7-year-old Missing In Barnsley

[Ste1987]

Eric Mc said:

The answer is no, I don't remember any of our parents berating the parents of the dead children . All I remember is expressions of sadness and sympathy.

We are far, far too judgmental these days.

I blame the McCanns

[PorkInsider]

WinstonWolf said:

Mastodon2 said:

Sounds like the parents failed to impress upon their son the dangers of playing on building sites. Also, further terrible parenting on their part that a 7 year old boy was unsupervised at that time of night.

We were always told to stay away from building sites every single time we went out. We played on building sites every time we went out... Kids!

Building sites always attracted us as kids, too.

I would guess I was around 8yo (so it would have been 1980(ish)) when one summer 3 of my friends were hurt on a local building site in different incidents. One sliced his hand badly on a broken clay pipe, another chopped the end off a finger when a cast iron drain cover a few of them had managed to lift up was dropped. The other one broke his arm falling off scaffolding.

We'd been told time and time again to keep away but we were still there when we got chance.

[Thankyou4calling]

COMPO PLEASE

[RichB]

I don't think anyone's denying that boys will be boys however I simply don't recollect doing all these things just 2 years into infants school.

[Easternlight]

FredClogs said:

We have. park not 200metres from our house and there is no building sites, pedophiles(as far as I know) or even minor roads on route... The wife now says I'm not allowed to let our 8 year old take our 4 year old round there on there own.

Thanks a lot internet.

Don't blame the Internet. It's how it's used by people.
They are the problem.

[Wacky Racer]

RIP Little Fella...

You can't wrap kids up in cotton wool.

It is unrealistic to secure some building sites, they are just to big, it could just as easy have been a quarry etc.

Young lads will always like exploring, I certainly did.

[bad company]

FredClogs said:

We have a park not 200metres from our house and there is no building sites, pedophiles(as far as I know) or even minor roads on route... The wife now says I'm not allowed to let our 8 year old take our 4 year old round there on there own.

Thanks a lot internet.

'The wife now says I'm not allowed to' Seriously??

Edited by bad company on Tuesday 28th July 10:56

[TTmonkey]

So anyone have any idea what these pipes are for? I'm bussing they are some king of piling to shore up the ground.

Some close up photos here:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3177010/Wh...

Quite frankly, if the pipe was deep, he may never have been found, if someone hadn't actually looked.

[GloverMart]

TTmonkey said:

So anyone have any idea what these pipes are for? I'm bussing they are some king of piling to shore up the ground.

Some close up photos here:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3177010/Wh...

Quite frankly, if the pipe was deep, he may never have been found, if someone hadn't actually looked.

Even last night, there was a comment in that story from someone blaming the police for not looking properly. And the woman pictured and quoted seems to know a lot about how he died, considering there hasn't been a post mortem yet.

Typical of the country these days. "Someone is to blame but it's not me!"

[chris watton]

I have always thought that the parents were 100% responsible for the welfare and safety their children when in their care (not at school).

Is this not the case any longer?

Edited by chris watton on Tuesday 28th July 12:43

[Gargamel]

chris watton said:

I have always thought that the parents were 100% responsible for the welfare and safety their children when in their care (not at school).

Is this not the case any longer?

Edited by chris watton on Tuesday 28th July 12:43

I think all adults have a role to play in looking after the welfare of children. At times that is going to mean asking unaccompanied youngster if they are OK. Which as an adult male is a tricky one !

[Eric Mc]

iambeowulf said:

I don't think that's a bad thing. Maybe if people were more judgemental back in the 60's and 70's Saville and his ilk wouldn't have got away with it for so long.

This forum, and any other social media platform, wouldn't function without judgements. But then calling some judgemental is also a personal judgemental opinion.

Hmmm - would you judge a person who is offering no judgement, judgmental or non-judgmental?

Me reflecting on adults I knew in my childhood passing judgement on their peers is not me making a judgement. It's me stating a fact.

[FredClogs]

Gargamel said:

Which as an adult male is a tricky one !

Not though is it, you just say are you okay?
Or in Barnsley you say, is thee alreet lad?

Other day I was at a park with my kids and a lad had got his shoe caught in a climbing wall thing and his ankle was twisted up, he was loosing his grip so I went over and said "Are you ok?" and he said "no" so I lifted the lad of the wall. His dad was over the other side of the park and shouted "Thanks" at me... It was all very civilised and expected.

[Hooli]

Ste1987 said:

Eric Mc said:

The answer is no, I don't remember any of our parents berating the parents of the dead children . All I remember is expressions of sadness and sympathy.

We are far, far too judgmental these days.

I blame the McCanns

Where they in Barnsley then?

[Eric Mc]

Maybe he's on to something. There was a family called "McCann" not far from where I was brought up.

[Ste1987]

Hooli said:

Ste1987 said:

Eric Mc said:

The answer is no, I don't remember any of our parents berating the parents of the dead children . All I remember is expressions of sadness and sympathy.

We are far, far too judgmental these days.

I blame the McCanns

Where they in Barnsley then?

I mean that people are quick to show no sympathy towards parents, like with the McCanns. I'm sure people show sadness at a young child losing their life, but will blame the parents for their negligence

[Yabu]

FredClogs said:

Gargamel said:

Which as an adult male is a tricky one !

Not though is it, you just say are you okay?
Or in Barnsley you say, is thee alreet lad?

Other day I was at a park with my kids and a lad had got his shoe caught in a climbing wall thing and his ankle was twisted up, he was loosing his grip so I went over and said "Are you ok?" and he said "no" so I lifted the lad of the wall. His dad was over the other side of the park and shouted "Thanks" at me... It was all very civilised and expected.

Being in the park with your kids and this happens, parent misreads what you are doing and starts shouting peado from across the park, not likely as most will see it as the helpful thing that it is but still a possible outcome, I agree with other poster though that as an adult male around children that are nothing to do with you it is a potentially a tricky situation to find yourself in.

[Moonhawk]

FredClogs said:

Not though is it, you just say are you okay?
Or in Barnsley you say, is thee alreet lad?

Other day I was at a park with my kids and a lad had got his shoe caught in a climbing wall thing and his ankle was twisted up, he was loosing his grip so I went over and said "Are you ok?" and he said "no" so I lifted the lad of the wall. His dad was over the other side of the park and shouted "Thanks" at me... It was all very civilised and expected.

That's probably a critical detail though - and the bloke who thanked you (as well as other adults in the area) had probably observed the fact that you were with your own kids.

Had you been a lone and unaccompanied male in the park do you think your motives for approaching the kid would have been seen in a different light - at least at first?

A friend of mine has been called a paedo for simply walking on a public beach with his girlfriend - his crime - he was carrying a slung DSLR with a large zoom lens at the time.

Edited by Moonhawk on Tuesday 28th July 18:37

[bad company]

FredClogs said:

Other day I was at a park with my kids and a lad had got his shoe caught in a climbing wall thing and his ankle was twisted up, he was loosing his grip so I went over and said "Are you ok?" and he said "no" so I lifted the lad of the wall. His dad was over the other side of the park and shouted "Thanks" at me... It was all very civilised and expected.

The wife allowed you out with the kids?? Amazing.

[ALawson]

TTmonkey said:

So anyone have any idea what these pipes are for? I'm bussing they are some king of piling to shore up the ground.

Some close up photos here:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3177010/Wh...

Quite frankly, if the pipe was deep, he may never have been found, if someone hadn't actually looked.

They look like vertical HDPE pipe being installed through Gabian baskets (these are stacked vertically stepped back to form a retaining wall), I expect the pipes are there to assist in ensuring that the material behind the wall is drained properly. If the pipe was 450mm or 600mm it would have been a terrible way to get trapped.

The telegraph reported the 24hr security and gates had been removed recently.