Jeremy Corbyn

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Tycho

11,581 posts

273 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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hidetheelephants said:
Halb said:
AJL308 said:
I assume that it's because he's got some arrogant philosophical objection to 1st class but isn't that just a bullst reason? Surely he wants the workers in the place of the wealthy. That's his whole philosophy for nationalising the bloody trains - surely???
It would go on expenses, so it would be saving the taxpayer money?
It wouldn't as he was travelling to Newcastle to attend hustings, which is party business; perhaps eligible for party expenses if such things exist, but not parliamentary expenses.
Wasn't his original excuse for not travelling first class that he didn't want to waste tax payers money? Another BS excuse.

nc107

464 posts

208 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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The Hypno-Toad said:
....despite claiming to represent the common man they REALLY don't like actually conversing with them.....
I think this is his (and his "team"s) biggest problem... they claim to represent the "working class" but they don't actually like what the working class say or think. Quite the conundrum for him.

KTF

9,804 posts

150 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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Nice analysis of the events from PR Week: http://www.prweek.com/article/1406708/traingate-co...

PR Week said:
"You’ll get Corbyn supporters saying he was right, you’ll get anti-Corbyn people saying no he is wrong, but what Virgin Trains has done is create doubt – there is now not the historical fact that Corbyn was sitting on the floor becuase there weren’t enough seats," he said, adding that this had "destroyed the credibility" of any Corbyn, union or Labour attempt to use that incident as proof of a need to re-nationalise rail services.

Jockman

17,917 posts

160 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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schmunk said:
Welshbeef said:
Jeremy lied on his published self assessment
He only put down his Labour leaders salary
Missed off state pension
Missed off MPs pension
Missed off his civil servant pension.

Which turns his c£880k a year income into near £140k.
scratchchin

Are you sure about those figures...?
I'm guessing sausage fingers.....beefy Welsh ones.....

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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Corbyn - laughable, thick, bell end. That is all. It does raise an interesting question about all these reserved seats though. I recently got the Market Harborough to St Pancras 4 times off peak in the space of a week, in both directions, almost all the seats were reserved and empty and there was almost no one on the train...WTF?

Mark Benson

7,513 posts

269 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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fblm said:
Corbyn - laughable, thick, bell end. That is all. It does raise an interesting question about all these reserved seats though. I recently got the Market Harborough to St Pancras 4 times off peak in the space of a week, in both directions, almost all the seats were reserved and empty and there was almost no one on the train...WTF?
It costs nothing to reserve a seat and you're encouraged to do so when you book online. I always do when I travel down to London for work, however I often don't take the train I'm reserved on as meetings sometimes end earlier or later than expected, so I take the next available train and look for an unbooked seat.

Or sit on the floor and chat to passing film crews.

irocfan

40,421 posts

190 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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Vandenberg said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
please don't the poor sods are confused enough already
I won't, my wife has told me not to play in the guardian comments/stormfront/MSE forums/ any more.
you could always have fun on the huffington post articles - they make the gruan seem rational

Andy Zarse

10,868 posts

247 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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irocfan said:
Vandenberg said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
please don't the poor sods are confused enough already
I won't, my wife has told me not to play in the guardian comments/stormfront/MSE forums/ any more.
you could always have fun on the huffington post articles - they make the gruan seem rational
HuffPo; a proper left wing media outlet for real socialists who don't want their media from outlets owned by billionaries or to be "ram packed" (copyright J Corbyn) with half-clad birds and celebrity drivel.

Oh wait etc...

wobert

5,039 posts

222 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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The Hypno-Toad said:
This is also the reason why he acted like he did today when someone dare suggest he is wrong.
Edited by The Hypno-Toad on Wednesday 24th August 14:12
His condescending tone is really not a great trait to have.

If, when he was first asked the question, he had reacted and said that he wanted to clear the "misunderstanding" up, then that's one thing.

The fact that he made a big deal of it, labouring his point about the NHS, and then retreating, shows he is unable to think on his feet and think about how he comes over to the public.

In reality, he should have been briefed prior to the press conference and allowed the question patiently.

That brings me onto a second point - he was struggling to control his temper, you can see it in his eyes, internal rage. Again not a great trait to have.

The guy is a complete knob.....

KTF

9,804 posts

150 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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Yes, he did seem somewhat surprised when the media were more keen to ask him about traingate rather than the NHS.

Was he really daft enough to think that they would stick to the topic in hand?

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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irocfan said:
you could always have fun on the huffington post articles - they make the gruan seem rational
Well she didn't tell me not to play on huff post type


Toaster

2,938 posts

193 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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Slaav said:
I wouldn't describe myself as a seasoned rail user so take this with a slight pinch of salt but if I know this stuff, then surely the great wise commuters and regular users do??
Opinions are like belly buttons.......everyone has one, except read the press and 'independent' regular rail users will tell you at times it is so difficult to get a seat, if you are on the tube at times its impossible to get on at certain stations.

Try traveling from Birmingham to London at around 16:30 - 18:30 I feel sorry for regular users (Daily travel) as they have an awful job getting a seat the carries are packed

Register1

2,139 posts

94 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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Smollet said:
Suffice it to say I suspect Mr Branson has done more for this country and economy that any Labour Party has ever achieved in a positive sense although I doubt Corbyn will ever recognise that.
here, here +1

Register1

2,139 posts

94 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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jet_noise said:
KTF said:
Didnt take long:

Arf
Brilliant

Sway

26,256 posts

194 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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Toaster said:
Opinions are like belly buttons.......everyone has one, except read the press and 'independent' regular rail users will tell you at times it is so difficult to get a seat, if you are on the tube at times its impossible to get on at certain stations.

Try traveling from Birmingham to London at around 16:30 - 18:30 I feel sorry for regular users (Daily travel) as they have an awful job getting a seat the carries are packed
So what's your proposal, specifically how will nationalisation fix the issue?

After all, the private operators are clearly deterring high ticket price customers who will avoid peak runs.

The lines are running at full capacity.

The trains are as high capacity as possible.

What exactly will the rhetoric solve?

AJL308

6,390 posts

156 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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Toaster said:
If you look at the photo evidence those seats were reserved, if they are not going to be used Virgin should take the tickets out, when I find someone sitting in a seat I have reserved I ask politely if they can move and some people can be real Arses with there responses.

Oh and Yes Corbyn could be being miss-judged the biased press may have something to do with that

I think you will find privatised rail isn't working either, there has to be another way and not one where 'profits' go to inflated CEO, Board and shareholder banks but to the users of the networks in terms of punctuality and availability of both trains and seats
As has been pointed out many times on this thread; Virgin have stated unambiguously that he walked past empty, unreserved seats prior to sitting on the floor.

Someone is lying here and I doubt it is Virgin if they have released video evidence to back up their statement.

RYH64E

7,960 posts

244 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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Toaster said:
Opinions are like belly buttons.......everyone has one, except read the press and 'independent' regular rail users will tell you at times it is so difficult to get a seat, if you are on the tube at times its impossible to get on at certain stations.

Try traveling from Birmingham to London at around 16:30 - 18:30 I feel sorry for regular users (Daily travel) as they have an awful job getting a seat the carries are packed
True, but it just goes to show the stupidity of the man when he chooses one of the few 'not-rammed' trains for his 'rammed-train' photo opportunity. Anything during morning or afternoon rush hour would have worked, but rather than take the easy option he boards a mid-morning train and has to get all creative with the truth.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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RYH64E said:
True, but it just goes to show the stupidity of the man when he chooses one of the few 'not-rammed' trains for his 'rammed-train' photo opportunity. Anything during morning or afternoon rush hour would have worked, but rather than take the easy option he boards a mid-morning train and has to get all creative with the truth.
Dumb as a fvcking rock. Hey you don't go to one of the best schools in the country and get 2 E's without being a bit special!

FGB

312 posts

92 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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The press are doing us no favours in pointing out what a tool this prick is.

At this rate the dumb as fk labour members might realise it and not elect him again !

AJL308

6,390 posts

156 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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wobert said:
The Hypno-Toad said:
This is also the reason why he acted like he did today when someone dare suggest he is wrong.
Edited by The Hypno-Toad on Wednesday 24th August 14:12
His condescending tone is really not a great trait to have.

If, when he was first asked the question, he had reacted and said that he wanted to clear the "misunderstanding" up, then that's one thing.

The fact that he made a big deal of it, labouring his point about the NHS, and then retreating, shows he is unable to think on his feet and think about how he comes over to the public.

In reality, he should have been briefed prior to the press conference and allowed the question patiently.

That brings me onto a second point - he was struggling to control his temper, you can see it in his eyes, internal rage. Again not a great trait to have.

The guy is a complete knob.....
Been pointed out numerous times on this thread. He couldn't control him self in the Channel 4 interview - yes the interviewer was being a dick but that's not the point; He tried to lamp a journalist at an event the other week for daring to ask a question of him. He actually had to be physically restrained by his "crew". Now this. And there will be others in future.

He is an exceptionally dangerous, unhinged, narcissistic lunatic who really needs to be kicked into touch sharpish. I genuinely fear for the safety and security of this country if he ever gets near power.

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