him"

I'm sorry, but this just makes him look, at best, like someone who can't keep a track of what is going on. If people were putting my name in t-shirts then I'd make damn sure at some point to involve myself and make sure they were't doing something that would come back and make me look like a monumental plonker later on.

It really is the pettiest thing to to attack a politician for. The leader of the opposition failed to ring a merchandise manufacturer? DISGRACE!!!1111!!1

You know when you're getting desperate for valid arguments when you start whining about T-Shirts.

Dissembling nonsense; given the 'this is what a feminist looks like' sweatshop t-shirt debacle it's basic stuff that your minions will be instructed to ensure that merchandise is assembled lovingly by people getting a living wage in safe working conditions. That this is not so is a basic failure of leadership, not unlike his complete inability to lead a shadow government. If he cannot or will not surround himself with people who can carry out basic administrative tasks competently, how the fk are voters expected to believe he could run the country?

Sadly, I doubt the average voter cares where a few T-Shirts were made. If they did we'd see companies like Primark struggling to stay in business. This story simply wont register with the population at large. They don't care, which is part of the problem.

[hidetheelephants]

JawKnee said:

Carry on reading the Daily Mail and you'll carry on reading only the things you want to read. Money well spent, sir.

Corbyn's too soft, oh no wait, he's too mean and he isn't spending time reaching out to potential voters but actually he should be spending his time managing the merchandise and don't forget he's completely unelectable but it's better if he stays off the ballot paper as he will just get elected again.

The article may be in the MoS but the writer is a freelancer and is regularly published in the Guardian, Times etc; carry on ignoring the ball though if it helps.

[ellroy]

They may not care, but they can spot an inept .

That's JC's fundamental problem, as it was for Kinnock and Foot before him.

[Vaud]

[eccles]

hidetheelephants said:

JawKnee said:

Carry on reading the Daily Mail and you'll carry on reading only the things you want to read. Money well spent, sir.

Corbyn's too soft, oh no wait, he's too mean and he isn't spending time reaching out to potential voters but actually he should be spending his time managing the merchandise and don't forget he's completely unelectable but it's better if he stays off the ballot paper as he will just get elected again.

The article may be in the MoS but the writer is a freelancer and is regularly published in the Guardian, Times etc; carry on ignoring the ball though if it helps.

Perhaps he touted it around those other publications and they all thought it was a crap story, and only the MoS, with it's usual high standards thought it was worthy of publication....

[turbobloke]

eccles said:

hidetheelephants said:

JawKnee said:

Carry on reading the Daily Mail and you'll carry on reading only the things you want to read. Money well spent, sir.

Corbyn's too soft, oh no wait, he's too mean and he isn't spending time reaching out to potential voters but actually he should be spending his time managing the merchandise and don't forget he's completely unelectable but it's better if he stays off the ballot paper as he will just get elected again.

The article may be in the MoS but the writer is a freelancer and is regularly published in the Guardian, Times etc; carry on ignoring the ball though if it helps.

Perhaps he touted it around those other publications and they all thought it was a crap story, and only the MoS, with it's usual high standards thought it was worthy of publication....

...or left-leaning media didn't want to be seen to add to the pain of their favourite Party as it disintegrates.

Has anyone replied to AZ as yet pointing out which bits are wrong? No factual errors have been indicated as yet (afaics).

[CrutyRammers]

Andy Zarse said:

...a judderingly useless stgibbon,

[jmorgan]

Just reading on the alleged unauthorised entry to the office and this name crops up, Karie Murphy. Interesting reading the tales of Falkirk etc. Interesting reading. Red Len really is trying to be king maker.

Maybe it will not be swept under the carpet after all.

And if any MI5 managers are reading this, let me know when I get paid for this, I need to buy a new brolly.

[hidetheelephants]

jmorgan said:

Just reading on the alleged unauthorised entry to the office and this name crops up, Karie Murphy. Interesting reading the tales of Falkirk etc. Interesting reading. Red Len really is trying to be king maker.

Maybe it will not be swept under the carpet after all.

And if any MI5 managers are reading this, let me know when I get paid for this, I need to buy a new brolly.

She's a real defender of democracy, isn't she?