Jeremy Corbyn

[Jockman]

RYH64E said:

Does anyone think that they actually relocated a family to free up seats for JC and his entourage? In the photos there looked to be plenty of free seats available without any need for upgrades.

According to the BBC last night, yes they did. It even showed them moving.

[Clivey]

Vandenberg said:

Apparently its a zionist conspiracy, the train was full of mossad agents moving Reserved cards and changing seats.

Please do post that in a Guardian article comments section!

[johnxjsc1985]

Clivey said:

Please do post that in a Guardian article comments section!

please don't the poor sods are confused enough already

[hornetrider]

Another snippet from the Guardian blog:

I’ve been talking to people in coach C. Susan is heading to Newcastle to visit her sister. She says she has been using this train for 25 years and has never once failed to get a seat.

[hornetrider]

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Indeed. The general rule is the ad hominem only starts when the argument has been lost.

[anonymous-user]

johnxjsc1985 said:

please don't the poor sods are confused enough already

I won't, my wife has told me not to play in the guardian comments/stormfront/MSE forums/ any more.

[AllTorque]

AJL308 said:

Jeremy Corbyn does exactly what Jeremy Corbyn likes, whenever Jeremy Corbyn likes with no consideration given anyone else or even whether what he wants to do is right.

Absolute total agreement on this. The guy is (as you say in another post) a complete leftie narcissist, putting on a 'nice guy' persona. It's a joke. We'd all love to live in a utopia, but it ain't gonna happen! I don't hear him talking about his £1million pension pot much either after 30 years in the Commons...

[Toaster]

AllTorque said:

Absolute total agreement on this. The guy is (as you say in another post) a complete leftie narcissist, putting on a 'nice guy' persona. It's a joke. We'd all love to live in a utopia, but it ain't gonna happen! I don't hear him talking about his £1million pension pot much either after 30 years in the Commons...

You don't hear much of Nigel Farage's EU pension in addition to his other ones

[Toaster]

andy_s said:

In initial comments from Virgin there were 'unreserved' seats that he walked past.

I'm not sure what Carl Jung's got to do with it - are you saying Corbyn mis-judged...?

I'm sure the underlying issues are real - but a. it's hardly the most pressing issue to face our country and b. it wouldn't be solved by nationalisation, even if it could be afforded (British Rail?) and c. is over-egging the pudding going to help?

I'm sure he does want to improve the lives of others, but evidently only in a socialist orientated way...don't think the philanthropy is unencumbered by socialist dogmatism.

If you look at the photo evidence those seats were reserved, if they are not going to be used Virgin should take the tickets out, when I find someone sitting in a seat I have reserved I ask politely if they can move and some people can be real Arses with there responses.

Oh and Yes Corbyn could be being miss-judged the biased press may have something to do with that

I think you will find privatised rail isn't working either, there has to be another way and not one where 'profits' go to inflated CEO, Board and shareholder banks but to the users of the networks in terms of punctuality and availability of both trains and seats

[hidetheelephants]

Halb said:

AJL308 said:

I assume that it's because he's got some arrogant philosophical objection to 1st class but isn't that just a bullst reason? Surely he wants the workers in the place of the wealthy. That's his whole philosophy for nationalising the bloody trains - surely???

It would go on expenses, so it would be saving the taxpayer money?

It wouldn't as he was travelling to Newcastle to attend hustings, which is party business; perhaps eligible for party expenses if such things exist, but not parliamentary expenses.

[Slaav]

Toaster said:

If you look at the photo evidence those seats were reserved, if they are not going to be used Virgin should take the tickets out, when I find someone sitting in a seat I have reserved I ask politely if they can move and some people can be real Arses with there responses.

Oh and Yes Corbyn could be being miss-judged the biased press may have something to do with that

I think you will find privatised rail isn't working either, there has to be another way and not one where 'profits' go to inflated CEO, Board and shareholder banks but to the users of the networks in terms of punctuality and availability of both trains and seats

I wouldn't describe myself as a seasoned rail user so take this with a slight pinch of salt but if I know this stuff, then surely the great wise commuters and regular users do??

A) Just look at the reservation slips if you cannot find a seat and work out which ones are 'free' - this has never failed.
B) Just book a friggin seat!!! Not hard and not complicated - especially if you are going to pre arranged meetings.
C) If you have made reservations on train XYZ, don't be all indignant when you get on train ABC and cannot find 2/3 or 4 seats together - really???
D) Does anybody really expect any service to run with enough spare capacity to be able to seat (in this case) groups together IN CASE THEY TURN UP??? With no seat reservations? FFS

and above all;

E) If some selfish pr**k has a bag/laptop/coat spread across a seat beside them and you cant find one - MOVE THE fkING BAG!!!!! politely.

You sir, are either incredibly dim or exceedingly naive.... (In my opinion)

Not meant to be aggressive even though that last comment may appears as such!

[Halb]

hidetheelephants said:

It wouldn't as he was travelling to Newcastle to attend hustings, which is party business; perhaps eligible for party expenses if such things exist, but not parliamentary expenses.

I was wondering.
But it was a 'free' upgrade mentioned above, regardless.
Yes, Minister started this week.

[bobbylondonuk]

Politician tried to play the game by 'creating' an incident and generating publicity via social media. Nothing wrong in that....all is fair in war!

Politician gets caught out....fall on your own sword and die OR spin your way out of it.

Corbyn is an idiot who couldnt play this game on his own and he has a team of volunteer players that would not get picked elsewhere. So he ends up looking a clown! Cant die or spin out of it....stuck in perpetual moronland!

end of story!

[Welshbeef]

Toaster said:

AllTorque said:

Absolute total agreement on this. The guy is (as you say in another post) a complete leftie narcissist, putting on a 'nice guy' persona. It's a joke. We'd all love to live in a utopia, but it ain't gonna happen! I don't hear him talking about his £1million pension pot much either after 30 years in the Commons...

You don't hear much of Nigel Farage's EU pension in addition to his other ones

What you mean pensions from jobs he has worked in?

Jeremy lied on his published self assessment
He only put down his Labour leaders salary
Missed off state pension
Missed off MPs pension
Missed off his civil servant pension.

Which turns his c£880k a year income into near £140k. Now if I miss off of my self assessment massive parts of my income I get fined and a detailed 7 year tax investigation plus jail.

You don't hear much about that do you - why is this?

[RYH64E]

Jockman said:

RYH64E said:

Does anyone think that they actually relocated a family to free up seats for JC and his entourage? In the photos there looked to be plenty of free seats available without any need for upgrades.

According to the BBC last night, yes they did. It even showed them moving.

The story I read was that they walked past the empty seats, took the photo opportunity on the floor, then walked back and sat in the same empty seats they'd passed earlier.

[P5BNij]

Toaster said:

I think you will find privatised rail isn't working either...

As someone who works on the railway I can tell you that it is working, it's not perfect but by and large it does work. We've seen more investment in the last decade than the previous two or three. Privatisation worked very well for the 'Big Four' before 1948, the main reason for nationalisation in that year was that the railway as a whole had been broken by the War.

[Jockman]

RYH64E said:

Jockman said:

RYH64E said:

Does anyone think that they actually relocated a family to free up seats for JC and his entourage? In the photos there looked to be plenty of free seats available without any need for upgrades.

According to the BBC last night, yes they did. It even showed them moving.

The story I read was that they walked past the empty seats, took the photo opportunity on the floor, then walked back and sat in the same empty seats they'd passed earlier.

That's correct, but there weren't enough seats (according to the CCTV footage). The still showing Corbyn sitting has the head of one of those moved at the bottom of it.

[schmunk]

Welshbeef said:

Jeremy lied on his published self assessment
He only put down his Labour leaders salary
Missed off state pension
Missed off MPs pension
Missed off his civil servant pension.

Which turns his c£880k a year income into near £140k.

Are you sure about those figures...?

[Ganglandboss]

andy_s said:

Halb said:

AJL308 said:

I assume that it's because he's got some arrogant philosophical objection to 1st class but isn't that just a bullst reason? Surely he wants the workers in the place of the wealthy. That's his whole philosophy for nationalising the bloody trains - surely???

It would go on expenses, so it would be saving the taxpayer money?

It was a free upgrade.

To get around the dogmatism they had to upgrade a family so Jez could sit down with a clear conscience. If he'd only offered that up himself he could at least have been credited with some sort of gentlemanly conduct.

And he was going to a party leadership hustings, so no part of the cost could have been claimed on parliamentary expenses anyway.

[The Hypno-Toad]

AJL308 said:

This guy just keeps fking up his excuses.

Indeed he does.

Joesfs advisors yesterday: "We don't know where this story came from that he was looking for a seat for both himself and his wife but it wasn't from us,"

Joesf today: "I was looking for a seat for myself and my wife....."

This is literally a train wreck. If Beardy Branson wants to he could destroy Corbyn with this but I'm guessing he won't for business reasons. The Conservatives and UKIP however, will have this file for the next election and bring it out a every available opportunity, especially the clip from today's terrible press conference.

And for everyone asking why he didn't just ask people to move, as I have mentioned before he is a left wing intellectual & despite claiming to represent the common man they REALLY don't like actually conversing with them. This is also the reason why he acted like he did today when someone dare suggest he is wrong.

The man is a sad, pathetic, very bitter old man and I wish that rather than waiting until the election, someone would release his MI5/MI6 file which I'm sure will cast some very interesting light on his relationship with the USSR during 80's and put us all out of our misery.

Edited by The Hypno-Toad on Wednesday 24th August 14:12