5p charge for plastic bags from October 2015 to cut usage
Discussion
Eric Mc said:
It was introduced in Ireland about ten years ago. Works well.
I'm old enough to remember a time before the ubiquitous plastic carrier bag. Society functioned well enough back then.
I like the Aldi way. Grab an empty fruit box on the way out and pile your shopping in. Even got nice handles and you can just pop it in your boot like a tray. If you need to get rid of the box at the end, just break it down and recycle it. Or keep it to use again. A good sturdy box will last ages!I'm old enough to remember a time before the ubiquitous plastic carrier bag. Society functioned well enough back then.
Otispunkmeyer said:
Eric Mc said:
It was introduced in Ireland about ten years ago. Works well.
I'm old enough to remember a time before the ubiquitous plastic carrier bag. Society functioned well enough back then.
I like the Aldi way. Grab an empty fruit box on the way out and pile your shopping in. Even got nice handles and you can just pop it in your boot like a tray. If you need to get rid of the box at the end, just break it down and recycle it. Or keep it to use again. A good sturdy box will last ages!I'm old enough to remember a time before the ubiquitous plastic carrier bag. Society functioned well enough back then.
Eric Mc said:
It was introduced in Ireland about ten years ago. Works well.
I'm old enough to remember a time before the ubiquitous plastic carrier bag. Society functioned well enough back then.
We didn't have supermarkets back then, or cars to fill up with shopping and mum had to go to the shops every day because she couldn't carry a week's worth of food in one go and dustbins stank because we had no convenient means of bagging up rubbish.I'm old enough to remember a time before the ubiquitous plastic carrier bag. Society functioned well enough back then.
How wonderful life was without the plastic bag.
Eric Mc said:
It was introduced in Ireland about ten years ago. Works well.
I'm old enough to remember a time before the ubiquitous plastic carrier bag. Society functioned well enough back then.
Well enough but not as well as now.I'm old enough to remember a time before the ubiquitous plastic carrier bag. Society functioned well enough back then.
One reason why plastic bags replaced paper bags is that plastic has good wet strength whereas paper doesn't. That's still true today. We need to ask whether casein bags when mass-produced would cost more than 5p above a standard item. Anyone?
If placcy bags are seen as a litter problem, when the real problem is the people dropping litter, then while some humans are to blame for their thoughtlessness, a lot of councils aren't doing what we pay local taxes for i.e. keeping their local area reasonably free from litter.
This pointless tokenism is more about keeping the lies of the Green Blob up close in people's faces. As pointed out, item packaging is a far worse sin if you believe the myths around commercialised populist greenism. Kitchen bins and wheelie bins will be muckier shortly after this autumn, not good for health.
soad said:
shakotan said:
Wasn't this meant to be a thing about 2 years ago? Which lasted about 5 minutes because supermarkets got bored of the moaning public?
They told us it was coming...It didn't last long.
Does it matter if the end result that litter is reduced? Are you so against ANYTHING that might help tidy up the environment on ideological grounds that you re completely unwilling to accept a relatively easy and harmless solution.
Who really loses in this situation?
I'd prefer my petrochemicals and carbon products (which I am very fond of, to be fair)to be used for far more enjoyable activities, like charging around in my Caterham - or manufacturing Airfix kits. Making unsightly throwaway plastic bags is utterly senseless.
Who really loses in this situation?
I'd prefer my petrochemicals and carbon products (which I am very fond of, to be fair)to be used for far more enjoyable activities, like charging around in my Caterham - or manufacturing Airfix kits. Making unsightly throwaway plastic bags is utterly senseless.
Eric Mc said:
Does it matter if the end result that litter is reduced? Are you so against ANYTHING that might help tidy up the environment on ideological grounds that you re completely unwilling to accept a relatively easy and harmless solution.
Who really loses in this situation?
I'd prefer my petrochemicals and carbon products (which I am very fond of, to be fair)to be used for far more enjoyable activities, like charging around in my Caterham - or manufacturing Airfix kits. Making unsightly throwaway plastic bags is utterly senseless.
You're not listening, Eric...stinky wheelie bins.Who really loses in this situation?
I'd prefer my petrochemicals and carbon products (which I am very fond of, to be fair)to be used for far more enjoyable activities, like charging around in my Caterham - or manufacturing Airfix kits. Making unsightly throwaway plastic bags is utterly senseless.
Litter? Haven't you noticed McDonalds PAPER bags all over the place? Why would an alternative to plastic bags not be dumped by these lazy arses?
mybrainhurts said:
Eric Mc said:
Does it matter if the end result that litter is reduced? Are you so against ANYTHING that might help tidy up the environment on ideological grounds that you re completely unwilling to accept a relatively easy and harmless solution.
Who really loses in this situation?
I'd prefer my petrochemicals and carbon products (which I am very fond of, to be fair)to be used for far more enjoyable activities, like charging around in my Caterham - or manufacturing Airfix kits. Making unsightly throwaway plastic bags is utterly senseless.
You're not listening, Eric...stinky wheelie bins.Who really loses in this situation?
I'd prefer my petrochemicals and carbon products (which I am very fond of, to be fair)to be used for far more enjoyable activities, like charging around in my Caterham - or manufacturing Airfix kits. Making unsightly throwaway plastic bags is utterly senseless.
In my trips to Ireland I have not come across any issues with smelly wheelie bins.
matchmaker said:
My wheelie bin stinks. It's outside in the back garden. Do I care? No.
Ours does as well. Although it is mainly because we have bin inspectors around here and so I pile the full of poop nappies up without a scented bag to irritate them. The poopy stench has the added advantage of stopping the neighbours smoking to close too our house
Eric Mc said:
mybrainhurts said:
Why?
Absolutely. They have their uses. We just don't need them cluttering up the countryside.Eric Mc said:
Maybe you're just not observant. I see plenty.
No, I love the countryside and I don't think I miss anything. If I did see bags everywhere, I wouldn't like it but, if there were no plastic bags, something else would be there instead, so plastic bags aren't the problem. What part of the country are you talking about?Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff