Half a million VWs recalled, sneaky emissions software.

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IainT said:

MarshPhantom said:

the number of diesel vehicles has increased exponentially since the early 90s.

digging around for information on this and it's a little inconclusive but what's clear is that this has not happened. Share of the market has increased and this varied widely by country but the number of diesels hasn't increased exponentially. The growth is, with a few blips and slow downs, pretty linear. Diesel is ~60% of car sales.

No way of finding figures but I'd say my post is correct ref the UK, diesels were fairly uncommon back in the day, mostly because they were still a bit crap.

For example, BMW didn't even sell diesels in the UK in the 80s, they did in Europe. Now the vast majority of BMs are diesels. Diesel just wasn't on the radar for most people back then.

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ash73 said:

turbobloke said:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/wellbeing/health-advice...

Was that written by a climate change skeptic, because the rhetoric sounds familiar. No scientific facts or papers, just someone who should know better sowing the seeds of doubt, "it's just a few parts per billion it can't do any harm".

The Telegraph - fearless defender of big business, their advertisers and the status quo.

My Mum doesn't believe smoking is bad for you that doesn't mean she's right.

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Cobnapint said:

Don't worry folks

http://news.sky.com/story/1562736/vw-cheat-device-...

Hardly surprising, currently on C4 News that the Govt did their own tests into diesel emissions in 2013, found that they were way higher than they should be and have suppressed the results ever since.

Curious.

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KTF said:

I hate the term 'defeat device'. It makes it sound like there is a thing that they have attached to the cars and the fix will be to 'remove' it...

Yes, if they could have got the emissions down they would have.

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Ayahuasca said:

As a 'cheat' VW owner, why would you take your car in for the recall?

It will come out with worse performance!

Anyone buying your car may want to know if it's been recalled and will use as a bargaining tool if not?

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V8A*ndy said:

MarshPhantom said:

Ayahuasca said:

As a 'cheat' VW owner, why would you take your car in for the recall?

It will come out with worse performance!

Anyone buying your car may want to know if it's been recalled and will use as a bargaining tool if not?

and as already posted.

Engine blows up "Sorry Sir you didn't have the recall"

It would be fairly simple for the DVLA to request data on cars that haven't been "upgraded" too, depends how far they want to take it.

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chris watton said:

Jimboka said:

Scuffers said:

Jimboka said:

The are some deluded people on here...
If any of your biased little opinions came true.. I expect VW would compensate for any losses. So the owners would be saving that 6p a mile. A few hundred in rfl. Cash in pocket. and believe it or not, lots actually prefer the way diesels drive!

DVLA have already said they are not going to re-classify current cars CO2 figures - so no change in RFL for existing cars.

That's what I meant sorry, a few hundred still saved over compared to the dirty petrols..

Personally, I have no problem whatsoever with other people's choice of car, be it diesel or petrol, why would I!

What I do take issue with is you - you think that because you get good miles per gallon, that is the be all and end all, and you think that people like me, who do not own, or ever wish to own a diesel are somehow 'jealous' of your MPG, as if I (and many others) couldn't walk into any dealer and buy one if I so wished!

You're just crazy!

My O/H's MR2 gets 40mpg, pretty sure that's not diesel. Certainly doesn't sound or smell like one, and the birds don't fall from the trees due to the noxious fumes as she drives by.

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FiF said:

As always with the unpleasant PH gang mentality when someone refuses to kowtow to the alleged truism then abuse follows.

Which is a political anti EU diesel move by the Americans at its roots.

There are already more than 200 Low Emission Zones across Europe already where use of diesel vehicles is restricted.

I believe the Yanks are doing what we should have done a long time ago.