Theresa May..

[DJRC]

Who defends May???? Nobody ever defends May!!! Her and Gove are the Tory ginger stepchilds - need a lightning rod for the stty abuse? Give the job to May or Gove!

[anonymous-user]

St Theresa does little wrong. A hard working MP & genuinely nice person. Hopefully PM one day..

[CorbynForTheBin]

keith333 said:

...is quite fit??? ;-)

Mr Blunkett

[Vixpy1]

CorbynForTheBin said:

keith333 said:

...is quite fit??? ;-)

Mr Blunkett

The Dog said no

[Rude-boy]

Elroy Blue said:

You're kind of missing the point that it's not just the Police Force she's utterly screwed up. Or are you just ignoring that to suit your agenda.

I have no agenda other than to debate the topics of the day from my view point and understanding of them, which is something I try to keep fluid as new information comes to light.

I am aware however that there are some posters who are very reluctant to acknowledge that relationships are a two way street, and that for a relationship- to fail it is almost always as a result of the action, or inaction, of both parties.

[rohrl]

On that left/right authoritarian/libertarian graph which occasionally pops up here Theresa May would be right-authoritarian. She's far too much of an authoritarian for my liking.

Michael Deacon's Sketch in today's Telegraph amusingly contrasts May and Boris's conference speeches.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/conservat...

[JagLover]

May said:

“When immigration is too high,” she said, “When the pace of change is too fast, it’s impossible to build a cohesive society. It’s difficult for schools and hospitals and core infrastructure like housing and transport to cope. And we know that for people in low-paid jobs, wages are forced down even further while some people are forced out of work altogether.”

There is, she added, “no case, in the national interest, for immigration of the scale we have experienced over the last decade.”

Only among the most hysterical of the "liberal" commentariat would this statement be in any way remarkable or controversial.

[Mr_B]

She was quite right in what she said. But in 2015 we seem to have to add in some faux hysteria and write loads of crap asking if we aren't a racist country every time the subject comes up.

[AA999]

Eric Mc said:

When was the UK last cohesive?

Is that relevant ?

Would a sensible aim for the future be to want a cohesive society?


I think its a nice turn for the Tories to come out and state what they did..... but isn't the elephant in the room being the fact that we can't control immigration as long as we are part of the EU?
So isn't it all just hot air to grab headlines when the Tories will also be fighting for the UK to stay in the EU?

Edited by AA999 on Wednesday 7th October 13:51

[rubyfletch]

keith333 said:

...is quite fit??? ;-)

Whenever I hear the name it conjures up images of that lass who was the staple of those mags you "allegedly" found in hedges during my youth, then realise it's actually the Maidenhead MP who makes Gail Tilsley from Coronation Street look like a goddess.

Edited by rubyfletch on Wednesday 7th October 13:40

[anonymous-user]

JagLover said:

May said:

“When immigration is too high,” she said, “When the pace of change is too fast, it’s impossible to build a cohesive society. It’s difficult for schools and hospitals and core infrastructure like housing and transport to cope. And we know that for people in low-paid jobs, wages are forced down even further while some people are forced out of work altogether.”

There is, she added, “no case, in the national interest, for immigration of the scale we have experienced over the last decade.”

Only among the most hysterical of the "liberal" commentariat would this statement be in any way remarkable or controversial.

She's not exactly been given the unalloyed support of Cameron, Osborne and Johnson has she?

I think it could be an interesting year for both Labour and Tory with with quite a few subjects likely to cause some major internal bickering.

I doubt Corbyn can keep Labour together, what chance the Tories keeping it together as various parties jostle for the leadership?

[rohrl]

JagLover said:

May said:

“When immigration is too high,” she said, “When the pace of change is too fast, it’s impossible to build a cohesive society. It’s difficult for schools and hospitals and core infrastructure like housing and transport to cope. And we know that for people in low-paid jobs, wages are forced down even further while some people are forced out of work altogether.”

There is, she added, “no case, in the national interest, for immigration of the scale we have experienced over the last decade.”

Only among the most hysterical of the "liberal" commentariat would this statement be in any way remarkable or controversial.

I'm sure that the Institute of Directors would be interested to hear that they're among "the most hysterical of the "liberal" commentariat". I've always thought of them as being pretty solidly conservative in their outlook.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-121947...

I'm not entirely convinced that the Daily Telegraph's politics editor is a a frothing leftie either, yet he describes May's speech on immigration as "dangerous and factually wrong".

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration...

[Bedford Rascal]

Tell you what Elroy, if you were half as dogged at policing as you are at whinging about Conservative government etc we wouldn't need police officers anymore anyway as you'd have singlehandedly banged up every baddie from lands end to j o g.

[mattyn1]

Vixpy1 said:

CorbynForTheBin said:

keith333 said:

...is quite fit??? ;-)

Mr Blunkett

The Dog said no

She is a lot better looking in her movies than she is on the news!!

[JagLover]

rohrl said:

I'm sure that the Institute of Directors would be interested to hear that they're among "the most hysterical of the "liberal" commentariat". I've always thought of them as being pretty solidly conservative in their outlook.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-121947...

I'm not entirely convinced that the Daily Telegraph's politics editor is a a frothing leftie either, yet he describes May's speech on immigration as "dangerous and factually wrong".

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration...

Is it a surprise that the IOD is in favour of unrestricted cheap labour?. What is good for some businesses is not necessarily good for the rest of us.

As for the Telegraph their coverage of the Migrant crises in Europe confirmed what many had already suspected that they have repositioned themselves from being the most right-wing of the broadsheets to often being indistinguishable from the Guardian in terms of many of their articles and a number of their columnists. Its sister paper The Sunday Telegraph is considerably more right wing.

Let us look at what the Telegraph article says.

First of all yes mass migration may not cause unemployment when the economy is growing strongly but numerous studies have found it has depressed the wages of low skilled workers-score one to May

Secondly that immigration has boosted GDP. Well if we imported 100 million more workers I am sure we would have a higher GDP (to take this argument to its extreme). That says nothing about how the standard of living of the existing population would be affected, which depends primarily on GDP per head.

Now we turn to the deficit being smaller as a result. A recent study which seemed to be trying to present as positive a picture of immigration as possible still found that Non-EU migration had been a net fiscal cost. When you consider that these people would typically be younger than the UK average that is a very poor result indeed.

A glance at employment rates by ethnic background show that while white non-British have a higher employment rate than the natives (predominantly from US, Commonwealth and EU), every single other immigrant group had a lower rate, and often far lower, due to such factors as non-working married women.

I stand by my comment that in a rational country what May said was reasonable and non-controversial. The cheerleaders for unrestricted mass migration will try and stifle any reasonable debate on this issue however.

[andymadmak]

rohrl said:

I'm sure that the Institute of Directors would be interested to hear that they're among "the most hysterical of the "liberal" commentariat". I've always thought of them as being pretty solidly conservative in their outlook.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-121947...

You might just want to check on Simon Walkers background. If you did, you'd be less surprised by his outburst. What would be a surprise though is how he landed the IoD gig at all!

[Ian Geary]

Rovinghawk said:

Elroy Blue said:

A Home Secretary that avoids interviews like the plague.

She was in an interview on the radio today.

This tends to refute your statement.

Maybe Elroy means the type of interview carried out with 2 tapes recording behind a locked door...