Will overuled by judge

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anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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You're welcome. £10,000 plus VAT. Payment terms: due yesterday, interest at 28% compounded hourly.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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I haven't told you my rate yet.

Cranking up the invoice-o-meter right now.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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In view of the impending breakdown of society/Zombie Apocalypse caused by the decision under discussion, I am accepting payment in canned goods, antibiotics, and mêlée weapons.

toohangry

416 posts

110 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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Breadvan72 said:
No one who uses the term strawman is ever clever, but it's a popular term amongst some PH'ers who may think that they're clever.
rofl

zedstar

1,736 posts

177 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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Wasn't one of the issues raised that the mothers wealth was enhanced (or whatever) by the death of her husband/daughters father 2 months before she was born. Seems fair that the daughter gets something for the fathers contribution....?

StottyEvo

6,860 posts

164 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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wolves_wanderer said:
Breadvan72 said:
Read the decision! It's written in plain English.
How are we supposed to stay angry and ignorant if we do that??!!!!111one
Easy, just read the decision.

"Mrs Jackson left a will in which, subject to a legacy of £5,000 in favour of the BBC Benevolent Fund, she left her entire estate to be divided between The Blue Cross, the Royal Society for the Protection of Birds and the Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals ("the Charities"). The appellant was the only child of Mrs Jackson. She and her mother had been estranged for some 26 years and the appellant knew that Mrs Jackson intended not to leave her any of her estate in her will."

Still angry

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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Cuz birdies and bunnies more important than people?

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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If a person gets angry because someone they do not know gets some money from a dead person (also unknown to the angry person), I wonder what the angry person would do if anything actually important and unpleasant happened to them.

Schmy

162 posts

107 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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report said:
a legacy of £5,000 in favour of the BBC Benevolent Fund
turbobloke to post in 5...4...3...

daddy cool

4,002 posts

230 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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Would it have been any different if the woman had left all her money to a person (eg a friend, neighbour) rather than a charity? Could they still have overridden her wishes?
If not, why not?

hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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Breadvan72 said:
If a person gets angry because someone they do not know gets some money from a dead person (also unknown to the angry person), I wonder what the angry person would do if anything actually important and unpleasant happened to them.
Get angry again presumably.

Nowt wrong with a bit of righteous indignation on behalf of someone else. I often get a bit miffed if I read summink and perceive someone I've never met has been slighted in some way. Like if some tinker keyed your motor, for example.

It's the internet innit bruv. We is all empafisin wiv our soshul meeja mates.

wolves_wanderer

12,387 posts

238 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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Schmy said:
report said:
a legacy of £5,000 in favour of the BBC Benevolent Fund
turbobloke to post in 5...4...3...
biggrin

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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The Act could still have been invoked, but every case depends on its own facts. I say this a lot, but that doesn't stop it being true: the answer to most legal what ifs is "it depends".

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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hornetrider said:
Breadvan72 said:
If a person gets angry because someone they do not know gets some money from a dead person (also unknown to the angry person), I wonder what the angry person would do if anything actually important and unpleasant happened to them.
Get angry again presumably.

Nowt wrong with a bit of righteous indignation on behalf of someone else. I often get a bit miffed if I read summink and perceive someone I've never met has been slighted in some way.

It's the internet innit bruv. We is all empafisin wiv our soshul meeja mates.
Feelin' yo' pain, Blud. Now you can feel mine. I am about to go and collect a rusty old Jag bought for cheap dollar from some bloke on the internet. Oh, bugger. If all goes titz, I will remember you all in my Will.

TEKNOPUG

18,974 posts

206 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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Oakey said:
TEKNOPUG said:
The daughter eloped with the mother's then partner. They hadn't spoken for 26 years afterwards. The mother disowned her. The law is an ass.
Is that true or did you make it up? Is it in the judgement?

It seemed the daughter did try to reconcile;

Bailii said:
22.The appellant and Mrs Jackson were estranged. There were three attempts at reconciliation, all of which failed. On the last occasion, it failed because Mrs Jackson took offence that the fifth child had been given the name of the appellant's paternal grandmother, whom Mrs Jackson did not like.
She sounds like a nasty old witch.
That's what they said on Radio 5 when I posted it this morning. Maybe they got confused with who's partner "her partner" was hehe

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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"When the facts change, I change my mind" said John Maynard Keynes. Do you follow JMK, Teknopug?

johnfm

13,668 posts

251 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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Breadvan72 said:
Keep up at the back! The Judges in the Court of Appeal (and the High Court before that) simply applied a Statute dating from 1975. Parliament in 1975 thought it a good idea that in certain limited circumstances close family members could seek reasonable provision from the estate of a close relative. What right does a Judge have to do this, you ask. The answer is that a Judge has a power given to the Court by the elected legislature. The Act has been around for forty years, and society hasn't disintegrated because of it.

Edited by Breadvan72 on Tuesday 28th July 08:10
Fuvk you and you reasoned analysis based on a thorough understanding of the law. This is PH. Where is your sense of outrage FFS?? These are strangers lives we're talking about. Strangers lives I tell you!!


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pork911

7,187 posts

184 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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Breadvan72 said:
The Act could still have been invoked, but every case depends on its own facts. I say this a lot, but that doesn't stop it being true: the answer to most legal what ifs is "it depends".
and there was me thinking you'd forgotten that wink

Eclassy

1,201 posts

123 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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Jasandjules said:
What a person wishes to do with their money is a matter for them. I do not feel the state should interfere (save for exceptional circumstances such as coercion).
100%

Warren Buffet's children need not fear as I remember him saying in a documentary that he'll leave them nothing.

Pat H

8,056 posts

257 months

Tuesday 28th July 2015
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I suppose the moral of the story is to give it all away before you kick the bucket.

That way the intended beneficiaries get the money and not someone who was deliberately excluded from your will.

smile