Jeremy Corbyn

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alock

4,227 posts

211 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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AstonZagato said:
The evidence is there for all to see. Corbyn is currently leading Labour to defeat.
I think this is what lots of his supporters would actually prefer. It's the same as the militant union activist who protests against something just because they want to protest against something. There's a type of person who always wants to complain about how others are trying to solve problems without offering any practical solution themselves.

I have a couple of work colleagues like this. They do nothing but complain when new products aren't perfectly to their liking so we try to get them involved in the next generation of products. They then fail to help in any meaningful way and just delay the project.

These people won't admit it to themselves, but they actually prefer not being responsible so they can just complain afterwards.

Toaster

2,938 posts

193 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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Crafty_ said:
Your link is from March, a lot has happened since then, including 170 Labour MPs making a vote of no confidence in your man. If you and your socialist friends continue to put your fingers in your ears and do the "not listening" routine you are in for a rather large shock.
Your assuming I am a socialist, not listening and in for a shock maybe all of what you said is true maybe it isn't. What I will say to what I have seen is that Corbyn has attracted more members to join the Labour Party the the others have done.

So if 84% of Local labour parties are in favour of Corbyn so thats 285 constituencies compared to 53 for Smith something isn't right with all the negative Corbyn stories, are you not even a little bit curious as to why? and it can't be they are all far lefties.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/aug/15/je... (link dated 15th August)

Crafty_

13,279 posts

200 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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You keep on about more members, you do realise that many of them are tory suporters, joining to get a vote and keeping your man and the party exactly where they are instead of finding someone credible to run the party and therefore pose a threat ?

The rest are lefties.

Aside from that, maybe you can tell us why you support him ? Do you support the terrorist groups he associates with and takes money from ? wish to ignore the good people of the Falkland islands ? believe his 500bn promise is even vaguely possible ?

I honestly can not see any logical reason for supporting him.

cwis

1,158 posts

179 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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Tell the truth (but have a viewpoint opposed to the Labour leadership) and prepare to be punished!

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/aug/28/j...

How anywhere outside his head did he think saying that was a good idea? Dissent will be crushed! Power to the people! Seize the means of production!

I have to say, hand on my heart, these are exactly the sort of people I would like to see in positions of power. Not.

ellroy

7,027 posts

225 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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But it was a good idea to say it. He just wasn't speaking to you.

He's preaching to the choir, what the elctorate think, anyone with a more critical view of him and his boss? Them he couldn't give a toss about.

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

198 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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AstonZagato said:
You sir, are either a most amusing spoof account or sadly deluded.
Toaster is one of those people who just like arguing for the sake of it, especially if he can wind others up in doing so. Have a peak in the science forum where he mostly seems to follow Eric around, making snide comments.
I was entirely unsurprised to see him cheerleading for Corbyn.

bitchstewie

51,115 posts

210 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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I think his Branson comments are ill-times if nothing else as it comes across as spiteful and vindictive and purely down to the Virgin sage.

Funny thing is from time to time Corbyn and McDonnell say stuff that I can find myself agreeing with, but it seems clear that they are both rather unpleasant and vindictive should you dare to question them or disagree.

AstonZagato

12,698 posts

210 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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Toaster said:
AstonZagato said:
A poll from March? Really?

His approval ratings have sunk since then.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/yougov-poll-labour-c...
Indeed they have and the same for the Conservatives as well according to your graph
But the gap has grown.

You are now just trolling.

Hoofy

76,341 posts

282 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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I'm hearing a lot about Smith vs Corbin at the moment.

"I'll do this for education."
"Well, I'll do this + 1."
"Well, I'll do this + 2."

Surely, Smith should say, "If you want Tories to be in office for another term, vote Corbin."

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

186 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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cwis said:
Tell the truth (but have a viewpoint opposed to the Labour leadership) and prepare to be punished!

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/aug/28/j...

How anywhere outside his head did he think saying that was a good idea? Dissent will be crushed! Power to the people! Seize the means of production!

I have to say, hand on my heart, these are exactly the sort of people I would like to see in positions of power. Not.
Genius. Make an enemy of Richard Branson.

The kind of business leader that Labour at one time would have courted. If you think Branson is the unacceptable face of capitalism, you're going to struggle to find any acceptable face.

LordLoveLength

1,920 posts

130 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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Johnnytheboy said:
Genius. Make an enemy of Richard Branson.
McDonnell joining in now to defend the honour of the great leader....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37208527

Why don't they spend their time on creating and publicising their policies instead?
Oh yes, they don't have any....

Gogoplata

1,266 posts

160 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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LordLoveLength said:
Johnnytheboy said:
Genius. Make an enemy of Richard Branson.
McDonnell joining in now to defend the honour of the great leader....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37208527

Why don't they spend their time on creating and publicising their policies instead?
Oh yes, they don't have any....
"Kinder Politics"

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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So let's get this straight McDonnell and by default Corbyn now want anyone with an Honour who no longer lives in the UK for whatever reason that award is to be removed.

Hmm

Or does this new non labour policy just his view only apply to those who have some cash.

bitchstewie

51,115 posts

210 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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Welshbeef said:
So let's get this straight McDonnell and by default Corbyn now want anyone with an Honour who no longer lives in the UK for whatever reason that award is to be removed.
No not anyone, just if you annoy Corbyn.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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bhstewie said:
Welshbeef said:
So let's get this straight McDonnell and by default Corbyn now want anyone with an Honour who no longer lives in the UK for whatever reason that award is to be removed.
No not anyone, just if you annoy Corbyn.
I really hope McDonnell holds a press conference soon so that his position can be clarified. Also that is online with Labour policy/if not that it will be voted upon in the forthcoming conference to verify it

P5BNij

15,875 posts

106 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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LordLoveLength said:
Johnnytheboy said:
Genius. Make an enemy of Richard Branson.
McDonnell joining in now to defend the honour of the great leader....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37208527

Why don't they spend their time on creating and publicising their policies instead?
Oh yes, they don't have any....
It boils down to the politics of envy, much as it always does with the hard left. A bizarre state of mind considering how many of them are millionaires themselves. How the f*ck can it be a 'kinder politics' if all they can muster is the pointless but deep rooted desire to bring everyone down to their level, rather than inspire and help the downtrodden to aspire to a better, more prosperous life...?

technodup

7,580 posts

130 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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Toaster said:
Indeed they have and the same for the Conservatives as well according to your graph
The Conservatives are the incumbents and have a significant advantage because of it. It's much harder to have people vote for change than more of the same, which is why Brexit was unexpected.

Now when the change means rolling back 40 years to a time of strikes, bailouts and British Rail sandwiches all funded by other people's money you can see why Corby will never be PM.

By going after the like of Branson, who by all accounts is one of the good guys and has probably paid more tax than the PLP combined... fk it, I give up.

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

186 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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technodup said:
By going after the like of Branson, who by all accounts is one of the good guys and has probably paid more tax than the PLP combined... fk it, I give up.
Exactly, if they have a problem with Branson, they have a problem with almost none.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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Johnnytheboy said:
technodup said:
By going after the like of Branson, who by all accounts is one of the good guys and has probably paid more tax than the PLP combined... fk it, I give up.
Exactly, if they have a problem with Branson, they have a problem with almost none.
I think the problem is pickle...Corblimey prefers jam.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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how long before the Leadership election so we can get on with the main event the break up of the labour party.
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