Thailand explosion
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What I don't understand is if this is political why would you target tourists, something that is so vital to the country and has nothing really to do with politics? No mainstream political group is going to gain anything when the tourism economy suffers
Very lucky with the 2nd bomb, I have a feeling I used that pier to do a tour of the floating village? And it was packed!
Very lucky with the 2nd bomb, I have a feeling I used that pier to do a tour of the floating village? And it was packed!
Thailand does its own unique form of politics, you cannot apply normal political logic to it.
So far these have been places that Mainland Chinese Tourists go, so could be related to that too,.....
however its all speculation until someone sticks their head above the wall and tells us why this is all happening.
So far these have been places that Mainland Chinese Tourists go, so could be related to that too,.....
however its all speculation until someone sticks their head above the wall and tells us why this is all happening.
Asterix said:
Last time in Bangkok, we'd have walked past that shrine numerous times as we stayed at the Four Seasons (now the Anantara) 50 yards South of there.
My other half stayed in a hotel around the corner before she met me. She wsa horrified last night as she knows just how busy the place is.So sad for the victims and families.
rich85uk said:
What I don't understand is if this is political why would you target tourists, something that is so vital to the country and has nothing really to do with politics? No mainstream political group is going to gain anything when the tourism economy suffers
Very lucky with the 2nd bomb, I have a feeling I used that pier to do a tour of the floating village? And it was packed!
One theory runs that it's because tourism is so important to Thailand's economy. With the military government and some bad press it's already suffering, and something like this, now could well harm the high season which is winter in Europe and North America. Very lucky with the 2nd bomb, I have a feeling I used that pier to do a tour of the floating village? And it was packed!
People who have lost their livelihoods or a big chunk of income are much more likely to come out against the current government who promised stability and unity when they took over last year.
AJS- said:
rich85uk said:
What I don't understand is if this is political why would you target tourists, something that is so vital to the country and has nothing really to do with politics? No mainstream political group is going to gain anything when the tourism economy suffers
Very lucky with the 2nd bomb, I have a feeling I used that pier to do a tour of the floating village? And it was packed!
One theory runs that it's because tourism is so important to Thailand's economy. With the military government and some bad press it's already suffering, and something like this, now could well harm the high season which is winter in Europe and North America. Very lucky with the 2nd bomb, I have a feeling I used that pier to do a tour of the floating village? And it was packed!
People who have lost their livelihoods or a big chunk of income are much more likely to come out against the current government who promised stability and unity when they took over last year.
Asian politics 101
Been thinking about this...(yes, I know, dangerous) and studying the image of the bomber who dropped the rucksack.
The clothing, its considerably oversize. The hair, very bushy , I'd guess, a wig , thick horn rimmed specs. Very pronounced.
So, bomber appears to be a spectacle wearer , with a bushy head of hair, who wears distinctive badly fitting oversized clothes , he's a bit of a disaster, eh?
Except for one thing, I reckon its a she!! Why? Wig appears bulky, could easily cover a female hairstlye tucked under it. Why the baggy clothes ? To obscure body shape, hips and tits primarily. The glasses, well, to obscure facial features, relevant irrespective of sex.
Basically, the dress emphasises a non descript male , especially the wig, from my perspective, good reason to think the opposite.
So, were I looking for suspects, it would not only be those termed "he".
The clothing, its considerably oversize. The hair, very bushy , I'd guess, a wig , thick horn rimmed specs. Very pronounced.
So, bomber appears to be a spectacle wearer , with a bushy head of hair, who wears distinctive badly fitting oversized clothes , he's a bit of a disaster, eh?
Except for one thing, I reckon its a she!! Why? Wig appears bulky, could easily cover a female hairstlye tucked under it. Why the baggy clothes ? To obscure body shape, hips and tits primarily. The glasses, well, to obscure facial features, relevant irrespective of sex.
Basically, the dress emphasises a non descript male , especially the wig, from my perspective, good reason to think the opposite.
So, were I looking for suspects, it would not only be those termed "he".
AJS- said:
It's one or the other.
Cheese Mechanic
Looked fairly average Thai or Asian male to me. But it is Thailand. Cross dressing terrorists don't rule anyone out!
There is a bit more meat on the bone. There is a vid of the bomber sat down and taking the rucksack off, its worth watching. From some angles, the bomber distinctly appears to have a narrow waist and wide hips. Down to the way T shirt form changes when the bomber is moving about. Cheese Mechanic
Looked fairly average Thai or Asian male to me. But it is Thailand. Cross dressing terrorists don't rule anyone out!
Haggleburyfinius said:
pork911 said:
Pesty said:
pork911 said:
its always had a very large muslim population
Always? there has been no real change in its size or prominence on the island anytime recently but hey its what he's noticed on his annual visits during his lifetime getting to know a place so the change must be without rather than within
having worked with all the major players in country (governments, royals, army, police and industrialists) i'd never mistake my own insights to be anything more than skimming the surface
anyway, as i've said it will be once the weekender at bernie's ends that the fan will be swept away with a torrent of s
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hora said:
Sometimes the BBC's news coverage annoys me- yesterday the reporter on the ground was in the crime scene shortly after it happened as it occurred just down the road from their offices. The camera panned over so you could see the bodies covered where they fell (the disclaimer 'you might find this distressing' was said) however why do the Beeb do this sometimes? Sensational and red-topesque? Wheres the decorum?
If I'm there, its just happened and a news crew pile in with the camera man, sound guy, presenter etc etc- what would I say to them?
I come home from workIf I'm there, its just happened and a news crew pile in with the camera man, sound guy, presenter etc etc- what would I say to them?
I see my little girl
She's crying on the floor
She's been watching that TV
This ain't late no, this ain't even dinner time
To show them things on that screen
What's wrong with you
You must be evil
Oh I know why you do it
You're just looking for sensation
You got a hold of something
You tell us that it's news
You don't have to show that stuff
Can't you show us some respect
You can tell us we don't need to see it
We don't need those cheap effects
You must be evil
You must be evil
I wish you were here
You don't have to show that stuff
You ain't fooling no-one
You made my little girl cry
I wish you were here
We all know why you do it
Sometimes you even slow it down
You're giving out some bad ideas here
I can't believe that you don't realise
You must be evil
It's an odd event, especially the photos of the westerner (US Citizen) that is being detained Thai police. He looks somewhat like the CCTV person and has some sort of scars on his arms, where in the video there were oddly placed armbands.
It's not really inline with the Muslims separatists in the south, nor in line with Muslims attacks in general. Not a suicide bombing and no one claiming credit.
I wouldn't be surprised if this was an internal politics setup, there have been plenty of bombs in the past, usually with minor injuries, perhaps they misjudged this one and it was a lot worse than they expected.
It's not really inline with the Muslims separatists in the south, nor in line with Muslims attacks in general. Not a suicide bombing and no one claiming credit.
I wouldn't be surprised if this was an internal politics setup, there have been plenty of bombs in the past, usually with minor injuries, perhaps they misjudged this one and it was a lot worse than they expected.
Haggleburyfinius said:
I hate to jump to conclusions...
But every time I go to Phuket, and that's most years, it seems to be more and more Islamic.
It's always been majority Islamic, the Buddhists are largely the visitors and economic migrants that go to work there.But every time I go to Phuket, and that's most years, it seems to be more and more Islamic.
rich85uk said:
there is and the muslim terrorists have killed thousands but it gets very little coverage, so it came as a bit of a shock that when i was in Thailand a friend was advised not to cross in Malaysia by land.
The border at Hat Yai is perfectly safe. The conflict is limited to other provinces like Pattani. Additionally there is absolutely no information to suggest they are targeting Westerners at all, no Westerners have been killed or injured in the years of violence. They have a beef with the Thai government and it's institutions like the army.you mean the PH 'because muslims' hair trigger may not be appropriate?
followed by a secondary 'the affect on tourism' projection, as if that has ever been of any real concern internally over that (quite rightly);)
anyhow, thai 'truth' will play (spin) out for those it benefits regarding this
- internal power plays and also for maybe a few more $ flowing inward from long established partners
followed by a secondary 'the affect on tourism' projection, as if that has ever been of any real concern internally over that (quite rightly);)
anyhow, thai 'truth' will play (spin) out for those it benefits regarding this
- internal power plays and also for maybe a few more $ flowing inward from long established partners
Haggleburyfinius said:
pork911 said:
Haggleburyfinius said:
I hate to jump to conclusions...
But every time I go to Phuket, and that's most years, it seems to be more and more Islamic.
huh, more islamic than when???But every time I go to Phuket, and that's most years, it seems to be more and more Islamic.
Not a difficult concept.
otolith said:
Haggleburyfinius said:
pork911 said:
Haggleburyfinius said:
I hate to jump to conclusions...
But every time I go to Phuket, and that's most years, it seems to be more and more Islamic.
huh, more islamic than when???But every time I go to Phuket, and that's most years, it seems to be more and more Islamic.
Not a difficult concept.
http://heavy.com/news/2015/08/bangkok-erawan-hindu...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-33969621
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-33969621
Edited by dudleybloke on Wednesday 19th August 02:19
Christ conspiracy nuts are going to go crazy over that. It will be jade helm x1000 cia false flag etc
T shirt is very distinctive. If they have found it in his luggage ( if he was stupid enough) should be pretty easy to prove.
They still execute people in Thai land..
T shirt is very distinctive. If they have found it in his luggage ( if he was stupid enough) should be pretty easy to prove.
They still execute people in Thai land..
Edited by Pesty on Wednesday 19th August 03:10
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