Road closed as people refuse to give way
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If no one else has said it this is another confusion of priority with give way.
Its like on roundabouts where priority is to the right but give way to anyone else on the roundabout
Apparantly the guy was already in the tunnel so she has to give way
She has priority about entering if both arrive at the entrance the same time
Common sense out of the window
Its like on roundabouts where priority is to the right but give way to anyone else on the roundabout
Apparantly the guy was already in the tunnel so she has to give way
She has priority about entering if both arrive at the entrance the same time
Common sense out of the window
RichB said:
s3fella said:
For all we know this poor old sold fought in the war...
That would make at least 95 and even more reason for him not to be driving. But he would only need to be about 86
And as for all of those saying words to the effect of "doddery old git - take his licence away" Just think.
One day you will be old, probably not as strong and powerfully built as you are now and maybe even a little frail. I hope you have someone to look after you and ferry you around when you will of course voluntarily surrender your own licence.
saaby93 said:
If no one else has said it this is another confusion of priority with give way.
Its like on roundabouts where priority is to the right but give way to anyone else on the roundabout
Apparantly the guy was already in the tunnel so she has to give way
She has priority about entering if both arrive at the entrance the same time
Common sense out of the window
The fact is - and there's only 2 or 3 people on this thread that actually know the particular bridge - one can see through perfectly if one bothers to look. Basically, from the north (where the old boy came from) you slow to walking speed as you approach the bridge and look through. You can clearly see if there is any traffic approaching from around Forlease Rd. If it's clear go through, if there's a car coming round the bend of Forlease Rd you stop, that's what the give way line is there for. It really is simple, buses and stuff use it all the time. The old boy either didn't look, couldn't see, didn't care or was in a world all of his own. He made a mistake - the lady in the Merc would have been clearly visible approaching the bridge from the other side and he should have seen here... however she behaved badly too! But... please, if you don't know the junction, don't try to dress it up as if the old boy was right. He wasn't. Its like on roundabouts where priority is to the right but give way to anyone else on the roundabout
Apparantly the guy was already in the tunnel so she has to give way
She has priority about entering if both arrive at the entrance the same time
Common sense out of the window
alfie2244 said:
dandarez said:
alfie2244 said:
otolith said:
alfie2244 said:
FWIW I agree entirely... looks to me like he was already 2/3rds of the way through (probably going slowly also) so she should have stopped.
That's assuming she didn't just anchor up when he failed to stop at the give way, after which he drove up to her.I'm guessing he had absolutely no idea what the issue was.
She needs a better attitude, and he needs a bus pass.
Pays to know your marques.ps it had a black stripe running over the bomnnet / roof / and a black cat on tyhe boot.
I was tempted by this Kawazaki bike engined one, but £6k? Love that colour!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1964-HILLMAN-IMP-/221890...
Another here at £8k - look at that front neg camber! I do miss the high revving motor - an Imp engine in right tune (mine was Chesman 998) is a delight.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HILLMAN-IMP-SUPER-Fully-...
well, that's got the thread away from the topic!!
RichB said:
The fact is - and there's only 2 or 3 people on this thread that actually know the particular bridge - one can see through perfectly if one bothers to look. Basically, from the north (where the old boy came from) you slow to walking speed as you approach the bridge and look through. You can clearly see if there is any traffic approaching from around Forlease Rd. If it's clear go through, if there's a car coming round the bend of Forlease Rd you stop, that's what the give way line is there for. It really is simple, buses and stuff use it all the time. The old boy either didn't look, couldn't see, didn't care or was in a world all of his own. He made a mistake - the lady in the Merc would have been clearly visible approaching the bridge from the other side and he should have seen here... however she behaved badly too! But... please, if you don't know the junction, don't try to dress it up as if the old boy was right. He wasn't.
Yeah but what you're ignoring is that she's a woman and he's a man so she's a snake with tits and an arrogant b
h and a heartless we and a vile slut who has never done anything good in her entire life while he's a lovely old boy who fought in three world wars and deserves our respect because he's a faultless human being who has never even dreamed a bad thought. I think in light of this information you'll agree that in fact everything in the world is her fault.rohrl said:
Yeah but what you're ignoring is that she's a woman and he's a man so she's a snake with tits and an arrogant bh and a heartless we and a vile slut who has never done anything good in her entire life while he's a lovely old boy who fought in three world wars and deserves our respect because he's a faultless human being who has never even dreamed a bad thought. I think in light of this information you'll agree that in fact everything in the world is her fault.
Nope, but she was the one who could rectify the situation in about 10 seconds be chose instead to make the whole thing a massive issue for everyone in the area.h and a heartless we and a vile slut who has never done anything good in her entire life while he's a lovely old boy who fought in three world wars and deserves our respect because he's a faultless human being who has never even dreamed a bad thought. I think in light of this information you'll agree that in fact everything in the world is her fault.boyse7en said:
Nope, but she was the one who could rectify the situation in about 10 seconds be chose instead to make the whole thing a massive issue for everyone in the area.
But the point is that he could have rectified the situation too.Unless he's incapable of controlling his car, in which case he shouldn't be on the road at all.
rohrl said:
But the point is that he could have rectified the situation too.
Unless he's incapable of controlling his car, in which case he shouldn't be on the road at all.
The video clearly shows that he appeared dazed, confused and was struggling with control of the vehicle.Unless he's incapable of controlling his car, in which case he shouldn't be on the road at all.
Even if she had dug her heels in up to that point on the assumption he was being a pig headed old fart - surely she would have realised that he was not reversing because he was actually incapable (the people leaning in through his window and steering the car for him was a BIG clue). At that point she could have simply and quickly remedied the situation.
That she continued to hold her ground even once it became clear he wasn't capable is pretty cold hearted. It is also in contravention with the highway code.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
rohrl said:
boyse7en said:
Nope, but she was the one who could rectify the situation in about 10 seconds be chose instead to make the whole thing a massive issue for everyone in the area.
But the point is that he could have rectified the situation too.Unless he's incapable of controlling his car, in which case he shouldn't be on the road at all.
She could have but refused so she could have not inconvenienced everyone had she chosen.
The fact that the old chap seems to be incapable and should not be driving is another debate to be had.
My guess is that it's like the single lane bit near where I work and that she's sick of people who are blind, ignorant or selfish totally ignoring the priority signs.
She's stubborn and acting the arse but she has my sympathy. If the old bloke can't follow signs and can't reverse a car 10 feet then he should be off the road before he causes something more serious.
She's stubborn and acting the arse but she has my sympathy. If the old bloke can't follow signs and can't reverse a car 10 feet then he should be off the road before he causes something more serious.
RichB said:
saaby93 said:
If no one else has said it this is another confusion of priority with give way.
Its like on roundabouts where priority is to the right but give way to anyone else on the roundabout
Apparantly the guy was already in the tunnel so she has to give way
She has priority about entering if both arrive at the entrance the same time
Common sense out of the window
The fact is - and there's only 2 or 3 people on this thread that actually know the particular bridge - one can see through perfectly if one bothers to look. Basically, from the north (where the old boy came from) you slow to walking speed as you approach the bridge and look through. You can clearly see if there is any traffic approaching from around Forlease Rd. If it's clear go through, if there's a car coming round the bend of Forlease Rd you stop, that's what the give way line is there for. It really is simple, buses and stuff use it all the time. The old boy either didn't look, couldn't see, didn't care or was in a world all of his own. He made a mistake - the lady in the Merc would have been clearly visible approaching the bridge from the other side and he should have seen here... however she behaved badly too! But... please, if you don't know the junction, don't try to dress it up as if the old boy was right. He wasn't. Its like on roundabouts where priority is to the right but give way to anyone else on the roundabout
Apparantly the guy was already in the tunnel so she has to give way
She has priority about entering if both arrive at the entrance the same time
Common sense out of the window
Yes the lady would have been visible once he's about to enter the tunnel, but by that time he's in, she isnt, so she has to give way
If they both arrive same time she has priority
Same thing happens in these chicane style things
You get one person half way through and soemone coming the other way claims they have priority. They do but its too late, the other persons already in
who arrived first him or her? Do they both have Mercs?
Moonhawk said:
rohrl said:
But the point is that he could have rectified the situation too.
Unless he's incapable of controlling his car, in which case he shouldn't be on the road at all.
The video clearly shows that he appeared dazed, confused and was struggling with control of the vehicle.Unless he's incapable of controlling his car, in which case he shouldn't be on the road at all.
Even if she had dug her heels in up to that point on the assumption he was being a pig headed old fart - surely she would have realised that he was not reversing because he was actually incapable (the people leaning in through his window and steering the car for him was a BIG clue). At that point she could have simply and quickly remedied the situation.
That she continued to hold her ground even once it became clear he wasn't capable is pretty cold hearted. It is also in contravention with the highway code.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
h that never backs down. I very much suspect it is the latter more than the former. Would be interested to see how the old boy fared on a trip to Specsavers.
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