Another US Campus mass shooting.

[mackie1]

I wonder if lack of faith and trust in the police is part of the problem too? Rightly or wrongly.

[scherzkeks]

jjlynn27 said:

US gun crime in 2015 - Figures up to 1 October
294 - Mass shootings
45 - shootings at schools
9,956 - people killed in gun incidents
20,000 - people injured in gun incidents

Absolutely nothing to do with availability of guns. Nothing whatsoever.

Well, its part of it. But the greater contributor is the culture.

[Oakey]

OpulentBob said:

I'm OK with that. Oh wait, it's already illegal here. You won't kill 50 people with a swiss army knife (about the most dangerous legal-to-carry knife you can get here) unless you're Rambo.

The stories on their homepage are... interesting.

Not to mention, comparing a terrorist attack to the actions of one person is completely the same. Imagine what these 9 people would have accomplished with firearms instead of knives

[Fishtigua]

Matt Harper said:

Psychological evaluation is also a potential mitigating strategy - but also fraught with difficulty. I'm not clinically qualified to know if this is even possible, but I would support removal of firearms from everyone, who has ever been diagnosed with a psychological disorder, temporary, transient or otherwise.

Any other suggestions?

California is trying to do just that with their laws. If family members or health professionals are worried, they can call in the Police to remove weapons.

http://smartgunlaws.org/californias-new-gun-violen...

[jjlynn27]

OpulentBob said:

I'm OK with that. Oh wait, it's already illegal here. You won't kill 50 people with a swiss army knife (about the most dangerous legal-to-carry knife you can get here) unless you're Rambo.

The stories on their homepage are... interesting.

You are naive. You are being controlled by an evil 89 year old grandma, without you even realising. All stories on that website are true.

As for 5oh, there is a link to some 'survival' blog on his profile. I have to admit, curiosity got me to click on link. Completely normal website says;

survivalblog.com said:

We post our IPv4 address (also referred to as a “dotted quad” or IP address) as a sort of insurance policy. Recent events have proven that a government agency or a malicious hacker can fairly easily seize or hijack a domain name. This has already happened to at least 75 U.S. web sites without due process of law. Their DNS records were changed, essentially erasing them from the “phone books of the Internet.”
Also see this article: U.S. Government Shuts Down 84,000 Web sites, ‘By Mistake’
To insure against this, we are distributing our IPv4 address. This can be pasted or typed into a web browser window in place of “www.SurvivalBlog.com”

What you need to do:
Take a pen and write down our dotted quad address (both the primary and the backup), and please carry that in your wallet. Also, please copy it to your browser’s “Favorites” or “Bookmarks” list.[/b]

Love it.

Edited by jjlynn27 on Monday 5th October 10:06

[anonymous-user]

Jesus.

That is EXACTLY the sort of person that shouldn't be allowed anywhere near guns. And he says he's in the military? fking hell. He's going to be one of those types that goes mental "on base" and takes out 15 other soldiers with a grenade for looking at him funny, or for drinking "TEA, NOT COFFEE, YOU ANT-EYE AMERICAN, FLAG BURNIN', LIMEY-LOVIN' TRAITERISH MOTHERfkERS!"

ETA:
Jesus. That link has got a prayer page. I don't think I have seen a more paranoid thing in my life. There's a common theme running through the biographies of the staff. Homeschooling... The poor kids, being taught by the terminally fking thick. I'm going to read that on my drive home and giggle my bks off.


OMG read the retreat owner profiles fking hell someone please cancel my internet, I'm fking dying here "I believe any choice in retreat location should be preceeded by prayer" jesus fking christ I can't breath for laughing

Edited by OpulentBob on Monday 5th October 10:51

[5ohmustang]

jjlynn27 said:

Love it.

Edited by jjlynn27 on Monday 5th October 10:06

Oh 5oh has interests in survival, prepping, being self sufficient, homesteading and off the grid living. What he does'nt follow the rest of the liberal sheep and be part of the mainstream?

5oh must be a nutjob and a time bomb waiting to happen, he must be a mental risk and therefore lets take his weapons.

Lol tossers.

[AW111]

5ohmustang said:

Oh 5oh has interests in survival, prepping, being self sufficient, homesteading and off the grid living. What he does'nt follow the rest of the liberal sheep and be part of the mainstream?

5oh must be a nutjob and a time bomb waiting to happen, he must be a mental risk and therefore lets take his weapons.

Lol tossers.

You realize that US survivalist are pretty mainstream too, don't you? Definitely a large enough sub-group to have their own conferences, magazines, etc. You're not exactly a lone wolf.


ps I have several off-grid friends, and some of them are left-wing as fk.

[longblackcoat]

5ohmustang said:

jjlynn27 said:

Love it.

Edited by jjlynn27 on Monday 5th October 10:06

Oh 5oh has interests in survival, prepping, being self sufficient, homesteading and off the grid living. What he does'nt follow the rest of the liberal sheep and be part of the mainstream?

5oh must be a nutjob and a time bomb waiting to happen, he must be a mental risk and therefore lets take his weapons.

Lol tossers.

5oh certainly can't punctuate.

And if he's calling people 'tossers' but at the same time laughing out loud (because, after all, this an hilarious subject) he's certainly confused.

So yes, on balance I'd take his guns. Partly because he seems to have the mental acuity of a turnip, but mainly becauise it would be fun to see his silly face turn purple with anger when he realises he doesn't have his firearm to prop up his confidence.

[anonymous-user]

5ohmustang said:

jjlynn27 said:

Love it.

Edited by jjlynn27 on Monday 5th October 10:06

Oh 5oh has interests in survival, prepping, being self sufficient, homesteading and off the grid living. What he does'nt follow the rest of the liberal sheep and be part of the mainstream?

5oh must be a nutjob and a time bomb waiting to happen, he must be a mental risk and therefore lets take his weapons.

Lol tossers.

You're so non-conformist and 'off the grid' with your Ford! Stick it to the man.

[TankRizzo]

jjlynn27 said:

Love it.

Edited by jjlynn27 on Monday 5th October 10:06

aaahahahahaaahahahaha Great find

[TankRizzo]

5ohmustang said:

Oh 5oh has interests in survival, prepping, being self sufficient, homesteading and off the grid living. What he does'nt follow the rest of the liberal sheep and be part of the mainstream?

5oh must be a nutjob and a time bomb waiting to happen, he must be a mental risk and therefore lets take his weapons.

Lol tossers.

Alright Bear Grylls, shouldn't you be trying to stay off the grid? Or are you behind 7 proxies?

[TankRizzo]

Also if you are "James Wesley, Rawles" am I to conclude that the comma indicates you are a Freeman on the Land?

[5ohmustang]

Fishtigua said:

California is trying to do just that with their laws. If family members or health professionals are worried, they can call in the Police to remove weapons.

http://smartgunlaws.org/californias-new-gun-violen...

California an smart gun laws in the same sentence? The irony.

[AJL308]

creampuff said:

Who knows. It may have been a derivative of the (then, since watered down) English common law right to self defence.
There is some discussion here
https://www.law.cornell.edu/anncon/html/amdt2_user...

Whatever the original meaning was intended to be, it has been comprehensively interpreted by the Supreme Court as the right of an individual person, not in a militia, to bear arms.

Exactly, and I struggle to understand how it took them so long to arrive at that rather obvious conclusion. The idea was to arm the militia; a militia is an irregular force not formed or controlled by the state. By its very definition to be a militia man you need to provide your own weapon and equipment when you come to the militia.

The Second Amendment can not refer to anything other than an individual right to possess to weapons of the militia.

[5ohmustang]

TankRizzo said:

Also if you are "James Wesley, Rawles" am I to conclude that the comma indicates you are a Freeman on the Land?

No I am definately not him, I am a reader of his website.

[AJL308]

creampuff said:

I think more control, e.g. compulsory background checks, no off-book gun show sales, waiting periods would be a good thing. I don't see why any of these are incompatible with the current interpretation of the constitution. Illinois has quite restrictive gun laws (ironic since Chicago was earlier used as a showcase of how bad violent crime is, Chicago is one of the hardest places to get and use a gun in the US); Arizona doesn't. Obvs there is scope for varying levels of gun control, still within the current interpretation of the constitution.

There is already a compulsory national background check, via the FBI I think, for gun sales. Sales at gun shows aren't 'off-book' as if they are by a federally licensed dealer then the background check still applies. The only 'off-book' ones are by private individuals who take a stall there to sell their personal firearms. Private sales usually do not need to involve the national check. The exception is California where every firearms sale must by law be done in person at a Federally licensed dealer who has to do the background check on the buyer/seller.

[ATG]

Matt Harper said:

Absolutely no utility in personal or home defense of course. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that - but the whole point of a firearm as a defensive weapon (rather than a sporting tool) is that it be accessible and ready for use.

Yes, but the utility of a firearm for self defence is so close to zero that removing it from that sphere altogether makes no difference to people safety except by reducing the chance of accidents or the gun being stolen.

Self defence with a firearm in your own house is a fantasy. If you look at countries like South Africa where the chance of encountering armed crime is far far higher than in the States, people don't arm themselves to the teeth. They carry panic buttons. They fit electric and razor wire fences. This is the difference between practical experience of dealing with crime versus fantasy risk and fantasy self defence.

A case in point: a Zimbabwean relative has a small arsenal of weapons that were used appropriately for self protection during the civil war. They weren't left sitting around the house in the bedside table just in case. Someone would be out on guard, or driving in an organised convoy. 30 years later he got wind that his farm was about to be invaded. First thing he did was empty the strong room of all the ammunition, automatic pistols, AR15s and a large number of hunting rifles and drive them back to town to secure them before returning to the farm. No point escalating the coming confrontation, disastrous if the weapons fell into the wrong hands. If someone is coming over to try to kill you, then by all means try and kill them. If they are coming over to rob you, best not to up the ante to the point that they decide to try to kill you.

Edited by ATG on Monday 5th October 13:07

[Foppo]

50hmustang.I've lived in the UK for over fourty years and can't say the socialist rule here.On their second term a Conservative government has been voted in.They are in power for the next five years a right wing government.I suppose Conservatives in the UK are similair to your Democrats in the U.S.

The Republicans are off the scale in the States strange party.In your country half a million people have been killed from 2001 onwards by the gun.I can undersdtand that anybody has the right to defend,problaby not wanting to be a hyprocrite if I lived in the States depending where. I would be armed.

But to be able to buy semi machine guns or have a house full of weapons is beyond reason.It proves a insecure society which is a danger to itself.

[jjlynn27]

5ohmustang said:

jjlynn27 said:

Love it.

Edited by jjlynn27 on Monday 5th October 10:06

Oh 5oh has interests in survival, prepping, being self sufficient, homesteading and off the grid living. What he does'nt follow the rest of the liberal sheep and be part of the mainstream?

5oh must be a nutjob and a time bomb waiting to happen, he must be a mental risk and therefore lets take his weapons.

Lol tossers.

You are a nutjob. You shouldn't be allowed outside unsupervised. When I type 'great loss for UK' I wasn't being serious. Adverts on your survivalblog.com are telling; http://www.infidelbodyarmor.com/

Seriously now, do you carry survivalblog ip address in your wallet? Once the governments and NWO have their way, you'll need bigger wallet for their ipv6.