Jeremy Corbyn

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Turquoise

1,457 posts

98 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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schmunk said:
Welshbeef said:
He has paid far too little tax
He has not had his tax free allowance removed.

What do you not understand?
I suggest you step away from this one, as you are once again in danger of making look silly.
But he can compose a sentence.

Andy Zarse

10,868 posts

248 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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Turquoise said:
schmunk said:
Welshbeef said:
He has paid far too little tax
He has not had his tax free allowance removed.

What do you not understand?
I suggest you step away from this one, as you are once again in danger of making look silly.
But he can compose a sentence.
No he (famously) can't!

P5BNij

15,875 posts

107 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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SpeedMattersNot said:
davepoth said:
SpeedMattersNot said:
ou are completely out of control. What next, pistonheads on the one hand slags off Trump, but on the other, tongues Farage's excrement hole? This just isn't news...
But there is video of him walking past empty, unreserved seats, followed by video of him making a political point for renationalisation by lying about there being no seats, before going to sit in one of the seats that he just said was not there.

When a politician who makes his platform quite literally



Makes a barefaced lie, tries to cover it up badly, and then attempts to "punish" the owner of the company who called him out on it, I'd call that newsworthy. Of course, I don't subscribe to



So my opinion my differ from yours.
What has any of what you've written got to do with my opinion?? You have completely missed the point...
It's you who has missed the point, by a country mile.

basherX

2,487 posts

162 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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Andy Zarse said:
Welshbeef said:
PurpleMoonlight said:
Welshbeef said:
Um yes it does.

He claimed he earned £74k a year on his tax return yet he actually earned £138k. As such he has not had his tax free allowance removed (between £100-123k effectively 68% tax) nor the correct tax on his entire income.

Had I done that is be fined a tax investigation going back 7 years and likely jail for tax evasion / note the difference not avoidance.
No it doesn't.

Do you really not know that HMRC get notified of most taxpayers income from its respective source, who deduct tax at source. The individuals tax return does not negate that.
He has paid far too little tax
He has not had his tax free allowance removed.

What do you not understand?
Explain why you think the calculation of personal allowance from PAYE earnings is not automatically done by HMRC when it issues the tax code to the employer/pension administrator?
In theory or in practice? I've seen (professionally) plenty of examples of people with multiple PAYE income streams from different sources where HMRC have issued an incorrect tax code.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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Andy Zarse said:
Explain why you think the calculation of personal allowance from PAYE earnings is not automatically done by HMRC when it issues the tax code to the employer/pension administrator?
I fill in 2x self assessments for parents/parents in law long since retired basic pension and at least one private pension.

Not one has ever been correct - all have been UNDER the tax due. Maybe you have been fortunate but in the sole 2 which I've done for pensioners it's 100% not working. How many have you done for pensioners and how many have been correct?

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

187 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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davepoth said:


At least the mouthpiece of a political party to the left of Labour unequivocally supports Corbyn.

KTF

9,809 posts

151 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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Johnnytheboy said:
davepoth said:


At least the mouthpiece of a political party to the left of Labour unequivocally supports Corbyn.
Strikes and protests for all rolleyes

Socialist Worker said:
Everyone should support Corbyn’s polices. But just re-electing him will not be enough.

We need action now against the Tory attacks that threaten the NHS and other vital services.

We need more strikes and protests against austerity and racism and nuclear weapons.

One chance to build the fightback is the demonstration at the Tory party conference in Birmingham on Sunday 2 October.

Everyone who hates the Tories, everyone who backs Corbyn, should be there.
Source: https://socialistworker.co.uk/art/43277/Huge+suppo...

Also:
Socialist Worker said:
He said the right was “attacking him because they feel threatened, they know things will change once he gets into power”.
Once he gets in to power... Positive thinking on the sinking ship.

Source: https://socialistworker.co.uk/art/43252/Jeremy+Cor...

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Edited by KTF on Monday 29th August 10:00

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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Andy Zarse said:
Explain why you think the calculation of personal allowance from PAYE earnings is not automatically done by HMRC when it issues the tax code to the employer/pension administrator?
Because multiple income sources and state pension doesn't appear to work.

Christ my own PAYE was incorrect for over a year (vastly underpaying tax - no matter how many times they were called) all sorted under Self assessment but I had the nice upside of having that cash month on month until end of Jan the following year thank you smile.

Turquoise

1,457 posts

98 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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Andy Zarse said:
Turquoise said:
schmunk said:
Welshbeef said:
He has paid far too little tax
He has not had his tax free allowance removed.

What do you not understand?
I suggest you step away from this one, as you are once again in danger of making look silly.
But he can compose a sentence.
No he (famously) can't!
Actually, he did miss a full stop off his first sentence. hehe

Toaster

2,939 posts

194 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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CrutyRammers said:
Toaster is one of those people who just like arguing for the sake of it, especially if he can wind others up in doing so. Have a peak in the science forum where he mostly seems to follow Eric around, making snide comments.I was entirely unsurprised to see him cheerleading for Corbyn.
Its actually called debate and allowable there is no Right view and there are differing opinions and some quite nasty comments so why not challenge thinking, if you read what I have written I have not said I would vote for Corbyn but its a bit one sided when a small group on a chat forum can't acknowledge a differing perspective.

Regarding Eric lets discuss that the next time I post on the Science forum with him.

ThunderGuts

12,230 posts

195 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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hehe

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

199 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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It's always about the hate with these people.

Turquoise

1,457 posts

98 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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Toaster said:
CrutyRammers said:
Toaster is one of those people who just like arguing for the sake of it.
I have not said I would vote for Corbyn but its a bit one sided when a small group on a chat forum can't acknowledge a differing perspective.
Is that not an admission of arguing for the sake of it?

AAGR

918 posts

162 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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Toaster should get a special award for writing the longest, non-grammatical sentence , with no sign of a full stop appearing until he runs out of breath

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

94 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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I wondet if his problem with lop sided public opinions on a public forum would extend to say, the Socialist Worker board. If they have one.

nikaiyo2

4,752 posts

196 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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Toaster said:
Its actually called debate and allowable there is no Right view and there are differing opinions and some quite nasty comments so why not challenge thinking, if you read what I have written I have not said I would vote for Corbyn but its a bit one sided when a small group on a chat forum can't acknowledge a differing perspective.

Regarding Eric lets discuss that the next time I post on the Science forum with him.
I think that when one stands for a leadership role in a major political party the right to not have nasty things said about one is removed.

Debate is fine, but it only has value when there is reasonable differences of opinion.

In the Corbyn debate there are those who see him as a mendacious, incompetent, hypocritical, dangerous traitor, unfit to lead or those who are wrong.

Do you debate if the world is flat?
Do you debate that the sky is green?
Do you debate creation vs evolution?



P5BNij

15,875 posts

107 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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Toaster said:
... its a bit one sided when a small group on a chat forum can't acknowledge a differing perspective.

It isn't one sided at all Toaster, most of us on here do acknowledge a differing opinion, it's more a case of Corbyn's supporters either not being able to take any criticism whatsoever of their glorious leader, or ignoring it altogether, akin to little kids sticking their fingers in their ears when they don't like what's being said, or asked of them. The reason some of us keep plugging away at certain aspects of Corbyn's conduct is that none of his supporters ever want to answer these specific questions.



Toaster

2,939 posts

194 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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nikaiyo2 said:
I think that when one stands for a leadership role in a major political party the right to not have nasty things said about one is removed.

Debate is fine, but it only has value when there is reasonable differences of opinion.

In the Corbyn debate there are those who see him as a mendacious, incompetent, hypocritical, dangerous traitor, unfit to lead or those who are wrong.

Do you debate if the world is flat?
Do you debate that the sky is green?
Do you debate creation vs evolution?
Debate is fine but....... So you are arguing for censorship of views

Is the world flat, according to some it is but In my view it is not.
Is the sky green, if your colour blind it may well be and how do you know the blue sky you see is the same blue that I do? In the same way no one every sees the same rainbow.
Creation vs Evolution well this has to be debated as my personal belief is evolution but if I came across a creationist there would certainly be an debate.



Edited by Toaster on Monday 29th August 11:26

Toaster

2,939 posts

194 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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AAGR said:
Toaster should get a special award for writing the longest, non-grammatical sentence , with no sign of a full stop appearing until he runs out of breath
Maybe I should, and perhaps you would get second place for poor punctuation. wink

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

158 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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Welshbeef said:
I fill in 2x self assessments for parents/parents in law long since retired basic pension and at least one private pension.

Not one has ever been correct - all have been UNDER the tax due. Maybe you have been fortunate but in the sole 2 which I've done for pensioners it's 100% not working. How many have you done for pensioners and how many have been correct?
And on that basis you make the unequivocal statement that Corbyn is committing tax evasion?
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