Jeremy Corbyn

[anonymous-user]

techiedave said:

Popcorn time
1042 spoiled votes
Corbyn 313,209
Smith 193,229

ITS CORBY
Corbyn 61.8%
Smith 38.2%


Corby is the leader
Tories in for another 15 to 20 years

Whilst it's amusing and fascinating to watch. I think it's disappointing that the uk is effectively now a one party democracy with no effective opposition. I can't see corbyn managing to unite his party or be an effective voice in parliament.

[eldar]

el stovey said:

Whilst it's amusing and fascinating to watch. I think it's disappointing that the uk is effectively now a one party democracy with no effective opposition. I can't see corbyn managing to unite his party or be an effective voice in parliament.

True. Still leaves 40% of Labour unconvinced by Corbyn. And 70+% of the non-member Labour voters.

[768]

Amazing.

It'll be interesting to see who becomes the official opposition party.

[jmorgan]

Be interesting to see who jumps and who is pushed and who will suffer whilst smiling.

[andy43]

[anonymous-user]

el stovey said:

Whilst it's amusing and fascinating to watch. I think it's disappointing that the uk is effectively now a one party democracy with no effective opposition. I can't see corbyn managing to unite his party or be an effective voice in parliament.

I don't
I would much sooner have the tories in and labour in oblivion if the alternative is an ultra left wing party dictating what I can and cant do. I genuinely think that a corbyn led government is dangerous for the country and its people
Watching Chukka now they are just completely full of st. I had some time for Blair until the war and until I know people that got told what to say and think as in cant call it out for what it is I didn't even hate Brown though I just thought he was out of his depth. But with Milliband it became pure farce and its down to his lot that we now have the Corbyn leadership as they thought they would invite Corby onto the ballot paper to show how right on they are.
By default I should be a Labour voter I am not. I noticed red tape creeping in when running our business and I noticed the spread of PC. My brother lives in Poulton a niceish area just near to Blackpool.After seeing the ahambles that is the current LABOUR led Blackpool council and the money they waste whilst playing political games with central government I note that they just seem to think its ok to squander public dosh
In Birmingham we have had issues with our schools and I know for fact of 2 people that have been effectively forced out of their jobs by "right on" labour folk. Their crime - whistle blowing
So genuinely I think that Labour are bad enough but that in their current form they are mad bad and dangerous

And I apologise for my spelling mistakes

[stupidbutkeen]

pingu393 said:

stupidbutkeen said:

So as a skint mostly working in nmw or benefit person i should l8vw him. And to top it of in fron n.irelans thw lans.od weird thinkers bur i syill think hes a pray. Were do i stand here
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As you posted this at 03.26, I'll assume you'd had a session as well as no sleep

ooops just up after last night and saw that little ramble lol.

[Puggit]

el stovey said:

Whilst it's amusing and fascinating to watch. I think it's disappointing that the uk is effectively now a one party democracy with no effective opposition. I can't see corbyn managing to unite his party or be an effective voice in parliament.

Tories have the flakiest of wafer thin majorities though.

I wonder how many times Blairites will prop up a Tory proposal in parliament...

[johnxjsc1985]

I wonder at what point will they realise that in a General Election the General Public can also vote not just Momentum members.

[LHRFlightman]

johnxjsc1985 said:

I wonder at what point will they realise that in a General Election the General Public can also vote not just Momentum members.

After the vote!

[Derek Smith]

ThunderGuts said:

Derek Smith said:

I think you miss the point. The method is of no concern. People just want the railways renationalised, or rather, to be more accurate, not contracted to private industry. It is a vote catcher. That's the sole reason for its introduction.

You missed my point, I think it may have been a tad too subtle

Corbyn has nothing what so ever behind his pledges. Even those who worship in his shadow cannot explain the 'how'. All you get is 'do it cos of evil rich people'.

Sorry to miss what you meant. I agree with what you suggest, that's why I mentioned the similar suggestions of the UKIP. People want more. Promise them something vague and it will attract some voters.

[anonymous-user]

johnxjsc1985 said:

I wonder at what point will they realise that in a General Election the General Public can also vote not just Momentum members.

I don't think the Corby supporters care. I think the students and more left of middle members would rather be a 'principled opposition party' than a centrist party in power.

Where's the Labour Party getting all these far left wing students from anyway. When I was a student, all I cared about was girls and getting drunk.

Edited by el stovey on Saturday 24th September 12:37

[W124]

Echo chamber.

[Halb]

el stovey said:

Whilst it's amusing and fascinating to watch. I think it's disappointing that the uk is effectively now a one party democracy with no effective opposition. I can't see corbyn managing to unite his party or be an effective voice in parliament.

A certain number of years ago that may have been the case. I think the landscape has changed too much for that to be a dead cert now.

[Stickyfinger]

el stovey said:

I don't think the Corby supporters care. I think the students and more left of middle members would rather be a 'principled opposition party' than a centrist party in power.

The trouble with that is those idiots and kids cannot work out that they will not have a 'principled opposition party' in the dusty hole they have just put themselves in.....funny as f^^k

[Garvin]

johnxjsc1985 said:

I wonder at what point will they realise that in a General Election the General Public can also vote not just Momentum members.

Who are the 'they' you are referring to?

If Momentum and their ilk then it matters not. I am convinced that they don't really care about being in government, just being a small protest party that is theirs, wholly theirs and nothing but theirs is all they want. When they cease to be even the opposition party they may well begin to rethink but, by then, it will be far too late.

If you mean the other members of the Labour Party drawing comfort on the size of the membership - I think they will remain deluded until the magnitude of the Labour defeat wakes them up. Again, by then it will be far too late.

Everyone else, I believe, knows the score full well.

Some of the Labour faithful appear to be relying on the failure of the Tories over Brexit as their route to government i.e. not in their own abilities. This looks to be the only hope for them. However, there are some flaws in this approach. If the Tories are successful in achieving a reasonable deal for Brexit with little or no damage to the economy the Labour hopes dissolve. Even if the Tories make a bit of a hash of it and the economy is suffering will the electorate really believe that Labour can sort the economy out?

[steveT350C]

William Hill is taking bets on when Labour will next win a general election, and 2031 or later is current favourite at 7/4.

[johnxjsc1985]

I really think Corbyn will take a huge defeat at the GE as long as the Party sticks to hard left policies.
I saw an older man being interviewed and he voted for Smith but admitted on the door step people told him they would not vote Labour with Corbyn in charge.
Now we wait for the PLP to speak.

[RedTrident]

el stovey said:

techiedave said:

Popcorn time
1042 spoiled votes
Corbyn 313,209
Smith 193,229

ITS CORBY
Corbyn 61.8%
Smith 38.2%


Corby is the leader
Tories in for another 15 to 20 years

Whilst it's amusing and fascinating to watch. I think it's disappointing that the uk is effectively now a one party democracy with no effective opposition. I can't see corbyn managing to unite his party or be an effective voice in parliament.

I don't buy that. The party before Corbyn became leader was proven to be unelectable. I see Corbyn as an interim leader and whoever comes next will actually lead a party that is a genuine electable opposition. What we had at the last election was a Labour Party that was just Tory lite.

I'm actually looking forward to seeing these 172 MPs that tried to oust Corbyn get deselected. It doesn't matter what Corbyn says, the left of the party are going to go after MPs that all too often were placed in safe constituencies by head office. It'll be the English equivalent of the bit of the French Revolution with the guillotine and those citizen court things.

[anonymous-user]

Welshbeef said:

Apart from electing JC today I wonder if the policy decisions on Trident railway nationalisation banning after work drinks as it's sexist to mums banning meat eaters and actually banning booze.

65% top rate of tax from £75k
Living wage pushed up to £13/hour
Invitations to ISIS Boko Haram Argentina for a dinner party to break the ice and see how we can all work together plus give Falklands to Argentina against the 99.7% settled will of those islands.
Forgot invite Irish nationals to discuss creating the Union of Ireland.
Oh and banning salaried about £100k.
Forcing landlords to sell the houses to tennants at prices the tennants can fairly afford regardless of he cost it was to them and the improvement costs.

Does that cover it?

Here, have some ,,,,,,.......

Not that I'm sure you'd know where to put them.