Jeremy Corbyn

[Stickyfinger]

a couple of thousand work shy left wing radicals in Liverpool.......no st Sherlock

That can be done in Glastonbury by crying about a Badger

[technodup]

JawKnee said:

Wow. Thousands turn out in the pouring rain to support Corbyn.

In Liverpool ffs. Yet another Labour stronghold full of people with nothing better to do than stand in the rain and listen to a tramp promise them good times. What's the point? For him or them?

JawKnee said:

Can't think of any other political figure in the country who could elicit the same response.

I can think of one who will win an election though.

[Andy Zarse]

technodup said:

can think of one who will win an election though.

Is his first name Jeremy?

[johnxjsc1985]

technodup said:

can think of one who will win an election though.

my home City and if they put a Red Rosette on a Chimp they would vote for it and the irony is Labour have never lifted a finger to help the City because they don't have to.

[technodup]

Andy Zarse said:

technodup said:

can think of one who will win an election though.

Is his first name Jeremy?

Jeremy fking Vine has more chance of being PM than Corbyn. Clarkson even more again. Remember Spake? I'd vote for that fat mincer sooner than the IRA loving geriatric.

[glazbagun]

JawKnee said:

Wow. Thousands turn out in the pouring rain to support Corbyn. Can't think of any other political figure in the country who could elicit the same response.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news...

Erdogan does pretty well in his.

[schmunk]

glazbagun said:

JawKnee said:

Wow. Thousands turn out in the pouring rain to support Corbyn. Can't think of any other political figure in the country who could elicit the same response.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news...

Erdogan does pretty well in his.

I hear Putin gets the crowds in, too...

[irocfan]

By this reasoning Justin bieber is a shoe in

[silent ninja]

I think the attack on Corbyn is an attack on democracy. Senior MPs are even tabling their own leadership within the party, like a splinter group. Then they want to apply to the courts to take over the party or possibly launch a sub party. So if democracy doesn't work, a coup and dodgy legal loopholes are the answer?

Labour MPs are fundamentally making a mockery of the system. There is a rather sinister force against Corbyn. The MPs attacking him are essentially Blairites who are conservative in reality. What we had with Blair was no different to what the conservatives offer, just repackaged with left leaning slogans. Corbyn genuinely represents a shift back to the roots. Owen Smith - look at his history, he's a lobbyist for corporations and has no soul. There's nothing Labour about him, but he's clearly going to get the backing of the money men. It stinks

Whetherypu agree with corbyn politics or not, he won the right to lead. This whole thing makes a mockery of democracy and it's our so called elected leaders that are leading this.

Edited by silent ninja on Tuesday 2nd August 07:26

[Kermit power]

johnxjsc1985 said:

technodup said:

can think of one who will win an election though.

My home City and if they put a Red Rosette on a Chimp they would vote for it and the irony is Labour have never lifted a finger to help the City because they don't have to.

Liverpool is an odd place from a political perspective. If you look back to the 50s and early 60s, it was controlled by Labour. Then in the late 60s, the Conservatives took control.

From the 70s through to the 90s, it flipped from labour control to NOC, then in '98, the Lib Dems took it and held it until 2010.

In 2015, Labour obliterated the other parties, and now have 80 out of 90 councillors.

They do have a tendency to slide back to Labour, but, at council level at least, it's not really true to say they always vote Labour.

[Andy Zarse]

silent ninja said:

Labour MPs are fundamentally making a mockery of the system.

On the contrary, it's the system which is making a mockery out of Labour MPs. Thanks to the genius of good old Mr Miliband.

[Andy Zarse]

chris watton said:

JawKnee said:

Wow. Thousands turn out in the pouring rain to support Corbyn. Can't think of any other political figure in the country who could elicit the same response.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news...

Perhaps you need a trip to Venezuela to check out Corbyn's end game of his particular brand of socialism - he and his small band of sycophants were praising that country not too long ago.

You should really check it out - a true socialist utopia!

Venezuela was doing just fine until the Blairite PLP rebelled...

[Halb]

silent ninja said:

Labour MPs are fundamentally making a mockery of the system.

Nowt new for MPs of any gang.

[Johnnytheboy]

silent ninja said:

There is a rather sinister force against Corbyn.

Who is going round intimidating who? I'm obviously out of touch. I thought it was Corbyn's thugs intimidating the MP's but no doubt that's a "Red Tory" conspiracy.

silent ninja said:

The MPs attacking him are essentially Blairites who are conservative in reality.

Sorry, so the entire PLP (except Corbyn, McDonnell, Thornberry and the Abbopotamus) are conservatives?

[hidetheelephants]

silent ninja said:

The MPs attacking him are essentially Blairites who are conservative in reality.

This narrative that it's all the doing of blairites is bullst; if he can't even persuade the likes of Alexander, Murray, Nandy or even Benn to sit in his cabinet he's about as useful as a party leader as a one-legged man in an arsekicking contest.

[iphonedyou]

irocfan said:

By this reasoning Justin bieber is a shoe in

Does seem an incredibly irrational argument to make.

But then, I suppose one can't argue for Corbyn rationally.

[RYH64E]

hidetheelephants said:

This narrative that it's all the doing of blairites is bullst; if he can't even persuade the likes of Alexander, Murray, Nandy or even Benn to sit in his cabinet he's about as useful as a party leader as a one-legged man in an arsekicking contest.

Who does the Labour Party represent, it's MPs or the members? Ultimately MPs are just paid employees of the party, if they don't agree with the majority views of the party members then they're in the wrong party.

If the members want a true left wing party then they need some new MPs, I can see a lot of deselections coming once JC is confirmed as leader. Similarly, if the MPs want to represent a centre ground party with any hope of forming a government then they need to defect to the Conservatives. It's very rare that an MP is elected on his or her own merits, it's almost always the case that voters tick the Labour or Conservative box on the ballot paper. I voted for Tim Yeo year after year despite detesting the man, he got my vote because he was the Conservative candidate and for no other reason, it's the same in Labour constituencies. If MPs resign the Labour whip and continue as independants they'll have a few years of glory, but come the next election the official Labour candidate will elected in almost evry case.

I'm a die hard Conservative so have no real interest in the Labour Party, but I do accept the right of party members to have a party that truly reflects their views and aspirations, even if that party would be currently unelectable.

[johnxjsc1985]

[quote=RYH64E]

Who does the Labour Party represent, it's MPs or the members? Ultimately MPs are just paid employees of the party, if they don't agree with the majority views of the party members then they're in the wrong party.

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Corbyn the leader voted against Trident a Labour party agreed Policy. there in a complete mess the PLP want to win elections and form a Gov. The membership want to protest.

[Rovinghawk]

silent ninja said:

Whetherypu agree with corbyn politics or not, he won the right to lead. This whole thing makes a mockery of democracy and it's our so called elected leaders that are leading this.

You might be confusing the country with the PLP here.

Our elected leaders are in the Conservative party, these dudes are Labour.

[Johnnytheboy]

RYH64E said:

I'm a die hard Conservative so have no real interest in the Labour Party, but I do accept the right of party members to have a party that truly reflects their views and aspirations, even if that party would be currently unelectable.

Assuming for a moment the Tory leadership rules were as batcrap crazy as Labour's...

How would you feel if every far-right BNP/EDL/NF maniac in the UK joined the Tory Party (which currently has a tiny membership, don't forget), elected whoever the most hang-em, flog-em current Tory MP was, then started trying to remake the Tory Party in their image?

Would the incumbent MPs have any right to feel that 'their' party had been hijacked?

Or would lots of little anti-JawKnees be right in saying that said proto-fascist MP had won the leadership by an overwhelming majority, and the MPs should rally behind him, as the party sailed off into electoral oblivion?