Joyless feminism
Discussion
TTwiggy said:
Rude-boy said:
Not really though as by talking about accepting the term circle jerk he is quite clearly excluding the female posters.
This may shock, or even terrify you, but women masturbate too.Bean flicking on the other hand is to be positively encouraged.
I can't help thinking if her appearance was as irrelevant to her as she professes she wouldn't have put such an effort into the image in the first place. Whilst admittedly demure and professional in style lots of work went into it. Besides I can't help but find a certain irony in accusing men of attributing worth on the basis of looks. On facebook almost every female profile I see has 100 comments telling her she 'looks great hun' I can only see that as women throwing far more importance on looks than men as men just don't do the same thing.
Buzz word said:
I can't help thinking if her appearance was as irrelevant to her as she professes she wouldn't have put such an effort into the image in the first place. Whilst admittedly demure and professional in style lots of work went into it. Besides I can't help but find a certain irony in accusing men of attributing worth on the basis of looks. On facebook almost every female profile I see has 100 comments telling her she 'looks great hun' I can only see that as women throwing far more importance on looks than men as men just don't do the same thing.
And will have no hesitation in discussing fit men (it's only when someone who isn't physically attractive hits on you that they're a perv or creep)His mistake was mentioning that 'it isn't very politically correct to say but.....'
He's opened the floodgates there!
If he just said, stunning photograph, he could have fallen back on it and said, it's a good photo.
She's right though, he was flirting, but she's overacted imho. And her comment about 'half your age' , well that is seemingly as un pc as he is allegedly being!
He's opened the floodgates there!
If he just said, stunning photograph, he could have fallen back on it and said, it's a good photo.
She's right though, he was flirting, but she's overacted imho. And her comment about 'half your age' , well that is seemingly as un pc as he is allegedly being!
Justayellowbadge said:
He cannot seriously have thought she'd giggle coyly and blush in girlish excitement?
You might be surprised at what some ladies get up to in this area.For example, I know three who decided that another button needed to be undone this evening given the elderly males who were attending the party....... And then the fawning over their stories etc....
Nevertheless I can't imagine this is a wise career move on her part.
RobinBanks said:
I wouldn't employ her. I'd be constantly on edge, expecting an industrial tribunal for saying something nice or positive.
Well she is self employed. However she is instructed (unless public access) by solicitors. You know, like the fellow who sent a private message which she then proceeded to post over twitter it would appear......Jasandjules said:
Well she is self employed. However she is instructed (unless public access) by solicitors. You know, like the fellow who sent a private message which she then proceeded to post over twitter it would appear......
The idea of working with her doesn't appeal to me!"You did a good job today Miss Smallman, well done!"
"Right, I'm taking you to court. That was clearly an attempt to seduce me."
HewManHeMan said:
There can be sexism towards men, but it's not like we face it every day and our gender suffers because of it. We're literally in charge of absolutely everything. And it stems from the fact that subtle forms of oppression, like this, keep women (and everybody else) down.
White Male Privilege, fellas. I know I'm guilty of it, as it's likely baked into my thinking nowadays, but that doesn't mean we can't at least attempt to identify it - to ourselves - and work against it.
An interesting comment. However men DO face sexism everyday and our gender definitely suffers for it. The difference is it tends to be invisible as it is systemic rather than people's behaviour that is at fault. White Male Privilege, fellas. I know I'm guilty of it, as it's likely baked into my thinking nowadays, but that doesn't mean we can't at least attempt to identify it - to ourselves - and work against it.
For example "The British state has become ever more hostile towards men and boys, although it’s largely funded by men, through income tax receipts. Of all the income tax collected by the state, men collectively pay 72%, women 28%.1 In 2011/12 British men paid £68 billion more income tax than women, yet the state disadvantages men and boys in many areas, usually to advantage women and girls.
There are no areas in which the state disadvantages women and girls.
A state which is hostile towards half its citizens also affects women who are mothers of boys, or who are men’s partners, relatives, colleagues, friends or acquaintances. In the case of abortion, foetal alcohol syndrome, and fatherlessness, girls (including those yet unborn) are also assaulted by the actions and inactions of the state. The result is both inevitable and predictable – an ever more dysfunctional society, with increasing alienation of the sexes.
In this manifesto we provide details of the state’s disadvantaging of men and boys in 20 areas, and we make proposals in each of them. The areas are presented in a broadly chronological order:
Abortion
Foetal alcohol syndrome
Genital mutilation
Fatherlessness, restoring strong families Education
Employment
Access to children after family breakdowns Domestic violence
Sexual abuse
Armed Forces veterans’ mental health issues
Homelessness
Suicide
Criminal justice system
Paternity fraud
Anonymity for suspected sexual offenders Divorce
Health
Political representation
State interference in company director appointments
Expectation of retirement years"
And so it goes on (taken from Justive4 Men manifesto).
There are, IIRC, three times more men who commit suicide, but the system doesn't seem to care.
Far more males are victims of violent crime than females, but there are no special programs to tackle this.
For every £1 spent on males by the NHS £8 is spent on females.
Women make the decisions that matter in the majority of UK households ( and control the finances) for example see https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa... although there are plenty other research papers that support this.
The education system favours young girls, a point that has been recognised for over 20 years it nothing is done to bring in balance.
Men are basically disposable in our society - a senior army officer gave his (sexist) reason as to why women should not fight on the frontline is that the public might object to seeing their bodies come home in body bags, presumably it is ok for us to see young men in body bags.
Women in their 20s make more than similar aged men, the difference happens at 30 when women stop working to have babies, something we men can't do.
The list goes on. So to the extent that your claim is true, if it is, men are using that power to the advantage of women.
Feminism is one of the most successful ideologies ever and takes advantage of men's apathy and unwillingness to put their heads above the parapet to gain their own aims. A question you never hear them ask is "what's good about being a female in the UK today?"
For example feminism claims not to be about women and advantage but about equality. I look forward to the day they campaign for equality between the sexes in all of the areas above.
Edited by steveatesh on Wednesday 9th September 19:20
steveatesh said:
An interesting comment. However men DO face sexism everyday and our gender definitely suffers for it. The difference is it tends to be invisible as it is systemic rather than people's behaviour that is at fault.
For example "The British state has become ever more hostile towards men and boys, although it’s largely funded by men, through income tax receipts. Of all the income tax collected by the state, men collectively pay 72%, women 28%.1 In 2011/12 British men paid £68 billion more income tax than women, yet the state disadvantages men and boys in many areas, usually to advantage women and girls.
There are no areas in which the state disadvantages women and girls.
A state which is hostile towards half its citizens also affects women who are mothers of boys, or who are men’s partners, relatives, colleagues, friends or acquaintances. In the case of abortion, foetal alcohol syndrome, and fatherlessness, girls (including those yet unborn) are also assaulted by the actions and inactions of the state. The result is both inevitable and predictable – an ever more dysfunctional society, with increasing alienation of the sexes.
In this manifesto we provide details of the state’s disadvantaging of men and boys in 20 areas, and we make proposals in each of them. The areas are presented in a broadly chronological order:
Abortion
Foetal alcohol syndrome
Genital mutilation
Fatherlessness, restoring strong families Education
Employment
Access to children after family breakdowns Domestic violence
Sexual abuse
Armed Forces veterans’ mental health issues
Homelessness
Suicide
Criminal justice system
Paternity fraud
Anonymity for suspected sexual offenders Divorce
Health
Political representation
State interference in company director appointments
Expectation of retirement years"
And so it goes on (taken from Justive4 Men manifesto).
There are, IIRC, three times more men who commit suicide, but the system doesn't seem to care.
Far more males are victims of violent crime than females, but there are no special programs to tackle this.
For every £1 spent on males by the NHS £8 is spent on females.
Women make the decisions that matter in the majority of UK households ( and control the finances) for example see https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa... although there are plenty other research papers that support this.
The education system favours young girls, a point that has been recognised for over 20 years it nothing is done to bring in balance.
Men are basically disposable in our society - a senior army officer gave his (sexist) reason as to why women should not fight on the frontline is that the public might object to seeing their bodies come home in body bags, presumably it is ok for us to see young men in body bags.
Women in their 20s make more than similar aged men, the difference happens at 30 when women stop working to have babies, something we men can't do.
The list goes on. So to the extent that your claim is true, if it is, men are using that power to the advantage of women.
Feminism is one of the most successful ideologies ever and takes advantage of men's apathy and unwillingness to put their heads above the parapet to gain their own aims. A question you never hear them ask is "what's good about being a female in the UK today?"
For example feminism claims not to be about women and advantage but about equality. I look forward to the day they campaign for equality between the sexes in all of the areas above.
This. Note also the daily sexism of TV adverts. Normally involving clever/together mum/woman and some idiotic bumbling idiot of a bloke. These adverts appeal to women, they think it is funny. That is why they exist. A role reversal in these adverts would see apoplectic eruptions from femi-nazis all over.For example "The British state has become ever more hostile towards men and boys, although it’s largely funded by men, through income tax receipts. Of all the income tax collected by the state, men collectively pay 72%, women 28%.1 In 2011/12 British men paid £68 billion more income tax than women, yet the state disadvantages men and boys in many areas, usually to advantage women and girls.
There are no areas in which the state disadvantages women and girls.
A state which is hostile towards half its citizens also affects women who are mothers of boys, or who are men’s partners, relatives, colleagues, friends or acquaintances. In the case of abortion, foetal alcohol syndrome, and fatherlessness, girls (including those yet unborn) are also assaulted by the actions and inactions of the state. The result is both inevitable and predictable – an ever more dysfunctional society, with increasing alienation of the sexes.
In this manifesto we provide details of the state’s disadvantaging of men and boys in 20 areas, and we make proposals in each of them. The areas are presented in a broadly chronological order:
Abortion
Foetal alcohol syndrome
Genital mutilation
Fatherlessness, restoring strong families Education
Employment
Access to children after family breakdowns Domestic violence
Sexual abuse
Armed Forces veterans’ mental health issues
Homelessness
Suicide
Criminal justice system
Paternity fraud
Anonymity for suspected sexual offenders Divorce
Health
Political representation
State interference in company director appointments
Expectation of retirement years"
And so it goes on (taken from Justive4 Men manifesto).
There are, IIRC, three times more men who commit suicide, but the system doesn't seem to care.
Far more males are victims of violent crime than females, but there are no special programs to tackle this.
For every £1 spent on males by the NHS £8 is spent on females.
Women make the decisions that matter in the majority of UK households ( and control the finances) for example see https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa... although there are plenty other research papers that support this.
The education system favours young girls, a point that has been recognised for over 20 years it nothing is done to bring in balance.
Men are basically disposable in our society - a senior army officer gave his (sexist) reason as to why women should not fight on the frontline is that the public might object to seeing their bodies come home in body bags, presumably it is ok for us to see young men in body bags.
Women in their 20s make more than similar aged men, the difference happens at 30 when women stop working to have babies, something we men can't do.
The list goes on. So to the extent that your claim is true, if it is, men are using that power to the advantage of women.
Feminism is one of the most successful ideologies ever and takes advantage of men's apathy and unwillingness to put their heads above the parapet to gain their own aims. A question you never hear them ask is "what's good about being a female in the UK today?"
For example feminism claims not to be about women and advantage but about equality. I look forward to the day they campaign for equality between the sexes in all of the areas above.
Edited by steveatesh on Wednesday 9th September 19:20
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