Men discover mythical buried secret Nazi train of gold...
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I've been chatting to someone at work who grew up in Walbrzych, he said everyone around there has grown up knowing about the train but always as myth and legend. No one quite knowing if it's true or not, but at some point everyone local and more besides have always been on the hunt somehow.
He said it's always been thought by locals to be very close to the castle if it does exist, I'll ask him for some local news links and see if he hears any more as he still has family in the area.
I find it very interesting!
He said it's always been thought by locals to be very close to the castle if it does exist, I'll ask him for some local news links and see if he hears any more as he still has family in the area.
I find it very interesting!
djdest said:
I've been chatting to someone at work who grew up in Walbrzych, he said everyone around there has grown up knowing about the train but always as myth and legend. No one quite knowing if it's true or not, but at some point everyone local and more besides have always been on the hunt somehow.
He said it's always been thought by locals to be very close to the castle if it does exist, I'll ask him for some local news links and see if he hears any more as he still has family in the area.
I find it very interesting!
On the map a few posts above, the castle is directly west of the red marked ellipse, but just off the map. The castle was well tunneled apparently - I think this is a fact. I had a look on google maps but there is no evidence of any "secret siding" that would be needed to get a whole train from a main line into a tunnel system. I think there would be evidence of this kind of civil engineering would be impossible to completely remove from sat imagery. There might be more likely possibilities to the south - lots of industrial sidings etc. He said it's always been thought by locals to be very close to the castle if it does exist, I'll ask him for some local news links and see if he hears any more as he still has family in the area.
I find it very interesting!
You'd be surprised!
Myself and a friend have a big interest in the mines, queries and tunnels around the area we live.
There are over 100 miles of tunnels in the 3 mines closest to the town alone, some huge queries and rail systems were in place between them all too, yet now there are hardly any tell tail signs left to be seen on satellite images unless you really know what you're looking for.
Remember, these mines and queries were just built in the open too, where as the German ones were all built to be stealth and hidden from the start, so its no surprise there is little left now.
The ones we have visited locally have at least 50 years old overgrowth and nature taking over, the entrance of some mines that were filled in when they shut down have taken literally years to find, even with old maps showing where they were.
Also, remember that what was a siding 70 years ago, can easily of had the track taken up and have zero evidence of it ever being there.
70 years of over growth etc can soon hide things from view
Myself and a friend have a big interest in the mines, queries and tunnels around the area we live.
There are over 100 miles of tunnels in the 3 mines closest to the town alone, some huge queries and rail systems were in place between them all too, yet now there are hardly any tell tail signs left to be seen on satellite images unless you really know what you're looking for.
Remember, these mines and queries were just built in the open too, where as the German ones were all built to be stealth and hidden from the start, so its no surprise there is little left now.
The ones we have visited locally have at least 50 years old overgrowth and nature taking over, the entrance of some mines that were filled in when they shut down have taken literally years to find, even with old maps showing where they were.
Also, remember that what was a siding 70 years ago, can easily of had the track taken up and have zero evidence of it ever being there.
70 years of over growth etc can soon hide things from view
Edited by djdest on Saturday 29th August 15:32
[quote=FourWheelDrift]
And Project Reisse - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Riese
/quote]
It's an interesting project, but 'Reisse' and 'Riese' are very different words.
Tear and giant.
And Project Reisse - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Riese
/quote]
It's an interesting project, but 'Reisse' and 'Riese' are very different words.
Tear and giant.
Edited by RobinBanks on Saturday 29th August 16:11
djdest said:
You'd be surprised!
Myself and a friend have a big interest in the mines, queries and tunnels around the area we live.
There are over 100 miles of tunnels in the 3 mines closest to the town alone, some huge queries and rail systems were in place between them all too, yet now there are hardly any tell tail signs left to be seen on satellite images unless you really know what you're looking for.
Remember, these mines and queries were just built in the open too, where as the German ones were all built to be stealth and hidden from the start, so its no surprise there is little left now.
The ones we have visited locally have at least 50 years old overgrowth and nature taking over, the entrance of some mines that were filled in when they shut down have taken literally years to find, even with old maps showing where they were.
Also, remember that what was a siding 70 years ago, can easily of had the track taken up and have zero evidence of it ever being there.
70 years of over growth etc can soon hide things from view
Do you have access to Lidar images of the area ?. Myself and a friend have a big interest in the mines, queries and tunnels around the area we live.
There are over 100 miles of tunnels in the 3 mines closest to the town alone, some huge queries and rail systems were in place between them all too, yet now there are hardly any tell tail signs left to be seen on satellite images unless you really know what you're looking for.
Remember, these mines and queries were just built in the open too, where as the German ones were all built to be stealth and hidden from the start, so its no surprise there is little left now.
The ones we have visited locally have at least 50 years old overgrowth and nature taking over, the entrance of some mines that were filled in when they shut down have taken literally years to find, even with old maps showing where they were.
Also, remember that what was a siding 70 years ago, can easily of had the track taken up and have zero evidence of it ever being there.
70 years of over growth etc can soon hide things from view
Edited by djdest on Saturday 29th August 15:32
Really interesting what such data can show up.
It would be very handy for finding quarries but sadly don't have access to it.
Any way.... back to the train
This link has a bit more info and photos than the others posted so far
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-22/where-lon...
Any way.... back to the train
This link has a bit more info and photos than the others posted so far
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-22/where-lon...
djdest said:
It would be very handy for finding quarries but sadly don't have access to it.
Any way.... back to the train
This link has a bit more info and photos than the others posted so far
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-22/where-lon...
Interesting, that photo of the pylon does look like the main potentially suspicious area I found on google maps - see the line in the centre here, it is a gap in the trees with powerlines though goes towards the existing track - plus a strange ditch heading towards the castle on the left of that gap.Any way.... back to the train
This link has a bit more info and photos than the others posted so far
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-22/where-lon...
and looking in 3D from the main track towards the castle, it does head towards it.
still not much evidence of any side/branch line though - usually even with train tracks unused for decades with years of agricultural use on top, there is still pretty clear evidence.
Edited by ///ajd on Saturday 29th August 18:06
in that link the first suggestion looks quite convincing, and similar to the photo.
that definitely looks like an old siding/track - the radius is correct and appears to be 'cut' from a gradient point of view. but it's so obvious, and with the legend dating back to the war, surely that has been looked at before?
looking at the map, that is also the easiest/most direct link to the castle from the existing track, so it is plausible - plus a tunnel is unavoidable due to the terrain under the castle.
that definitely looks like an old siding/track - the radius is correct and appears to be 'cut' from a gradient point of view. but it's so obvious, and with the legend dating back to the war, surely that has been looked at before?
looking at the map, that is also the easiest/most direct link to the castle from the existing track, so it is plausible - plus a tunnel is unavoidable due to the terrain under the castle.
Edited by ///ajd on Sunday 30th August 09:22
"A man who spent half his life searching for the missing train has revealed the murder, secret police intimidation, and deathbed confession that led to its sensational discovery."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3216741/A-...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3216741/A-...
djdest said:
My friend who used to live there told me today he heard the polish army have been given the green light to start searching in the areas in question
Being reported as such in the media. Areas in question being cordoned off. Apparently, official Polish sources are stating that the two men who came forward with lawyers wanting 10% "finders fee" will get exactly that . Whether what is found becomes state property, or anything traceable back to individuals/institutions. 
Cheese Mechanic said:
djdest said:
My friend who used to live there told me today he heard the polish army have been given the green light to start searching in the areas in question
Being reported as such in the media. Areas in question being cordoned off. Apparently, official Polish sources are stating that the two men who came forward with lawyers wanting 10% "finders fee" will get exactly that . Whether what is found becomes state property, or anything traceable back to individuals/institutions. It's all a load of tosh and will amount to very little. Possibly a rusted out couple of carriages that when found some old people who are not dead yet will suddenly remember they were there.
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