5p charge for plastic bags from October 2015 to cut usage

[MrBarry123]

I was at my local BP/M&S the other day and someone bought a sandwich and nothing else. The assistant asked if they'd like a small bag for said sandwich and they said yes...

Eh!?

For a sandwich. Completely unnecessary and if it cuts down on silly acts like this, the move will be worth it.

[Vipers]

227bhp said:

Compost your garden waste - i've never used my brown bin since I was given it.
If you actually have no means whatsoever of getting a bottle to a bottle bin then you probably make up about 1% of the population.

What annoys me is that used to collect waste glass, no the householder has to take their glass to the bottle banks themselves, so why do they assume everyone has the means of doing it.

How many elderly people still drive.

[Randy Winkman]

MrBarry123 said:

I was at my local BP/M&S the other day and someone bought a sandwich and nothing else. The assistant asked if they'd like a small bag for said sandwich and they said yes...

Eh!?

For a sandwich. Completely unnecessary and if it cuts down on silly acts like this, the move will be worth it.

In my local Tesco the staff are normally separating single use plastic bags and putting them on the counter for me to use as the previous person is putting their cards/wallet/purse away and going. I don't need any so the counter ends up with all of the unwanted bags plus my shopping on it.

[227bhp]

Vipers said:

227bhp said:

Compost your garden waste - i've never used my brown bin since I was given it.
If you actually have no means whatsoever of getting a bottle to a bottle bin then you probably make up about 1% of the population.

What annoys me is that used to collect waste glass, no the householder has to take their glass to the bottle banks themselves, so why do they assume everyone has the means of doing it.

How many elderly people still drive.

Well lots of things used to happen, so that is no argument really - I remember when the dustbinmen used to walk down the drive, round the house and into the garden for the one single metal bin, that was a while ago now. Way before then it would get thrown out of the top window of the house into the street or buried at the end of the garden in a midden, now that was a long time ago!
People do have the means of taking bottles to collection points, lots of elderly people still drive - if they don't they know someone who can. In the grand scheme of things it's not much of a job really.

[Eric Mc]

227bhp said:

People do have the means of taking bottles to collection points, lots of elderly people still drive - if they don't they know someone who can. In the grand scheme of things it's not much of a job really.

Not in every area or every social class.

[227bhp]

Eric Mc said:

227bhp said:

People do have the means of taking bottles to collection points, lots of elderly people still drive - if they don't they know someone who can. In the grand scheme of things it's not much of a job really.

Not in every area or every social class.

227bhp earlier said:

If you actually have no means whatsoever of getting a bottle to a bottle bin then you probably make up about 1% of the population.

A heck of a lot of people when supplied with the correct bins and instructions on what to do manage to fk it right up anyhow, so I don't think we need to worry about the aforementioned minority.

[oyster]

turbobloke said:

Eric Mc said:

Plenty of people here use their brown bins. It'd be a real pain without them - having to make multiple trips to the local waste centre and all the time that entails as well as wasting fuel etc. I can think of better things to do in my car than sit in a queue at the local tip.

Same here, the local tip is a tip.

However, apart from the two brown bins I've seen, a neighbour claims to have seen another one elsewhere in the town. So it's not that bad really.

Just in our road of 8 houses there are 7 garden waste bin owners. TB you must live in a town with some pretty crappy gardens.

[jmorgan]

Whether true or not, Cardiff Council has apparently dished out a load of wheely bins to people that cannot use them. Such as people in flats with no external space to park them....

Sure I heard it on the BBC news but if I link to that some people have a coronary.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/cardi...

[turbobloke]

oyster said:

turbobloke said:

Eric Mc said:

Plenty of people here use their brown bins. It'd be a real pain without them - having to make multiple trips to the local waste centre and all the time that entails as well as wasting fuel etc. I can think of better things to do in my car than sit in a queue at the local tip.

Same here, the local tip is a tip.

However, apart from the two brown bins I've seen, a neighbour claims to have seen another one elsewhere in the town. So it's not that bad really.

Just in our road of 8 houses there are 7 garden waste bin owners. TB you must live in a town with some pretty crappy gardens.

If anything the opposite applies, and the town itself has a blooming good reputation overall. Managing well enough without Council interference has nothing to do with being crappy.

[turbobloke]

jmorgan said:

Sure I heard it on the BBC news but if I link to that some people have a coronary.

As long as it's not The Guardian; hang on, same thing (Beeb = Guardian on air).

[Vipers]

227bhp said:

Vipers said:

227bhp said:

Compost your garden waste - i've never used my brown bin since I was given it.
If you actually have no means whatsoever of getting a bottle to a bottle bin then you probably make up about 1% of the population.

What annoys me is that used to collect waste glass, no the householder has to take their glass to the bottle banks themselves, so why do they assume everyone has the means of doing it.

How many elderly people still drive.

Well lots of things used to happen, so that is no argument really - I remember when the dustbinmen used to walk down the drive, round the house and into the garden for the one single metal bin, that was a while ago now. Way before then it would get thrown out of the top window of the house into the street or buried at the end of the garden in a midden, now that was a long time ago!

People do have the means of taking bottles to collection points, lots of elderly people still drive - if they don't they know someone who can. In the grand scheme of things it's not much of a job really.

So if your council stopped collecting plastic bottles, you would not hesitate to take them to the recycling point yourself?

If they stopped collecting tins, you would not hesitate to take them to the recycling point yourself?

If they stopped collecting paper and cardboard, you would take that as well?

If you honestly answer yes to those questions, well done.

[Convert]

Vipers said:

So if your council stopped collecting plastic bottles, you would not hesitate to take them to the recycling point yourself?

If they stopped collecting tins, you would not hesitate to take them to the recycling point yourself?

If they stopped collecting paper and cardboard, you would take that as well?

If you honestly answer yes to those questions, well done.

I'd not hesitate in voting the fkers out at the next election if they stopped collecting. After all that's what part of my council tax pays for. That and the twinning of my town with

Anshan.
Bochum.
Donetsk.
Estelí
Kawasaki.
and
Pittsburgh.

[Vipers]

Convert said:

I'd not hesitate in voting the fkers out at the next election if they stopped collecting. After all that's what part of my council tax pays for.

My sentiments exactly, we pay for it, and the system is eroded, first fortnightly connections (although I think travellers have a weekly one). What ever next.

[skeggysteve]

Just had an email from Tesco about this as we are signed up to their delivery saver scheme.

They are going to charge us 40p per delivery for carrier bags no matter how many they send.
I've no problem with this as they alway use far to many bags!

But I do have a problem with the government saying 'single use bags'.
We reuse all our, dog poo picking, kitchen bin bags etc.

[turbobloke]

We won't be paying a penny but if we were I'd be more interested in checking up on CMD's "promise" that what happened elswhere in the UK won't happen here actually means something (nothing to stop retailers keeping the lot, except of course for the VAT element as this is a charge not a tax).

[ellroy]

I'm a bit annoyed by this, I don't take a bag at all half the time, a Barbour has many decent pockets, but for a decent shop I do. Mainly because I don't then need to by bin liners.

So in my case the impact is I cause more waste and at more cost.

[Mojooo]

skeggysteve said:

Just had an email from Tesco about this as we are signed up to their delivery saver scheme.

They are going to charge us 40p per delivery for carrier bags no matter how many they send.
I've no problem with this as they alway use far to many bags!

But I do have a problem with the government saying 'single use bags'.
We reuse all our, dog poo picking, kitchen bin bags etc.

What if you need 15 bags? Does the law allow for such simplification?

[Boosted LS1]

I used to take a plastic box to the supermarket. Load the goods from the checkout into the box which sits inside the trolley. Take trolley to car and put box into boot of car. Seemed simple enough and the box also made packing tidier. it allowed things to be stacked. Much better then stuffing stuff into carrier bags.

[mybrainhurts]

On 6 Aug Eric Mc said:

mybrainhurts said:

Eric Mc said:

Maybe you're just not observant. I see plenty.

No, I love the countryside and I don't think I miss anything. If I did see bags everywhere, I wouldn't like it but, if there were no plastic bags, something else would be there instead, so plastic bags aren't the problem. What part of the country are you talking about?

The part I live in, North Hampshire.

Since this exchange, I've covered many miles, all over the north of England, Southampton, Bournemouth and a lot in beteween.

I've BEEN LOOKING for discarded plastic bags.

I haven't seen one.

[Einion Yrth]

Of late the local supermarkets have gone totally self-checkout. With the absurd sensitivity of the scales you can't just put the bags that you brought onto them and pack from there, so I have to just dump the goods that I have bought, naked, onto the scales and at the end, after giving over my cash, pack my purchases into the bags/ rucksacks/ whatever that I have brought, all the time ignoring the increasingly strident demands of the system to "take my goods". This is not going to go down well with those in the queue after me. Unless they make the scales even more ludicrously sensitive, how is the 5p a bag charge going to work here?