190,000 members and no-one willing to lend him a iron?

190,000 members and no-one willing to lend him a iron?

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Some Gump

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12,691 posts

186 months

Thursday 27th August 2015
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So, this Corby fella. I realise his politics aren't that aligned to mine and therefore i may be biased - but is he the worst presented public figure in recent history?

I can't imagine even an estate agent turning up to work in an unironed shirt. How can he think looking like a really bad geography teacher is suitable for the leader of a country?

Pickled

2,051 posts

143 months

Thursday 27th August 2015
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Too young to remember Michael Foot?


NoNeed

15,137 posts

200 months

Thursday 27th August 2015
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He doesn't have to lead the country and probably wont, but for the next four years he has to make sure that Cameron does, and does it properly.



If he does a good job then the public will decide if they want him to have the main job.

eldar

21,752 posts

196 months

Thursday 27th August 2015
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NoNeed said:
He doesn't have to lead the country and probably wont, but for the next four years he has to make sure that Cameron does, and does it properly.
Indeed. And will probably be quite good at it, then be overthrown.

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

167 months

Thursday 27th August 2015
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Pickled said:
Too young to remember Michael Foot?
Or Shirley Williams

Beati Dogu

8,892 posts

139 months

Thursday 27th August 2015
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You'd think he'd have a Corby trouser press.

Derek Smith

45,661 posts

248 months

Thursday 27th August 2015
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One of the problems with modern politics is the importance of image. It wasn't for nothing that the media featured the picture of Milliband eating a bacon sarnie with a certain lack of grace. Roosavelt was criticised for not being seen in a wheelchair after his bout of polio. He was pretty sharp there though. Nowadays, of course, someone wheelchair bound for reasons of disease wouldn't stand a chance of being elected president.

Shirley Williams, regardless of what you think of her politics and religious nuttery, had a formidable intellect. She was, by all accounts, impressive. Even her political enemies gave her that. I would suggest that it is a shame we haven't more MPs her intellectual equivalent. Her choice of attire is immaterial.

I don't like Corbyn. But to criticise him for the way he dresses mirrors, to an extent, the limitations that a prospective leader faces. Looking good is an essential it would appear.


anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 27th August 2015
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I rather a scruffy person, than the other plastic media obsessed people. He just seems more approachable in politics which since Tony Blair has become very Americanized.

Fishtigua

9,786 posts

195 months

Thursday 27th August 2015
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Give me a mavrick any time. Bland, cookie-cutter, Mr. Nice in a suit is just a paid-for spokesperson who would shyte down the throat of the electorate for one more rung on the power ladder.

fk'em. Give me a smart, bright, passionate speaker (of any colour) rather than a bland walkover.

I even liked Tony Benn.

eldar

21,752 posts

196 months

Thursday 27th August 2015
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Fishtigua said:
Give me a mavrick any time. Bland, cookie-cutter, Mr. Nice in a suit is just a paid-for spokesperson who would shyte down the throat of the electorate for one more rung on the power ladder.

fk'em. Give me a smart, bright, passionate speaker (of any colour) rather than a bland walkover.

I even liked Tony Benn.
Germany, 1930s?

Some Gump

Original Poster:

12,691 posts

186 months

Thursday 27th August 2015
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I'm not saying i expect everyone to be dapper dan. However, he's in a leadership contest - that is like a job interview. Woukd any pher turn up to a job interview with a cumpled shirt that looks like it fits your brother?

I want the opposition to be credible, to keep the cureent mob on their toes. I just can't see how this chap can be credible when he presents himself so badly. Can you imagine him stood opposit hollande, obama etc and no just looking daft?

glazbagun

14,280 posts

197 months

Thursday 27th August 2015
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eldar said:
Fishtigua said:
Give me a mavrick any time. Bland, cookie-cutter, Mr. Nice in a suit is just a paid-for spokesperson who would shyte down the throat of the electorate for one more rung on the power ladder.

fk'em. Give me a smart, bright, passionate speaker (of any colour) rather than a bland walkover.

I even liked Tony Benn.
Germany, 1930s?
See? Look where voting for the smartly dressed guys gets you.

Octoposse

2,160 posts

185 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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Thanks to Frankie Boyle in the Guardian I spluttered coffee all over my laptop:

Frankie Boyle said:
Every photo of the candidates looks like the staff room of a failing comprehensive feigning amusement at being photobombed by the janitor.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/aug/...

eccles

13,733 posts

222 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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Some Gump said:
I'm not saying i expect everyone to be dapper dan. However, he's in a leadership contest - that is like a job interview. Woukd any pher turn up to a job interview with a cumpled shirt that looks like it fits your brother?

I want the opposition to be credible, to keep the cureent mob on their toes. I just can't see how this chap can be credible when he presents himself so badly. Can you imagine him stood opposit hollande, obama etc and no just looking daft?
That's just it though. Part of the reason he's so popular is that he's not just another faceless suit with carefully choreographed soundbytes and hand gestures.
So what if he doesn't conform the corporate image, he's got passion and a degree of eloquence.

Dog Star

16,132 posts

168 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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Some Gump said:
I'm not saying i expect everyone to be dapper dan. However, he's in a leadership contest - that is like a job interview. Woukd any pher turn up to a job interview with a cumpled shirt that looks like it fits your brother?

I want the opposition to be credible, to keep the cureent mob on their toes. I just can't see how this chap can be credible when he presents himself so badly. Can you imagine him stood opposit hollande, obama etc and no just looking daft?
Completely with you on this one, and your point re. Obama etc is dead right. People around the world would be going "wtf?".

Having said that I don't imagine the UK would be on the world stage for long with him at the helm.

Guybrush

4,350 posts

206 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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I'm quite sure his 'dressing down' and 'man of the people' look is just as contrived and well considered as the person in a smart suit.

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

137 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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Dog Star said:
Some Gump said:
I'm not saying i expect everyone to be dapper dan. However, he's in a leadership contest - that is like a job interview. Woukd any pher turn up to a job interview with a cumpled shirt that looks like it fits your brother?

I want the opposition to be credible, to keep the cureent mob on their toes. I just can't see how this chap can be credible when he presents himself so badly. Can you imagine him stood opposit hollande, obama etc and no just looking daft?
Completely with you on this one, and your point re. Obama etc is dead right. People around the world would be going "wtf?".
I feel the same about Boris Johnson.

JuniorD

8,626 posts

223 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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PH would suck the balls off Farage, yet Corbyn is too scruffy?


Cheese Mechanic

3,157 posts

169 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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eccles said:
That's just it though. Part of the reason he's so popular is that he's not just another faceless suit with carefully choreographed soundbytes and hand gestures.
So what if he doesn't conform the corporate image, he's got passion and a degree of eloquence.
He's only popular amongst the ideologically deluded. Just like Foot was once.

To the avrage man he is a crank, and hopefully will preside over the demolition of the spite and envy driven Labour Party.

HoHoHo

14,987 posts

250 months

Friday 28th August 2015
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Pickled said:
Too young to remember Michael Foot?
I know he's not a leader but have you ever seen Ken Livingstone?

We supplied a load of AV for an event he was speaking at and he was a right fecking mess, looked like he'd been sleeping on the street for a week hehe