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Andy Zarse said:
New ICM Research poll gives Tories a 16-point lead over Labour -
Con 43%,
Lab 27%,
Ukip 13%,
Lib Dem 8%
Playing around with the forecaster on ukpollingreport.co.uk suggests that would result in:Con 43%,
Lab 27%,
Ukip 13%,
Lib Dem 8%
CON 379 seats
LAB 189
LIBD 7
UKIP 1
Other 78
Conservative majority of 108
However, that doesn't take into consideration the upcoming boundary review which would increase the Conservative majority even further.
turbobloke said:
Mr_B said:
Amazing the EU loving LibDems haven't seen a massive surge in support given how vocal they've been on getting back in to the EU ASAP.
Remainers' Remorse 
Timmy40 said:
turbobloke said:
Mr_B said:
Amazing the EU loving LibDems haven't seen a massive surge in support given how vocal they've been on getting back in to the EU ASAP.
Remainers' Remorse 
They're still LibDems.
JawKnee said:
Andy Zarse said:
JawKnee said:
The Don of Croy said:
The fightback has begun - he's winning elections (from UK Press Gazette);
"The election win was considered so minor that it had not even been covered by local media.
Corbyn said: “I’m going to tell you something now you won’t have read in any of the papers because none of them had any space to carry it whatsoever, they are very busy with all the important news of the day.
“I’ll let you know that on Thursday night, which is only 36 hours ago so the news should have got through by now, there was a by-election win in the district of Thanet in which the Labour candidate took the seat from UKIP and won it for Labour.”
On a massive 13.85% turnout, with nearly 500 votes cast, Labour walks it and Comrade Leader trumpets it from the battlements. More here -
http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/jeremy-corbyn-attack...
Labour winning back voters from UKIP. Great stuff."The election win was considered so minor that it had not even been covered by local media.
Corbyn said: “I’m going to tell you something now you won’t have read in any of the papers because none of them had any space to carry it whatsoever, they are very busy with all the important news of the day.
“I’ll let you know that on Thursday night, which is only 36 hours ago so the news should have got through by now, there was a by-election win in the district of Thanet in which the Labour candidate took the seat from UKIP and won it for Labour.”
On a massive 13.85% turnout, with nearly 500 votes cast, Labour walks it and Comrade Leader trumpets it from the battlements. More here -
http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/jeremy-corbyn-attack...
Are you Peter Kellner in disguise? Yeesh...
Andy Zarse said:
JawKnee said:
Andy Zarse said:
JawKnee said:
The Don of Croy said:
The fightback has begun - he's winning elections (from UK Press Gazette);
"The election win was considered so minor that it had not even been covered by local media.
Corbyn said: “I’m going to tell you something now you won’t have read in any of the papers because none of them had any space to carry it whatsoever, they are very busy with all the important news of the day.
“I’ll let you know that on Thursday night, which is only 36 hours ago so the news should have got through by now, there was a by-election win in the district of Thanet in which the Labour candidate took the seat from UKIP and won it for Labour.”
On a massive 13.85% turnout, with nearly 500 votes cast, Labour walks it and Comrade Leader trumpets it from the battlements. More here -
http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/jeremy-corbyn-attack...
Labour winning back voters from UKIP. Great stuff."The election win was considered so minor that it had not even been covered by local media.
Corbyn said: “I’m going to tell you something now you won’t have read in any of the papers because none of them had any space to carry it whatsoever, they are very busy with all the important news of the day.
“I’ll let you know that on Thursday night, which is only 36 hours ago so the news should have got through by now, there was a by-election win in the district of Thanet in which the Labour candidate took the seat from UKIP and won it for Labour.”
On a massive 13.85% turnout, with nearly 500 votes cast, Labour walks it and Comrade Leader trumpets it from the battlements. More here -
http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/jeremy-corbyn-attack...
Are you Peter Kellner in disguise? Yeesh...
Had the result gone the other way you'd no doubt be blowing it totally out of proportion, hailing it as a sign of how disastrous Corbyn is as a leader.
JawKnee said:
A Parish council which previously voted UKIP now don't much fancy them and like the look of Labour more. Simple as that.
Had the result gone the other way you'd no doubt be blowing it totally out of proportion, hailing it as a sign of how disastrous Corbyn is as a leader.
Like the slightly more significant town council by-election that also happened in July did, you mean? Had the result gone the other way you'd no doubt be blowing it totally out of proportion, hailing it as a sign of how disastrous Corbyn is as a leader.
JawKnee said:
A Parish council which previously voted UKIP now don't much fancy them and like the look of Labour more. Simple as that.
Except it's not, of course.At that level it's more like the UKIP guy didn't wave the postman out at a junction or he looked at someone a bit funny because their labrador shat on the pavement, and the local knitting club took umbrage.
Less than 100 votes in it? In a 13% turnout? In a parish council? And you're taking it to mean something?
You're almost as deluded as Corbyn himself.
the wording of the legal challenge about corbyn being on the vote reads in a quite convincng manner - the corbyn defence sounds a bit lame.
what is the opinion here - likely to suceed or long shot?
PS must be good to see all those £25 membership fees peed up the wall on expensive lawyers. How many membership fees are being wasted / hour court time on this? "Momentum" is perhaps a tribute to the huge mass of cash they are pumping into lawyers?
what is the opinion here - likely to suceed or long shot?
PS must be good to see all those £25 membership fees peed up the wall on expensive lawyers. How many membership fees are being wasted / hour court time on this? "Momentum" is perhaps a tribute to the huge mass of cash they are pumping into lawyers?
technodup said:
JawKnee said:
A Parish council which previously voted UKIP now don't much fancy them and like the look of Labour more. Simple as that.
Except it's not, of course.At that level it's more like the UKIP guy didn't wave the postman out at a junction or he looked at someone a bit funny because their labrador shat on the pavement, and the local knitting club took umbrage.
Less than 100 votes in it? In a 13% turnout? In a parish council? And you're taking it to mean something?
You're almost as deluded as Corbyn himself.
hole to people around him. Well isn't that a surprise? And of course all those people who put the 'X' in the box that said "Labour" had absolutely no opinion on the leader of the party they were voting for. None whatsoever. They probably didn't even know who he was... Deluded? I think you need to look a bit closer to home.
///ajd said:
the wording of the legal challenge about corbyn being on the vote reads in a quite convincng manner - the corbyn defence sounds a bit lame.
what is the opinion here - likely to suceed or long shot?
PS must be good to see all those £25 membership fees peed up the wall on expensive lawyers. How many membership fees are being wasted / hour court time on this? "Momentum" is perhaps a tribute to the huge mass of cash they are pumping into lawyers?
No idea whether likely or not but if it was to happen, the two largest parties in the country would both have leaders from which the parties membership had absolutely no say in. The PM and largest opposition leader decided by only a narrow Westminster elite. I'm not sure that's a great advert for democracy.what is the opinion here - likely to suceed or long shot?
PS must be good to see all those £25 membership fees peed up the wall on expensive lawyers. How many membership fees are being wasted / hour court time on this? "Momentum" is perhaps a tribute to the huge mass of cash they are pumping into lawyers?
JawKnee said:
No idea whether likely or not but if it was to happen, the two largest parties in the country would both have leaders from which the parties membership had absolutely no say in. The PM and largest opposition leader decided by only a narrow Westminster elite. I'm not sure that's a great advert for democracy.
Well you can argue a boss who doesn't have the respect of 80% of his workforce is not a great advert either. Infact it is a cringeworthy car crash with no redeeming features for Corbyn whatsoever.JawKnee said:
No idea whether likely or not but if it was to happen, the two largest parties in the country would both have leaders from which the parties membership had absolutely no say in. The PM and largest opposition leader decided by only a narrow Westminster elite. I'm not sure that's a great advert for democracy.
To be fair to the Tories, at least she comes from the same wing of the party as her predecessor...Welshbeef said:
This is damming for the Labour Party.
Surely now the momentum fans will start to realise what they think the country wants isn't what the country actually wants
No they will not change, what you don't realise yet comrade, is that they are right and know best and the country is wrong!!!!Surely now the momentum fans will start to realise what they think the country wants isn't what the country actually wants
JawKnee said:
Andy Zarse said:
JawKnee said:
Andy Zarse said:
JawKnee said:
The Don of Croy said:
The fightback has begun - he's winning elections (from UK Press Gazette);
"The election win was considered so minor that it had not even been covered by local media.
Corbyn said: “I’m going to tell you something now you won’t have read in any of the papers because none of them had any space to carry it whatsoever, they are very busy with all the important news of the day.
“I’ll let you know that on Thursday night, which is only 36 hours ago so the news should have got through by now, there was a by-election win in the district of Thanet in which the Labour candidate took the seat from UKIP and won it for Labour.”
On a massive 13.85% turnout, with nearly 500 votes cast, Labour walks it and Comrade Leader trumpets it from the battlements. More here -
http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/jeremy-corbyn-attack...
Labour winning back voters from UKIP. Great stuff."The election win was considered so minor that it had not even been covered by local media.
Corbyn said: “I’m going to tell you something now you won’t have read in any of the papers because none of them had any space to carry it whatsoever, they are very busy with all the important news of the day.
“I’ll let you know that on Thursday night, which is only 36 hours ago so the news should have got through by now, there was a by-election win in the district of Thanet in which the Labour candidate took the seat from UKIP and won it for Labour.”
On a massive 13.85% turnout, with nearly 500 votes cast, Labour walks it and Comrade Leader trumpets it from the battlements. More here -
http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/jeremy-corbyn-attack...
Are you Peter Kellner in disguise? Yeesh...
Had the result gone the other way you'd no doubt be blowing it totally out of proportion, hailing it as a sign of how disastrous Corbyn is as a leader.
And no, if it was the other way around I would not mention it for the simple reason it is totally meaningless in the context of national voting intentions. Additionally there would be no need to signify how disastrous Corbyn is as a leader. And guess why not! (Rhetorical question if you hadn't twigged).
Welshbeef said:
Surely now the momentum fans will start to realise what they think the country wants isn't what the country actually wants
No they won't. They will blame somebody or something else. The Dark Forces, Murdoch and the false consciousness of the working classes for example. Nothing is the Hard Left's fault. Ever.JawKnee said:
And of course all those people who put the 'X' in the box that said "Labour" had absolutely no opinion on the leader of the party they were voting for. None whatsoever. They probably didn't even know who he was...
All those people? Less than 300 could be arsed to get out of bed for it. 13% turnout.
If Corbyn really was 'reaching people' and 'appealing to the electorate' you could expect better numbers than that. All that result proves is people couldn't give a f
k about local politics, and that Corbyn isn't the thing that's going to get them down the polling booth.The latter is the point the entire thread has been trying to make to you for several pages. Not that it's having any effect.
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