Are men afraid of transgender women?

[Vincefox]

anonymous said:

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A very young soul. Be patient.

[AJS-]

Luke Warm said:

Oh right. Well that's bks. Their official status is female, not female-but-used-to-be-a-man.

It even says female on their (edited) birth certificate.

So was it the recorded gender on this woman's birth certificate that traumatised these victims?

Or is is another crime where heterosexual men can't possibly be victims?

[KFC]

Luke Warm said:

Oh right. Well that's bks. Their official status is female, not female-but-used-to-be-a-man.

It even says female on their (edited) birth certificate.

If they want to pretend (and I do see it as pretending) that they're female, I have absolutely no problem with that in itself.

I just don't think they should be allowed to impose this on someone else without their express consent.


Though I suppose if it ever happened to me its karma for those young ladies back in my early 20's.... I never actually played for Chelsea and I didn't win £10m on the lottery either.

[Axionknight]

Luke Warm said:

Axionknight said:

He did have a cock and was a male though, right?

Female brain, male genitals. Now has a female brain and genitals. And breasts. To all intents and purposes, it's a woman.

What about his chromosones? Bloke like XY or lady like XX? Surely your make up defines what you really are? You can have as much surgery ad you like and call yourself what you want - but underneath it all, your still a fella if that's how you were made up.

Female brain eh, so basically a bloke who likes to nag, shop and tidy their partners car keys away into unimaginable, unfindable places?

[Luke Warm]

KFC said:

If they want to pretend (and I do see it as pretending) that they're female, I have absolutely no problem with that in itself.

I just don't think they should be allowed to impose this on someone else without their express consent.


Though I suppose if it ever happened to me its karma for those young ladies back in my early 20's.... I never actually played for Chelsea and I didn't win £10m on the lottery either.

Yeah, well the law doesn't see it as pretending. Nor does the medical profession, who I think know more about it than you.

[CorbynFTW]

I've been in the office when we've been told Geoff from accounts is to be called Gail from Monday.








And will use the ladies bogs....

We, the men, found it hilarious, the women went mental

[gruffalo]

TheSnitch said:

gruffalo said:

not really equal.

There is 2% difference in the DNA of a human male and a chimp male, like wise there is a 2% difference in the DNA of a female human and a female chimp.

Interestingly there is a 2% difference in the DNA of a male human and a female human.

Human men are as different from human women are as we are different to chimps.

No there isn't.

Both males and females possess the X chromosome, females have two copies. In females, only one is 'switched on' in each cell.

Males have one X chromosome and one Y chromosome. The Y chromosome is quite small, contains 78 genes, and basically doesn't do a lot except instruct the body to grow a penis. In terms of the amount it contributes to the overall genome, it's about 0.3%. The X chromosome is much larger.

So there is actually a very small difference in the DNA of a male human and a female human

Not wrong.

As you know, men have an X and a Y chromosome and women have two X chromosomes. So besides the usual 0.1% (or 3.2 million base pair) difference between people, men and women differ by the presence of the Y chromosome.

The Y chromosome is a tiny thing; it is about 59 million base pairs long and has only 78 genes. If we look at base pairs, the difference between men and women would be 59 million divided by 3.2 billion or about 1.8%. This translates to men and women being 98.2% the same.

[Gecko1978]

My wife is queen of st tv was watching that call me Bruce I want my knob chopped off Jenner caitlyn chick with a dick show. An they went to a charity that supports transgender people and heard some of their stories. One told of how they worked as a prostitute to make ends meet an one night a client picked her up in a car did the deed then drew a knife stabbed her etc who runs from the car an the guy tried to run her down. So while I find wanting to wear size 11 high heals and your knob chopped off odd it's a whole other level deciding you want to shag an kill a chick with a dick....what a messed up world.we live in.

Oh an while you might see a women an think wow soon as I found out it was born a man that would end the desire for me. Just the way I am wired just like some guys wish they were women I guess.

[GroundEffect]

Axionknight said:

Luke Warm said:

Axionknight said:

He did have a cock and was a male though, right?

Female brain, male genitals. Now has a female brain and genitals. And breasts. To all intents and purposes, it's a woman.

What about his chromosones? Bloke like XY or lady like XX? Surely your make up defines what you really are? You can have as much surgery ad you like and call yourself what you want - but underneath it all, your still a fella if that's how you were made up.

Female brain eh, so basically a bloke who likes to nag, shop and tidy their partners car keys away into unimaginable, unfindable places?

Humans, as well as some other organisms, can have a chromosomal arrangement that is contrary to their phenotypic sex; for example, XX males or XY females (see androgen insensitivity syndrome). Additionally, an abnormal number of sex chromosomes (aneuploidy) may be present, such as Turner's syndrome, in which a single X chromosome is present, and Klinefelter's syndrome, in which two X chromosomes and a Y chromosome are present, XYY syndrome and XXYY syndrome.[1] Other less common chromosomal arrangements include: triple X syndrome, 48, XXXX, and 49, XXXXX.

Above from wiki on chromosomes.

So how do you define these people? A man having XX chromosomes? Is he a woman really?

[TheSnitch]

gruffalo said:

Not wrong.

As you know, men have an X and a Y chromosome and women have two X chromosomes. So besides the usual 0.1% (or 3.2 million base pair) difference between people, men and women differ by the presence of the Y chromosome.

The Y chromosome is a tiny thing; it is about 59 million base pairs long and has only 78 genes. If we look at base pairs, the difference between men and women would be 59 million divided by 3.2 billion or about 1.8%. This translates to men and women being 98.2% the same.

Okay. I compared coding DNA, which personally I feel is a more valid comparison than base pairs, given that we were looking at functional differences.
Depends how you want to look at it and represent the data, I guess

[r11co]

Cheese Mechanic said:

Can it give birth?

Idiotic, ignorant and offensive statement. Many, many women are born with or develop the inability to conceive and carry a child to birth.

[r11co]

KFC said:

I just don't think they should be allowed to impose this on someone else without their express consent.

WTF does that mean? I suspect you are conflating two different prejudices there and using your stock argument.

KFC said:

Luke Warm said:

An autistic lesbian pretends to be a boy to get a girl.

What's that got to do with transgenders?

I would have thought you can see the connection. They're both being less than honest with sexual partners about their own status, to get them in bed.

Yup, that confirms my suspicion. Someone else who doesn't know the difference between gender and sexuality. Next you'll be telling me that crossdressers are the same thing as transsexuals.

Edited by r11co on Wednesday 19th August 22:02

[PugwasHDJ80]

r11co said:

Cheese Mechanic said:

Can it give birth?

Idiotic, ignorant and offensive statement. Many, many women are born with or develop the inability to conceive and carry a child to birth.

Well said

Some of the posters on here really need to grow up.

[TheSnitch]

GroundEffect said:

Axionknight said:

Luke Warm said:

Axionknight said:

He did have a cock and was a male though, right?

Female brain, male genitals. Now has a female brain and genitals. And breasts. To all intents and purposes, it's a woman.

What about his chromosones? Bloke like XY or lady like XX? Surely your make up defines what you really are? You can have as much surgery ad you like and call yourself what you want - but underneath it all, your still a fella if that's how you were made up.

Female brain eh, so basically a bloke who likes to nag, shop and tidy their partners car keys away into unimaginable, unfindable places?

Humans, as well as some other organisms, can have a chromosomal arrangement that is contrary to their phenotypic sex; for example, XX males or XY females (see androgen insensitivity syndrome). Additionally, an abnormal number of sex chromosomes (aneuploidy) may be present, such as Turner's syndrome, in which a single X chromosome is present, and Klinefelter's syndrome, in which two X chromosomes and a Y chromosome are present, XYY syndrome and XXYY syndrome.[1] Other less common chromosomal arrangements include: triple X syndrome, 48, XXXX, and 49, XXXXX.

Above from wiki on chromosomes.

So how do you define these people? A man having XX chromosomes? Is he a woman really?

The term ''intersex'' is often used https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex

[Cheese Mechanic]

PugwasHDJ80 said:

r11co said:

Cheese Mechanic said:

Can it give birth?

Idiotic, ignorant and offensive statement. Many, many women are born with or develop the inability to conceive and carry a child to birth.

Well said

Some of the posters on here really need to grow up.

If it cannot give birth, is it female? Is it female if it was designed to give birth , yet cannot?

If it was a bloke, it never was designed to give birth, so was never female. Pretty simple, unless you are stupid.

[GroundEffect]

TheSnitch said:

GroundEffect said:

Axionknight said:

Luke Warm said:

Axionknight said:

He did have a cock and was a male though, right?

Female brain, male genitals. Now has a female brain and genitals. And breasts. To all intents and purposes, it's a woman.

What about his chromosones? Bloke like XY or lady like XX? Surely your make up defines what you really are? You can have as much surgery ad you like and call yourself what you want - but underneath it all, your still a fella if that's how you were made up.

Female brain eh, so basically a bloke who likes to nag, shop and tidy their partners car keys away into unimaginable, unfindable places?

Humans, as well as some other organisms, can have a chromosomal arrangement that is contrary to their phenotypic sex; for example, XX males or XY females (see androgen insensitivity syndrome). Additionally, an abnormal number of sex chromosomes (aneuploidy) may be present, such as Turner's syndrome, in which a single X chromosome is present, and Klinefelter's syndrome, in which two X chromosomes and a Y chromosome are present, XYY syndrome and XXYY syndrome.[1] Other less common chromosomal arrangements include: triple X syndrome, 48, XXXX, and 49, XXXXX.

Above from wiki on chromosomes.

So how do you define these people? A man having XX chromosomes? Is he a woman really?

The term ''intersex'' is often used https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex

Which will probably be pushed under the rug in his 'everything is black and white!' View.

[r11co]

Cheese Mechanic said:

If it cannot give birth, is it female? Is it female if it was designed to give birth , yet cannot?

If it was a bloke, it never was designed to give birth, so was never female. Pretty simple, unless you are stupid.

So, how exactly does your simplistic and incomplete view marry-up with people born with different chromosomal arrangements to the most common XX and XY? 'Male' and 'female' as we refer to them are by far the most common 'genders' but they are not by nature the only two that exist.

I am waiting for some idiot to now point out that these few people born with different chromosomal arrangements are 'freaks', but unless you are a creationist you should know that human gender 'norms' are a result of evolution and no-one decided they were 'correct'.

Other species show very different characteristics as their evolved norms, such as the ability to change sex etc.

Edited by r11co on Wednesday 19th August 22:13

[PugwasHDJ80]

Cheese Mechanic said:

PugwasHDJ80 said:

r11co said:

Cheese Mechanic said:

Can it give birth?

Idiotic, ignorant and offensive statement. Many, many women are born with or develop the inability to conceive and carry a child to birth.

Well said

Some of the posters on here really need to grow up.

If it cannot give birth, is it female? Is it female if it was designed to give birth , yet cannot?

If it was a bloke, it never was designed to give birth, so was never female. Pretty simple, unless you are stupid.

If you can only see the world in those terms then I suspect it's you who is lacking in either intelligence or education, or both.

[Cheese Mechanic]

PugwasHDJ80 said:

Cheese Mechanic said:

PugwasHDJ80 said:

r11co said:

Cheese Mechanic said:

Can it give birth?

Idiotic, ignorant and offensive statement. Many, many women are born with or develop the inability to conceive and carry a child to birth.

Well said

Some of the posters on here really need to grow up.

If it cannot give birth, is it female? Is it female if it was designed to give birth , yet cannot?

If it was a bloke, it never was designed to give birth, so was never female. Pretty simple, unless you are stupid.

If you can only see the world in those terms then I suspect it's you who is lacking in either intelligence or education, or both.

Nope. Was a male ever designed to give birth? If he was, please explain why and how. Please explain why there were two sexes, after all, why bother?

[Cheese Mechanic]

anonymous said:

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Curious, when was a male designed to give birth? Why was a male designed to be a woman?