Jeremy Corbyn

[AJL308]

FGB said:

The press are doing us no favours in pointing out what a tool this prick is.

At this rate the dumb as fk labour members might realise it and not elect him again !

Much as I dislike the Labour party I really cannot stand to see the official opposition being run by such a dangerous individual. The thought of him becoming PM is truly terrifying.

[FGB]

AJL308 said:

FGB said:

The press are doing us no favours in pointing out what a tool this prick is.

At this rate the dumb as fk labour members might realise it and not elect him again !

Much as I dislike the Labour party I really cannot stand to see the official opposition being run by such a dangerous individual. The thought of him becoming PM is truly terrifying.

Don't worry - if he's re-elected the Labour Party will implode and split into at least 2 other parties !

Of course the official opposition will then become the SNP !!!!!

[number 46]

fblm said:

Dumb as a fvcking rock. Hey you don't go to one of the best schools in the country and get 2 E's without being a bit special!

It is quite revealing when you look at his career/further education as to why he so fking useless, he was a Harringey councillor in the 70's, they were absolutely st at everything they touched!!! He organised Tony Benns leadership campaign !!!!! It just shows you how fking stupid people are to actually think that after 40 odd years being st at everything, this mediocrity is suitable to lead the Labour party, let only be Prime Minister!!!!!

[Welshbeef]

Sway said:

So what's your proposal, specifically how will nationalisation fix the issue?

After all, the private operators are clearly deterring high ticket price customers who will avoid peak runs.

The lines are running at full capacity.

The trains are as high capacity as possible.

What exactly will the rhetoric solve?

If JC does have a genuine option which will fix this overcrowding why not share? Even as opposition you can and should be pushing the govt with viable options (heck if it's great well maybe he isn't quite the ftard we think he is).



Peak hour trains are full.
My experience is Reading to Paddington weekday if you catch the 6:30am you should get a seat but not always, thereafter it's cramped in. If you had more earlier trains ie 5.25am etc the issue is you'd be in central London comfortably by what 6:10am ish. Office physically locked down and say doesn't open until 7am or later what do you do?
You cannot have kids / families going on peak trains with prams and tantrums etc it isn't fair on those paying £5k a year v a one off trip.
There is more capacity pre peak and post peak so you set the pricing to encourage more to travel off peak - issue is for me if I waited until the next train after 9:30am it's the 9:45/9:50am I'd physically not be in the office until 11am probably later as the tubes run less frequently outside peak hours.

Paddington has what 15 platforms trains are going in and out every few mins and you cannot "overtake" an earlier train.

Double decker trains not possible due to lower bridges but now also the electrification of that line again too low.

Longer trains - well in Paddington an intercity covers the whole length and it's 8 carridges.


Clear option
1. Scrap buffet car and switch to fully seated economy.
2. People say about 1st class not being that full so review it and then possibly switch another carridge to economy. I guess you could scrap first altogether - but if your working properly on a train I find it very difficult in economy so having that option allows business meetings and work as you travel. (Higher productivity).

HS2 is decades away

I think the whole issue he has is it's making a profit so that could go "into upgrading the service"

[Halb]

I think more flexi-time, less rigid adherence to the old 9-5, improving ADSL speeds and other avenues would be beneficial, since the UK is stuck with a Victorian system, it should endeavour to move away from a Victorian mindset.

[Europa1]

AJL308 said:

shakotan said:

His latest defense makes no sense at all...

"There were empty seats but not two together so I couldn't sit next to my wife..."

So instead of sitting apart from your wife on two separate seats, you STILL sit apart from your wife, but decide to sit on the floor and make a video about it?!

I guess "Boo-hoo, look at the state of the trains, I can't sit next to my wife, instead I'm two rows back and on the other side of the aisle" doesn't have quite the same ring to it.

What a monumentally pathetic excuse! So, he can't sit next to his wife so he acts (even more) like a five year-old and has a huffy strop in the corner! What a total fking nobber.

It would be bad enough if that were actually true - it isn't, of course, he just made it up to cover his arse. He got on the train with the intention of making a video about how crap private sector transport is (in his opinion) and was intent on doing just that. He is a narcissistic crack-pot who cannot accept that he cannot have his own way all the time.

Jeremy Corbyn does exactly what Jeremy Corbyn likes, whenever Jeremy Corbyn likes with no consideration given anyone else or even whether what he wants to do is right. He reminds me of Martin Sheen's character of the US president in The Dead Zone: "The missiles are flying gentlemen!". I really do hope to Christ that he never gets into Government or we are Royaly fked.

I'm sure in one of the stills if him getting into a seat the one next to it is empty, so his wife could have sat down next to him. I didn't rate the bloke before, but he's now definitely filed under "don't piss on even if on fire".

[Sway]

fblm said:

RYH64E said:

True, but it just goes to show the stupidity of the man when he chooses one of the few 'not-rammed' trains for his 'rammed-train' photo opportunity. Anything during morning or afternoon rush hour would have worked, but rather than take the easy option he boards a mid-morning train and has to get all creative with the truth.

Dumb as a fvcking rock. Hey you don't go to one of the best schools in the country and get 2 E's without being a bit special!

It's not his fault - it's the train companies.

If only they would let passengers know which times typically experience peak usage, glorious leader Jeremy would have caught the right train.

[bodhi]

Sway said:

Toaster said:

Opinions are like belly buttons.......everyone has one, except read the press and 'independent' regular rail users will tell you at times it is so difficult to get a seat, if you are on the tube at times its impossible to get on at certain stations.

Try traveling from Birmingham to London at around 16:30 - 18:30 I feel sorry for regular users (Daily travel) as they have an awful job getting a seat the carries are packed

So what's your proposal, specifically how will nationalisation fix the issue?

After all, the private operators are clearly deterring high ticket price customers who will avoid peak runs.

The lines are running at full capacity.

The trains are as high capacity as possible.

What exactly will the rhetoric solve?

It strikes me that if people are regularly commuting from London to Birmingham, they would be well served by some sort of dedicated link between the two, maybe one that carries on to other destinations up North as well?

[Welshbeef]

Halb said:

I think more flexi-time, less rigid adherence to the old 9-5, improving ADSL speeds and other avenues would be beneficial, since the UK is stuck with a Victorian system, it should endeavour to move away from a Victorian mindset.

Not easy to achieve.

You need people in for core hours so meetings can be planned otherwise you have a situation where you need a meeting but everyone is not there. Basically you have less productive hours in a day.

I tried a setup before would arrive for 7am and leave 4pm sharp to avoid the traffic. Problem was meetings always dragged on and countless were planned for that time so it's unworkable - I tried it for 6 months


Also your forgetting about school hours and need to drop them off and pick up at strict times how do you mitigate that?



It's great in theory but practically it's a non starter.



Also for me to drive into central London is simply impossible it would be hell replicated for so many other countless commuters.

[Halb]

Welshbeef said:

Not easy to achieve.

You need people in for core hours so meetings can be planned otherwise you have a situation where you need a meeting but everyone is not there. Basically you have less productive hours in a day.

I tried a setup before would arrive for 7am and leave 4pm sharp to avoid the traffic. Problem was meetings always dragged on and countless were planned for that time so it's unworkable - I tried it for 6 months


Also your forgetting about school hours and need to drop them off and pick up at strict times how do you mitigate that?



It's great in theory but practically it's a non starter.



Also for me to drive into central London is simply impossible it would be hell replicated for so many other countless commuters.

It's slowly happening around the place, so it's not a 'non-starter', but it is clearly not a panacea.
Just one of many variables that should be taken consideration of.

[Welshbeef]

Halb said:

It's slowly happening around the place, so it's not a 'non-starter', but it is clearly not a panacea.
Just one of many variables that should be taken consideration of.

As far as can see in London most beast Mon- Thurs then work from home of Friday.


It will be a very long time before large volumes of people stop commuting + of course we have ever growing population so even if you could draw a line in the sand now that would mean effectively every new employee works from home.


What we need is answers now - none are coming and timescales for doing anything is decades away heck many here will be retired and never see this new world.

London is too costly to live in those people have moved to commuter belts adding to the capacity.


Would it be possible at all to fit seats above what there currently is maybe adding 50% to the capacity of the trains? But then what is the weight limit for trains? Seats in like that could happen quickly - all relative.

[KTF]

Welshbeef said:

Would it be possible at all to fit seats above what there currently is maybe adding 50% to the capacity of the trains?

Most carriages don't have much in the way of headroom for a 'normal' person so where are you planning to find the space for a second row of seats?

[number 46]

Maybe we could have 3rd Class seating on the roof of the trains??!!! The Useless Idiot would like that, as he could sit and crouch on the roof when going under bridges!!???

[Welshbeef]

KTF said:

Welshbeef said:

Would it be possible at all to fit seats above what there currently is maybe adding 50% to the capacity of the trains?

Most carriages don't have much in the way of headroom for a 'normal' person so where are you planning to find the space for a second row of seats?

Easy Lower the floor to allow for it.

We need new trains anyway so let's ask the engineers how they can increase an intercity from 800 seated 8 carridges to let's say at least 1,200 seated

[Welshbeef]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/aug...


Am I right in thinking the labour govt wouldn't actually buy back the franchises at fair market value instead allow the franchise to run its course and lapse then not reissue a licence to them




How much £ did the govt get in from the train operators ? I'm sure there was an upfront payment or some sort of gain share/profit share setup which already goes into helping the needy of the country.

[davepoth]

Welshbeef said:

KTF said:

Welshbeef said:

Would it be possible at all to fit seats above what there currently is maybe adding 50% to the capacity of the trains?

Most carriages don't have much in the way of headroom for a 'normal' person so where are you planning to find the space for a second row of seats?

Easy Lower the floor to allow for it.

We need new trains anyway so let's ask the engineers how they can increase an intercity from 800 seated 8 carridges to let's say at least 1,200 seated

The UK loading gauge is too tight for double decker trains - you'd need to lower the trackbed and raise the bridges (probably a combination of the two) on any line you wanted to run them on.

[anonymous-user]

Right wing fascist lies being posted by Right wing fascists on a fascist right hand drive forum populated by paid right wing fascists. You should all be ashamed of yourself #Jeza4eva

[KarlMac]

TOCs are currently reducing kitchen sizes to.be replaced with seats (from memory I think its the Class 465 + 221/221?). The main problem with seat numbers is that you are massively restricted by PRM regulations, so any gains are lost because of UAT and aisle widths.

Longer trains are in place where platforms allow

The main issue is what you do with the units/staff for the other 20hours a day they aren't needed.

Also, trains (both purchase and running) are really, really expensive. Most upgrades / changes have to be done when overhauls are due, which have 5-10 year intervals.

Believe it or not TOCs genuinely care about public opinion and journey quality. They want you to choose the train. They were throwing money at the Class 321 upgrade project to improve commuter experience

[Welshbeef]

How much was the inter city 125 derv units? What was their expected life - didn't they commence in the late 1960's? Still going



I believe Hitachi units are coming to the Reading to Paddington line soon ish and then those old derv 125's can go elsewhere in the country to replace older rolling stock.

[P5BNij]

Welshbeef said:

How much was the inter city 125 derv units? What was their expected life - didn't they commence in the late 1960's? Still going



I believe Hitachi units are coming to the Reading to Paddington line soon ish and then those old derv 125's can go elsewhere in the country to replace older rolling stock.

The HST / 125 entered service in '76 'beef. In recent years the entire fleet has been re-engined