Half a million VWs recalled, sneaky emissions software.
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The only reason VAG implemented the cutting of power was to get you back to a dealer so a huge bill could but run up. It's nothing to do with protecting the engine or emissions, what a load of old tosh. Just plugging their all seeing computer in creates a nice little earner, that's before they've even 'fixed' the fault.
VAG need to keep the money rolling in after purchase, maximise profit and prevent you working on your own car, hence why it' s nigh on impossible to even change a light bulb on the damn things, although they don't have a monopoly on that, granted.
VAG need to keep the money rolling in after purchase, maximise profit and prevent you working on your own car, hence why it' s nigh on impossible to even change a light bulb on the damn things, although they don't have a monopoly on that, granted.
“Former Volkswagen executive sentenced to seven years in prison over 'Dieselgate' emissions scam
'I accept the responsibility for the wrong I committed,' says Oliver Schmidt ”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/v...
'I accept the responsibility for the wrong I committed,' says Oliver Schmidt ”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/v...
BlackLabel said:
“Former Volkswagen executive sentenced to seven years in prison over 'Dieselgate' emissions scam
'I accept the responsibility for the wrong I committed,' says Oliver Schmidt ”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/v...
And that’s a plea deal plus a 400k fine. ouch. 'I accept the responsibility for the wrong I committed,' says Oliver Schmidt ”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/v...
The Spruce goose said:
Seems very harsh and is a token fall guy.
"said he had only become involved in the scam in 2015, when it had already been running for almost a decade. The scheme was first hatched in 2006."
Will he be the last prosecution though?"said he had only become involved in the scam in 2015, when it had already been running for almost a decade. The scheme was first hatched in 2006."
Please deal for info on the rest? I can imagine some VW execs from the last 10yrs will be having a very twitchy Christmas.
Murph7355 said:
The Spruce goose said:
Seems very harsh and is a token fall guy.
"said he had only become involved in the scam in 2015, when it had already been running for almost a decade. The scheme was first hatched in 2006."
Will he be the last prosecution though?"said he had only become involved in the scam in 2015, when it had already been running for almost a decade. The scheme was first hatched in 2006."
Please deal for info on the rest? I can imagine some VW execs from the last 10yrs will be having a very twitchy Christmas.
FiF said:
Wasn't he arrested when he went to Florida on holiday? The rest back in Germany aren't going to be visiting Disneyworld any time soon.
What a costly error.
“When Volkswagen executive Oliver Schmidt arrived in Florida for Christmas vacation on Dec. 24, he probably never imagined the trip would be extended to include jail time.
But the 48-year old former head of VW's U.S. environment and engineering office isn't going home anytime soon.
Thursday a federal judge in Detroit rejected his request to be released on bond. Schmidt has been in custody for 70 days, since his Jan. 7 arrest at Miami International Airport as he prepared to return to Germany at the end of his vacation.”
http://money.cnn.com/2017/03/17/news/companies/vol...
BlackLabel said:
FiF said:
Wasn't he arrested when he went to Florida on holiday? The rest back in Germany aren't going to be visiting Disneyworld any time soon.
What a costly error.
“When Volkswagen executive Oliver Schmidt arrived in Florida for Christmas vacation on Dec. 24, he probably never imagined the trip would be extended to include jail time.
But the 48-year old former head of VW's U.S. environment and engineering office isn't going home anytime soon.
Thursday a federal judge in Detroit rejected his request to be released on bond. Schmidt has been in custody for 70 days, since his Jan. 7 arrest at Miami International Airport as he prepared to return to Germany at the end of his vacation.”
http://money.cnn.com/2017/03/17/news/companies/vol...
Burwood said:
Jeez, what a Christmas surprise. Beggars belief that he didn’t stop to think that decision through. I feel sorry for him actually.
I read somewhere that he checked before travelling and was assured he'd be OK. If I thought I needed to check, then I simply wouldn't have travelled.Sheepshanks said:
Burwood said:
Jeez, what a Christmas surprise. Beggars belief that he didn’t stop to think that decision through. I feel sorry for him actually.
I read somewhere that he checked before travelling and was assured he'd be OK. If I thought I needed to check, then I simply wouldn't have travelled.After a few weeks of this he decided he'd rather be in jail, so booked the tickets.
Sheepshanks said:
I read somewhere that he checked before travelling and was assured he'd be OK. If I thought I needed to check, then I simply wouldn't have travelled.
"But Schmidt decided to risk arrest by coming to the United States, which he and his wife have done for Christmas break every year since 2008. His attorney had contacted federal prosecutors to ask "if he had anything to worry about" by taking the trip to Florida, according to Singer. He was told authorities would not be "offering safe passage" to Schmidt. He decided to come anyway.!!Edited by jbswagger on Thursday 7th December 19:38
jbswagger said:
Sheepshanks said:
I read somewhere that he checked before travelling and was assured he'd be OK. If I thought I needed to check, then I simply wouldn't have travelled.
"But Schmidt decided to risk arrest by coming to the United States, which he and his wife have done for Christmas break every year since 2008. His attorney had contacted federal prosecutors to ask "if he had anything to worry about" by taking the trip to Florida, according to Singer. He was told authorities would not be "offering safe passage" to Schmidt. He decided to come anyway.!!Edited by jbswagger on Thursday 7th December 19:38
Stupid?
Certainly not ignorant.
RobDickinson said:
"During a search last week there were signs that the accused may tamper with evidence. To influence other suspects or witnesses, or people who could provide information to the investigating authorities," he added.Sueddeutsche Zeitung, citing sources close to the investigation, said prosecutors had tapped Stadler's phone just before searching his premises last week.
idiot
It will be interesting to see if the Germans really whack them hard. The thing that grates is VWs continued lying and defiance. I’d like to see an unlimited fine. Tell the board, come clean fully or we could fine you out of existence. This is proof that some companies are just too large and powerful
Edited by Burwood on Tuesday 19th June 07:40
German businesses are very protected; they are not prey to the same takeover threats as firm sin the UK or USA and I think that whilst this can be a positive thing - for employee job security, long term planning and investment - it can also be a bad things in terms of creating an environment of untouchability, and yes, possibly arrogance on occasion. Germany is also a very introverted market, resistant to imports and minded toward export, even with its closest neighbours, as the target 2 imbalances within the Euro illustrate.
Burwood said:
It will be interesting to see if the Germans really whack them hard. The thing that grates is VWs continued lying and defiance. I’d like to see an unlimited fine. Tell the board, come clean fully or we could fine you out of existence. This is proof that some companies are just too large and powerful
So you would effectively:Edited by Burwood on Tuesday 19th June 07:40
1) make hundreds of thousands of people unemployed
2) shut down the world wide best selling car group (causing massive undersupply of quality vehicles etc)
3) cause all the existing millions of cars to effectively go on without factory support
I honestly don't see the big deal now
They have paid their fines
They have completed their mandated fixes, call backs etc
They are NOT the only company to do this, nor are they the first, nor are they the last.
xjay1337 said:
So you would effectively:
1) make hundreds of thousands of people unemployed
2) shut down the world wide best selling car group (causing massive undersupply of quality vehicles etc)
3) cause all the existing millions of cars to effectively go on without factory support
I honestly don't see the big deal now
They have paid their fines
They have completed their mandated fixes, call backs etc
They are NOT the only company to do this, nor are they the first, nor are they the last.
just out of interest, how much have they paid out in fines from this?1) make hundreds of thousands of people unemployed
2) shut down the world wide best selling car group (causing massive undersupply of quality vehicles etc)
3) cause all the existing millions of cars to effectively go on without factory support
I honestly don't see the big deal now
They have paid their fines
They have completed their mandated fixes, call backs etc
They are NOT the only company to do this, nor are they the first, nor are they the last.
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