Stuart Baggs from The Apprentice found dead.

[Wills2]

Baryonyx said:

Eric Mc said:

I have a theory that an awful lot of people who appear on this programme are people who suffer from various psychological disorders or inadequacies.

I would not be surprised if this chap had a mental health history of some sort dating back to well before he appeared on the show.

It will be interesting to hear what the coroner's report concludes when it eventually is published.

Or maybe he just worked himself to death. He was boasting about putting in 18 hours days and only sleeping for 4 hours. Although that leaves 2 missing hours.

How tasteless.

I agree, poor form.

[Rowley Birkin]

Eric Mc said:

It was a bit, I admit - but knowing something about how the TV programme he appeared in operates, I know they do have their eye out for those they consider to be, lets say, a little unpredictable.

Like any other LE show they are looking for someone who will make good TV. They are unlikely to be seeking out those with mental health issues. In fact, I would be unsurprised if the question is on the production company's suitability questionnaire. They tend to be quite broad in terms of their interest, lest someone causes problems after filming.

SB looked set to be a colourful candidate, and indeed he was. What better denouement for his character than to have him dismantled in the way he was. I reiterate that I am not suggesting that the Apprentice had any part in his death, I am merely pointing out that he appeared to be someone who was basically decent but sacrificed in the interests of good telly.

[Eric Mc]

Vulnerable, perhaps?

If that is the case, it makes my distaste of this type of programming even stronger.

[Snozzwangler]

Eric Mc said:

Vulnerable, perhaps?

If that is the case, it makes my distaste of this type of programming even stronger.

Would you say Richard Branson is vulnerable?

A similar type of 'look at me' businessman when compared to a 'suit'.

[Eric Mc]

Snozzwangler said:

Eric Mc said:

Vulnerable, perhaps?

If that is the case, it makes my distaste of this type of programming even stronger.

Would you say Richard Branson is vulnerable?

A similar type of 'look at me' businessman when compared to a 'suit'.

He may have been at 27. But he survived and thrived. Stuart Baggs might well have as well. We shall never know now.

[Snozzwangler]

Eric Mc said:

Snozzwangler said:

Eric Mc said:

Vulnerable, perhaps?

If that is the case, it makes my distaste of this type of programming even stronger.

Would you say Richard Branson is vulnerable?

A similar type of 'look at me' businessman when compared to a 'suit'.

He may have been at 27. But he survived and thrived. Stuart Baggs might well have as well. We shall never know now.

Indeed. So best that we don't assume.

[Eric Mc]

No - so best that we feel sorry for someone who may have been badly damaged by being used by unscrupulous media.

[Snozzwangler]

Poor form.

[Laurel Green]

Sad news indeed. RIP, Stuart.

[XJ40]

I was sad when I read this story earlier, I remember watching the Apprentice series which he took part in. He was certainly one of the charcters from the show and I had to admire the guys ambition. As he was young I can't help but wonder about the cause of death...

[eccles]

Eric Mc said:

No - so best that we feel sorry for someone who may have been badly damaged by being used by unscrupulous media.

I really don't undertstand why you keep trying to make out that it's somehow the shows/medias fault.
He was on the show 4 years ago, by which time the format of the show was very well known, so there were no surprises there. He chose to apply.
Baggs started his own company, and continued to run it after the show, he wasn't spat out some broken man!

[Countdown]

eccles said:

I really don't undertstand why you keep trying to make out that it's somehow the shows/medias fault.
He was on the show 4 years ago, by which time the format of the show was very well known, so there were no surprises there. He chose to apply.
Baggs started his own company, and continued to run it after the show, he wasn't spat out some broken man!

In my opinion the show made him out to be something of a laughing stock. It may well be that that resulted in psychological issues.

[anonymous-user]

Countdown said:

eccles said:

I really don't undertstand why you keep trying to make out that it's somehow the shows/medias fault.
He was on the show 4 years ago, by which time the format of the show was very well known, so there were no surprises there. He chose to apply.
Baggs started his own company, and continued to run it after the show, he wasn't spat out some broken man!

In my opinion the show made him out to be something of a laughing stock. It may well be that that resulted in psychological issues.

I can remember watching the series when it aired - he seemed like a pretty normal person to be honest. Maybe a slightly inflated sense of his own abilities and a touch of narcissism, but no more than anybody else that appeared on the programme. I'm sorry to hear about his death because he seemed like a decent bloke beneath all of the bravado - unlike a few of the gobstes that have appeared on the show.

Edited by Symbolica on Friday 31st July 19:15

[eccles]

Countdown said:

eccles said:

I really don't undertstand why you keep trying to make out that it's somehow the shows/medias fault.
He was on the show 4 years ago, by which time the format of the show was very well known, so there were no surprises there. He chose to apply.
Baggs started his own company, and continued to run it after the show, he wasn't spat out some broken man!

In my opinion the show made him out to be something of a laughing stock. It may well be that that resulted in psychological issues.

And yet he continued to run, and progress a succesful company....

[Countdown]

eccles said:

And yet he continued to run, and progress a succesful company....

He may well have done - it doesn't mean he didn't have psychological issues that weren't either caused or exacerbated by appearing on TA.

For the avoidance of doubt I'm not saying his death definitely is psychology-related - but he didn't come across well on TA. There was massive amounts of p155 taking out of him at the time.

[MarshPhantom]

eccles said:

Countdown said:

eccles said:

I really don't undertstand why you keep trying to make out that it's somehow the shows/medias fault.
He was on the show 4 years ago, by which time the format of the show was very well known, so there were no surprises there. He chose to apply.
Baggs started his own company, and continued to run it after the show, he wasn't spat out some broken man!

In my opinion the show made him out to be something of a laughing stock. It may well be that that resulted in psychological issues.

And yet he continued to run, and progress a succesful company....

Just because someone is doing OK doesn't mean they won't be affected by depression.

[Snozzwangler]

MarshPhantom said:

Just because someone is doing OK doesn't mean they won't be affected by depression.

Why depression? That's a narrow assumption, given the fact mental issues are just people jumping to conclusions in this instance.

[Schmy]

MarshPhantom said:

Katie Hopkins.

RIP.

You tease

[jonamv8]

Asthma

[Eric Mc]

Sad - did he have a history?