Can we hunt him using an Apache?
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KTF said:
TheJimi said:
I can only speak for myself but I'd be no less upset if it wasn't a famous Lion.
For me, it's nothing to do with names and everything to do with the murderous act of killing an animal for fun.
But this sort of thing has been going on forever and probably a few more have been shot today. Why get outraged about it now?For me, it's nothing to do with names and everything to do with the murderous act of killing an animal for fun.
Truth is, I have personally never accepted the idea of hunting animals for fun, and just because it's been going on for hundreds of years doesn't make it any less wrong, in my opinion.
If I found a stray dog and killed it on sight, the police and associated agencies would throw the book at me, and rightly so. Which means, as a society, we've accepted that cruelty to animals is inherently wrong. Unless, of course, it's a "tradition" - in which case, it's perfectly ok.
As for advocating something nasty to happen to this guy, yep, I'd love to hear about someone going to town on him.
Mafffew said:
wiggy001 said:
I can't help but feel that the dental practice isn't taking this seriously: https://twitter.com/RiverBlufDental
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king hell, whoever is putting those out is making things a lot worse. 
The hypocrisy of those who are wishing pain and suffering on this guy for what he did is breathtaking. I wonder how many of those calling for him to be beheaded or shot with his own bow would actually be willing to personally do what they are calling for.
I do understand the economic case for trophy hunting but I cannot for the life of me understand why this cretin was trying to kill a lion with a bow. If this has to happen it should happen in a humane way and not lead to the suffering of the poor animal as evidently happened.
...and to those who see a difference between killing an animal for food as opposed to "sport", i don't think the animal concerned would share your views.
I do understand the economic case for trophy hunting but I cannot for the life of me understand why this cretin was trying to kill a lion with a bow. If this has to happen it should happen in a humane way and not lead to the suffering of the poor animal as evidently happened.
...and to those who see a difference between killing an animal for food as opposed to "sport", i don't think the animal concerned would share your views.
nute said:
The hypocrisy of those who are wishing pain and suffering on this guy for what he did is breathtaking. I wonder how many of those calling for him to be beheaded or shot with his own bow would actually be willing to personally do what they are calling for.
I do understand the economic case for trophy hunting but I cannot for the life of me understand why this cretin was trying to kill a lion with a bow. If this has to happen it should happen in a humane way and not lead to the suffering of the poor animal as evidently happened.
...and to those who see a difference between killing an animal for food as opposed to "sport", i don't think the animal concerned would share your views.
If it was legalised in this instance, I imagine the vast majority of those calling for that punishment would do so.I do understand the economic case for trophy hunting but I cannot for the life of me understand why this cretin was trying to kill a lion with a bow. If this has to happen it should happen in a humane way and not lead to the suffering of the poor animal as evidently happened.
...and to those who see a difference between killing an animal for food as opposed to "sport", i don't think the animal concerned would share your views.
The world would be a better place without trophy hunters however him losing his livelihood is comfort enough for me.
I think the outrage isn't necessarily the fact that he killed the lion (this seems to be an unfortunately common occurrence) but more the way he stalked the wounded animal for 40 hours after it had been shot with a bow. I expect that the level of pain and fear that animal would have been feeling was unimaginable, and just so someone can get a hard-on.
I enjoy shooting pheasants and rabbits. I also enjoy eating them. I don't like skinning them when you get to the bumhole and have to poke your finger through it from the inside to get the last bit of skin off though.
Does that make me a murderous
Would be interested to know if those that think hunting is "murderous" are actually veggies themselves. The animal being hunted has, in 99% of times, had a far free-er and happier life than anything farmed, and the purpose of the hunt is predominantly about conservation and population control. Very few people are actually backing this dentist, by the way...
Does that make me a murderous
Would be interested to know if those that think hunting is "murderous" are actually veggies themselves. The animal being hunted has, in 99% of times, had a far free-er and happier life than anything farmed, and the purpose of the hunt is predominantly about conservation and population control. Very few people are actually backing this dentist, by the way...
TheJimi said:
A fox, pheasant or Lion, it matters not. In my view, you have to be pretty fked in the head to get any enjoyment from killing an animal for entertainment.
Bang on Jimi. Surely taking pleasure from inflicting suffering on an undeserving entity is the mark of a psycopath, whatever species is on the recieving end.ked in the head to get any enjoyment from killing an animal for entertainment.OpulentBob said:
I enjoy shooting pheasants and rabbits. I also enjoy eating them. I don't like skinning them when you get to the bumhole and have to poke your finger through it from the inside to get the last bit of skin off though.
Does that make me a murderous
Of course not, the issue isn't black and white surely.Does that make me a murderous
Theres a world of difference from shooting a wild rabbit and making a stew and paying $55,000 for an illegal 'hunt' of an animal thats been lured out of safety, just for s
ts and giggles.KTF said:
crofty1984 said:
Poor bloke. Can't say I approve of hunting lions, but the hysteria surrounding it is mental.
People love a bandwagon.This is a bit different. I am much more on the fence when it comes to fox hunting and game bird shooting but when it comes to big game, and in particular endangered animals I can't even begin to express the utter contempt in which I hold those who consider it sport. Hunting a lion with a bowie knife I can almost get, even if I still could not support it due to the state of the population. Using a cross bow and guns though is cowardice.
Where's the challenge, to sitting in the back of a 4x4 and shooting a defenseless animal with a high powered rifle?
What sort of sense of achievement do these guys get?
I honestly don't get it. This was done purely for *fun*, I guess. Since they weren't killing to eat it and it wasn't done for population control. It was just a guy who enjoys killing large animals.
That is completely bizarre to me. I just can't understand what the "hunter" gets out of it. He hasn't even hunted.
What sort of sense of achievement do these guys get?
I honestly don't get it. This was done purely for *fun*, I guess. Since they weren't killing to eat it and it wasn't done for population control. It was just a guy who enjoys killing large animals.
That is completely bizarre to me. I just can't understand what the "hunter" gets out of it. He hasn't even hunted.
rohrl said:
groucho said:
How fking difficult can it be to hide and shoot a Lion with a crossbow?
Harder than it is to kill a lion cleanly with a crossbow apparently. The lion was only wounded and spent 40 hours being stalked before it was shot dead.king difficult can it be to hide and shoot a Lion with a crossbow?I heard Simon King on Radio 4 yesterday explaining how killing a mature dominant male will have a ripple effect which will result in the death of lots of other lions in the area too.
If you want to shoot wild animals then use a camera.
like the hunter trampled by an elephant recently, sorry, can't find a shred of empathy for ya there, hope it really really hurt....
The press are all over him - he's a (alleged) sex pest too. At least he completed a course in 'ethics'.
Wail said:
Dr. Walter Palmer, the Minnesota dentist who has achieved worldwide notoriety for killing the most famous lion in Africa paid out $127,500 in 2009 to settle a sexual harassment claim, it was revealed today.
The settlement was made to a former employee at his Minneapolis practice who alleged that Dr. Palmer subjected her to 'ongoing and unwelcome sexual harassment by, but not limited to, verbal comments and physical conduct involving her breasts, buttocks and genitalia'.
The woman alleged that Dr. Palmer, who has gone into hiding since he slaughtered Cecil the lion, was asked to stop his behavior, but continued. Her complaint also alleges she also lost her job because she reported his alleged untoward conduct.
According to the claim filed with the Minnesota Board of Dentistry, the employee worked for Dr.Palmer from 1999 to January 2005 and also had dental procedures performed on her by the married father of two.
Dr. Palmer said that he settled financially to 'conclude the matter quickly and efficiently' and it did not amount to any admission of wrongdoing.
The Minnesota Board of Dentistry in reply ruled that the complaint was officially dismissed and Dr. Palmer was required to complete a course in ethics.
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The settlement was made to a former employee at his Minneapolis practice who alleged that Dr. Palmer subjected her to 'ongoing and unwelcome sexual harassment by, but not limited to, verbal comments and physical conduct involving her breasts, buttocks and genitalia'.
The woman alleged that Dr. Palmer, who has gone into hiding since he slaughtered Cecil the lion, was asked to stop his behavior, but continued. Her complaint also alleges she also lost her job because she reported his alleged untoward conduct.
According to the claim filed with the Minnesota Board of Dentistry, the employee worked for Dr.Palmer from 1999 to January 2005 and also had dental procedures performed on her by the married father of two.
Dr. Palmer said that he settled financially to 'conclude the matter quickly and efficiently' and it did not amount to any admission of wrongdoing.
The Minnesota Board of Dentistry in reply ruled that the complaint was officially dismissed and Dr. Palmer was required to complete a course in ethics.
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Rude-boy said:
greed, BUT.
This is a bit different. I am much more on the fence when it comes to fox hunting and game bird shooting but when it comes to big game, and in particular endangered animals I can't even begin to express the utter contempt in which I hold those who consider it sport. Hunting a lion with a bowie knife I can almost get, even if I still could not support it due to the state of the population. Using a cross bow and guns though is cowardice.
Lions are not endangered. This is a bit different. I am much more on the fence when it comes to fox hunting and game bird shooting but when it comes to big game, and in particular endangered animals I can't even begin to express the utter contempt in which I hold those who consider it sport. Hunting a lion with a bowie knife I can almost get, even if I still could not support it due to the state of the population. Using a cross bow and guns though is cowardice.
ofcorsa said:
Rude-boy said:
greed, BUT.
This is a bit different. I am much more on the fence when it comes to fox hunting and game bird shooting but when it comes to big game, and in particular endangered animals I can't even begin to express the utter contempt in which I hold those who consider it sport. Hunting a lion with a bowie knife I can almost get, even if I still could not support it due to the state of the population. Using a cross bow and guns though is cowardice.
Lions are not endangered. This is a bit different. I am much more on the fence when it comes to fox hunting and game bird shooting but when it comes to big game, and in particular endangered animals I can't even begin to express the utter contempt in which I hold those who consider it sport. Hunting a lion with a bowie knife I can almost get, even if I still could not support it due to the state of the population. Using a cross bow and guns though is cowardice.
So he didn't refer to Lions as being endangered. Thus, negating the need for your statement.
Further, that they aren't endangered does not (in my opinion) make it any less wrong that they should be hunted like this.
Edited by TheJimi on Thursday 30th July 13:43
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