Allergy to wifi = £500 per month disability allowance
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Daily Telegraph
Fortunately this article is about a case in France, but it won't take long for the feckless here to grasp on to this!
Fortunately this article is about a case in France, but it won't take long for the feckless here to grasp on to this!
Daft.
If i was in charge of such things i would offer her the chance to put her case forward by sitting in two separate rooms - One with wifi and one wifi 'proof'. If she can identify the one with wifi she can have the £500, if she can't she needs to pay £500.
Alternatively, just wrap her in tinfoil. That's surely a cheaper solution.
If i was in charge of such things i would offer her the chance to put her case forward by sitting in two separate rooms - One with wifi and one wifi 'proof'. If she can identify the one with wifi she can have the £500, if she can't she needs to pay £500.
Alternatively, just wrap her in tinfoil. That's surely a cheaper solution.
Puggit][url said:
Daily Telegraph|.....but it won't take long for the feckless here to grasp on to this!
The catch is - you have to live in the middle of nowhere away from society and more importantly most technology.So no flat screen TV or Sky, no mobile phone, no PS3/X-box, no internet etc.........somehow I doubt many feckless people would be up for that.
R8Steve said:
Daft.
If i was in charge of such things i would offer her the chance to put her case forward by sitting in two separate rooms - One with wifi and one wifi 'proof'. If she can identify the one with wifi she can have the £500, if she can't she needs to pay £500.
Alternatively, just wrap her in tinfoil. That's surely a cheaper solution.
Oddly there are tests that show people who can detect wifi, so I wouldn't think it's impossible.If i was in charge of such things i would offer her the chance to put her case forward by sitting in two separate rooms - One with wifi and one wifi 'proof'. If she can identify the one with wifi she can have the £500, if she can't she needs to pay £500.
Alternatively, just wrap her in tinfoil. That's surely a cheaper solution.
NWTony said:
Are there? can you give me a link to a suitable journal?
As a graduate RF engineer I worked on a project funded by and looking into this area with the TETRA radio system, the long and short of which was that there is a small percentage of the population that have heightened sensitivity to electromagnetic radiation. TETRA radio is different to WiFi in many ways but I wouldn't discount the possibility that people could be effected by WiFi but I've never been aware that there is any adverse health defects to these "sensitivities" but I think they do exists. I couldn't find anything on the web on the study I worked on but I did find this...http://www.tetrahealth.org.uk/documents/HPA_Electr...
Heartworm said:
R8Steve said:
Daft.
If i was in charge of such things i would offer her the chance to put her case forward by sitting in two separate rooms - One with wifi and one wifi 'proof'. If she can identify the one with wifi she can have the £500, if she can't she needs to pay £500.
Alternatively, just wrap her in tinfoil. That's surely a cheaper solution.
Oddly there are tests that show people who can detect wifi, so I wouldn't think it's impossible.If i was in charge of such things i would offer her the chance to put her case forward by sitting in two separate rooms - One with wifi and one wifi 'proof'. If she can identify the one with wifi she can have the £500, if she can't she needs to pay £500.
Alternatively, just wrap her in tinfoil. That's surely a cheaper solution.
I wonder can she connect to Bluetooth as well.
FredClogs said:
As a graduate RF engineer I worked on a project funded by and looking into this area with the TETRA radio system, the long and short of which was that there is a small percentage of the population that have heightened sensitivity to electromagnetic radiation. TETRA radio is different to WiFi in many ways but I wouldn't discount the possibility that people could be effected by WiFi but I've never been aware that there is any adverse health defects to these "sensitivities" but I think they do exists. I couldn't find anything on the web on the study I worked on but I did find this...
http://www.tetrahealth.org.uk/documents/HPA_Electr...
Which, I'm afraid, says nothing of the sort.http://www.tetrahealth.org.uk/documents/HPA_Electr...
FredClogs said:
NWTony said:
Are there? can you give me a link to a suitable journal?
As a graduate RF engineer I worked on a project funded by and looking into this area with the TETRA radio system, the long and short of which was that there is a small percentage of the population that have heightened sensitivity to electromagnetic radiation. TETRA radio is different to WiFi in many ways but I wouldn't discount the possibility that people could be effected by WiFi but I've never been aware that there is any adverse health defects to these "sensitivities" but I think they do exists. I couldn't find anything on the web on the study I worked on but I did find this...http://www.tetrahealth.org.uk/documents/HPA_Electr...
even if you accept the premise, remind us all what ERP TETRA runs at compared to Wifi?
this is the same tosh spoken about Cell phones.
Now, I have no issue with questioning the effects of living under high voltage power lines, where you're dealing with massive electro magnetic fields, compared to a few mw for Wifi, etc.
If people were that sensitive to this, nobody would be able to be within 100M of a microwave oven, or god forbid, in the line of a point to point microwave link (if this were the case, most of the people that work in the city would be screwed).
Jimboka said:
Is there really an appetite to be outraged at a daft benefit story from France. I thought there would be plenty of exaggerated UK ones to waste internet electricity on !
I don't think a single poster has shown any outrage. The danger lies in this ailment crossing the Channel...I have to agree that this is all bunk. Having said that after 15 years of working in very close proximity to live antennas I've developed a mild sensitivity to RF in that I'll get a tingling sensation in my hand if I'm holding my phone when it is transmitting or receiving. Whether it is as a result of years of accumulated exposure I do not know although if I ever stray into a hot spot on a tower I generally sense it before my alarm goes off.
I don't get anything with WIFI even after spending all evening sprawled across the sofa with my laptop open.
I don't get anything with WIFI even after spending all evening sprawled across the sofa with my laptop open.
Edited by jurbie on Tuesday 1st September 11:27
jurbie said:
If there is anyone in the line of a point to point microwave then you need to go back and look at your line of sight survey but in all seriousness I have to agree that this is all bunk. Having said that after 15 years of working in very close proximity to live antennas I've developed a mild sensitivity to RF in that I'll get a tingling sensation in my hand if I'm holding my phone when it is transmitting or receiving. Whether it is as a result of years of accumulated exposure I do not know although if I ever stray into a hot spot on a tower I generally sense it before my alarm goes off.
I don't get anything with WIFI even after spending all evening sprawled across the sofa with my laptop open.
It's a super power, continued practice will allow you to raise the fur on a cats back just by gesturing at it.I don't get anything with WIFI even after spending all evening sprawled across the sofa with my laptop open.
And then you can begin your world domination plan.
Bullett said:
I was reading about some double blind tests they did with people who claimed EMF sensitivity. I think the summary was that they couldn't reliably identify when they were being exposed or not.
To play Devil's advocate a moment; I can't reliably tell if I'm being exposed to Salmonella or Listeria, could still get the squits though.Einion Yrth said:
To play Devil's advocate a moment; I can't reliably tell if I'm being exposed to Salmonella or Listeria, could still get the squits though.
back to reality...if this was such a problem, considering how long and how many people are exposed 24/7/52 don't you think there would be a plague of cases to look at?
we have been though all this before with mobile phones etc.
NO EVIDENCE.
and a lot of the stuff with phones is down to actual heat being generated by the phone ( or the person themselves) not any RF stuff ...
i bet if you held a switched off phone to the side of your head like you were talking to someone for 15 minutes, it'd be hot and sweaty where the phone was pressed against your ear / cheek ...
i bet if you held a switched off phone to the side of your head like you were talking to someone for 15 minutes, it'd be hot and sweaty where the phone was pressed against your ear / cheek ...
Einion Yrth said:
Bullett said:
I was reading about some double blind tests they did with people who claimed EMF sensitivity. I think the summary was that they couldn't reliably identify when they were being exposed or not.
To play Devil's advocate a moment; I can't reliably tell if I'm being exposed to Salmonella or Listeria, could still get the squits though.Presumably you would be able to tell the difference between being exposed to pathogenic levels of salmonella vs not being exposed to it?
Scuffers said:
back to reality...
This is from the tribunal in Toulouse. The woman has been trying this on for years and years. She finally found some country GP in the outback that is Ariege who swallowed the story.
The tribunal awarded her 800 euro a month for 2 years, from April 2013. ie not up to today, which sounds like the tribunal doesn't think she has it now.
Its not related to wifi but to all forms of RF radiation, mostly cellular towers.
Oh yes, shes also written a novel about some rampant greenie avengers who go round chopping down the aforementioned cellular towers.
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