Jeremy Corbyn

[Twilkes]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/aug...

"I hated being a member of Jeremy’s shadow cabinet – because it was entirely dysfunctional.

"It wasn’t good enough for the leader to routinely defer to his shadow chancellor when confronted with a difficult decision – a shadow chancellor who on three separate occasions undermined my efforts to agree collective positions on health matters. It wasn’t good enough for the leader to say one thing to me, only for his political secretary to phone a day later and say: “He may have said that, but I know what he really thinks.” It wasn’t good enough for the leader to read his position from a typed up script at shadow cabinet meetings discussing the prospect of military action against Isis in Syria or the EU referendum. And it wasn’t good enough that whenever he appeared on TV, his description of a process, or his analysis of a problem, ended in confusion or despair on the party’s position – article 50, counterterrorism, “7.5 out of 10” on Brexit.

I hated being part of something so inept, so unprofessional, so shoddy. There was no effort to build a team. Good people recruited to his office soon left."

Edited by Twilkes on Saturday 20th August 20:22

[Andy Zarse]

You get some great comments from the dense Corbyn worshippers. What I love about this comment is that every sentence is worse than the one preceding it.

[Gargamel]

Lets think that through.

Price of a Coalition with the SNP. Well Scottich independence of course.

Hard to maintain a coalition when your partners become one of them Foriegn Countries.

[SPS]

Lets face it - it's a bloody race to the bottom for Labour.

[Johnnytheboy]

Andy Zarse said:

You get some great comments from the dense Corbyn worshippers. What I love about this comment is that every sentence is worse than the one preceding it.

I don't get this attitude of it being important to have your off-the-political-compass views represented in opposition being better than trying to get a party you can approve of voted in to power.

[Johnnytheboy]

Twilkes said:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/aug...

That like ĺed me down a rabbit hole of guardian nonsense, I rather liked these two...

Momentum drops pledge to nonviolence...

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/aug/19/mo...

Sadiq Khan says dump Corbyn before it's too late...

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/aug/20/di...

You couldn't make this st up!

[Stickyfinger]

Johnnytheboy said:

I don't get this attitude of it being important to have your off-the-political-compass views represented in opposition being better than trying to get a party you can approve of voted in to power.

Labour plans for the future PM ?,edit that !.........sorry, opposition leader

[Smiler.]

Johnnytheboy said:

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Momentum drops pledge to nonviolence...

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/aug/19/mo...

......

Momentum are like a parody of a functioning civic organisation.

Obsessed with not getting their politically correct undergarments in a twist over irrelevant minutiae, an embodiment of the very worst of every faux religion.



And as for the AWL, I suppose it depends upon the recognised definition of the term "work".

A better title is "Alliance for Workshy Liberty".

[FN2TypeR]

Andy Zarse said:

You get some great comments from the dense Corbyn worshippers. What I love about this comment is that every sentence is worse than the one preceding it.

Working class Labour voters in England will surely fall over themselves to vote for a party willing to put the tin pot SNP into government and Galloway on a pedestal,

[jmorgan]

Smiler. said:

Johnnytheboy said:

........

Momentum drops pledge to nonviolence...

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/aug/19/mo...

......

Momentum are like a parody of a functioning civic organisation.

Obsessed with not getting their politically correct undergarments in a twist over irrelevant minutiae, an embodiment of the very worst of every faux religion.



And as for the AWL, I suppose it depends upon the recognised definition of the term "work".

A better title is "Alliance for Workshy Liberty".

They will be aligned with the NUS shortly.

[rich1231]

Was listening to LBC's James Obrien the other day, who irritates me massively however.... he had a constant stream of Corbyn cultists calling in and it was terrifying. Even Mr Obrien is critical of Corbyn and the delusion from the callers was shocking. Saying that I do often listen to Obrien, and though as far politically from his pov and annoyed by his sometime arrogance and insults aimed at anyone who doesn't share his world view some of his opinions are quite reasonable... off to have a shower now after that

[Gogoplata]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37146729

I wonder how the Corbyn supporters will take this? My Corbyn supporting friends celebrated Khan's election success as a victory for Corbyn himself, but now I guess this makes Khan a Blairite for speaking out against Corbyn.

[Halb]

Interesting position. Khan is planting his flag, he reckons Corbyn will win, but is firing off a few shots anyway.

[VolvoT5]

Can't stand Khan.... he isn't a Blairite in that he is more on the left than Blair ever was......... however he is very much in Blair / Cameron mould in that he would say anything to please his audience even if it contradicted something he said to someone else 24 hours ago. He is a very slippery character indeed, even by the standards of modern politicians.

[davepoth]

Halb said:

Interesting position. Khan is planting his flag, he reckons Corbyn will win, but is firing off a few shots anyway.

He's one of very few labour politicians who is genuinely secure in their position. He's saying what everyone else is too scared to say.

[Vaud]

davepoth said:

He's one of very few labour politicians who is genuinely secure in their position. He's saying what everyone else is too scared to say.

I'm not actually clear on what he is saying. I know he says that (almost) everything the throes have done is bad (and new labour)... But I'm not that clear on his immediate policies (and funding of policies) if there was an election tomorrow.

[AAGR]

Changing the subject slightly - how can it be that none of what some people call the established 'Labour Big Beasts' - Ed Balls, Yvette Cooper, Alan Johnson, Chukka whatsit, Gordon Brown, etc - don't seem to have had anything useful (or audible, even) to say in recent months ?

Or am I missing something ?

[Stickyfinger]

AAGR said:

'Labour Big Beasts' - Ed Balls, Yvette Cooper, Alan Johnson, Chukka whatsit, Gordon Brown, etc

HAHAHA, best laugh for ages, thanks

[Vaud]

Stickyfinger said:

AAGR said:

'Labour Big Beasts' - Ed Balls, Yvette Cooper, Alan Johnson, Chukka whatsit, Gordon Brown, etc

HAHAHA, best laugh for ages, thanks

I think it is fair to ask. They have experience in power, for better of for worse.

Opposition is easy compared to being in power. I don't agree with all of their policies (though let's face it Brown did us a great favour and was very smart re: the Euro)... But they have been strangely silent.

[Stickyfinger]

Vaud said:

though let's face it Brown did us a great favour and was very smart

It just gets better, your on fire tonight ....hahahaha