Police appeal after female cyclist pushed to ground by ped
Discussion
otolith said:
Funny, in the thread about the guy having his Aston keyed on camera, I'm not seeing many people saying that he only parked there so that he could get some keying footage for YouTube, and really it serves him right for having such a provocative car.
Damned dashcam vigilantes
You, and others, seem fixated on the serves them right bit which nobody is arguing.Damned dashcam vigilantes
Maybe the Aston driver installed a dashcam because they'd had the car keyed before, like maybe the cyclist fitted a headcam because they've got into confrontations on the road before.
That one's quite similar actually. Person buys nice car, idiot decides to key it. Person could reduce chances of this happening by never leaving the car unattended or always leaving the car somewhere secure.
Of course the person should be allowed to leave the car anywhere without fear of it being vandalised, just like the cyclist should be allowed to be rude/make hand signals to people without fear of being assaulted.
Unfortunately that's not how the real world is sometimes, unfair. I realise that complaining about how unfair everything is on the internet is better than taking matters into your own hands though.
hornetrider said:
Finally! So you agree that flipping the bird in this instance caused him to assault her. I'm glad we got there in the end. No bird, no assault.
No more than drawing mohammed was the cause of being shot for CH.Grow some balls. The cause is that the attacker is a psycho and anything that gets that knowledge out in the open is a good thing, because it allows us to fix it.
If you can't tell someone they're a knob for fear of being attacked, then you're more pathetic than the woman who gets attacked.
paranoid airbag said:
If you can't tell someone they're a knob for fear of being attacked, then you're more pathetic than the woman who gets attacked.
Don't be a fool. If you go around deliberately abusing people and winding them up, a consequence may be that people take direct action. It's not right, but, that's life. If you don't want a smack, don't provoke people and put yourself in that position!
Jasandjules said:
Interesting, I thought I read she spoke to him first about not pushing her over?
"She had asked the man not to cross the road until she had cycled past" - from the paper...
in not so many words "She had asked the man not to cross the road until she had cycled past" - from the paper...
while he was standing waiting to cross behind her
hornetrider edited a bit said:
As far as I can tell, sequence of events is:
1. Him crossing the road aiming behind her it seems to me.
2. Her saying 'please don't try and knock me off'
(don't know why she says this, for the benefit of her headcam YT fans?)
3. Him saying 'Shut up' plus something unintelligible
4. Cyclist gives him a finger
5. Bloke sprints up and shouts at her for giving him the finger, then pushes her off.
Fair summary?
Like many dash/head cam videos it quickly escalates, courtesy gone out the window1. Him crossing the road aiming behind her it seems to me.
2. Her saying 'please don't try and knock me off'
(don't know why she says this, for the benefit of her headcam YT fans?)
3. Him saying 'Shut up' plus something unintelligible
4. Cyclist gives him a finger
5. Bloke sprints up and shouts at her for giving him the finger, then pushes her off.
Fair summary?
Can someone let me out before they take over the world
Calletrece said:
Don't be a fool.
If you go around deliberately abusing people and winding them up, a consequence may be that people take direct action. It's not right, but, that's life. If you don't want a smack, don't provoke people and put yourself in that position!
Quite right. Pull a dogs tail enough , or even dog(s) tail(s) and eventually, yup! You will get bitten. If you go around deliberately abusing people and winding them up, a consequence may be that people take direct action. It's not right, but, that's life. If you don't want a smack, don't provoke people and put yourself in that position!
Cheese Mechanic said:
Quite right. Pull a dogs tail enough , or even dog(s) tail(s) and eventually, yup! You will get bitten.
Yet, surprisingly, flicking the bird at my dog has almost never elicited any kind of reaction at all. (Other than the occasional excited licking of his balls, and since he does that all the time I didn't think they were correlated.)So what you are saying is that dogs are actually better behaved than the man in this case.
walm said:
Cheese Mechanic said:
Quite right. Pull a dogs tail enough , or even dog(s) tail(s) and eventually, yup! You will get bitten.
Yet, surprisingly, flicking the bird at my dog has almost never elicited any kind of reaction at all. (Other than the occasional excited licking of his balls, and since he does that all the time I didn't think they were correlated.)So what you are saying is that dogs are actually better behaved than the man in this case.
Jasandjules said:
Having seen on the news that a pony was covered in lighter fluid and set alight, am I the only one thinking that this cyclist is getting far too much air and police time and there are more important things for the police to do?
That's next week's trial by social media/thing for people to get upset about not this week's! Jeez 
Exige77 said:
hornetrider said:
You've failed to understand what I have written. Just to clarify once more because you don't seem to understand. I am not in any way justifying him attacking her in any way.
I'll repeat the question for you, s-l-o-w-l-y:
Would he have lamped her if she hadn't flipped him the bird?
^^^^Exactly this.I'll repeat the question for you, s-l-o-w-l-y:
Would he have lamped her if she hadn't flipped him the bird?
Cause and affect. It might not be everybody's liking, legal or moral, but action A prompted action B.
Every 5 minutes there's a moan from someone having received a fine or warning for speeding or some other offence. I don't see the same volume of cause and effect responses. And that's responding to something that's actually illegal.
Likewise I recall a thread where a cyclist admitted to damaging a car who drove dangerously close. PH'ers weren't then saying that the driver should expect such retribution because of cause and effect.
Funny that, seems like double standards by PHers.
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