Junior Doctor's contracts petition
Discussion
Rovinghawk said:
spaximus said:
There are many many things wrong and waste is biblical but that is outside this issue.
Possibly not- if funds are limited then surely reducing waste can be part of the solution.968 said:
...guess what, it comes down to money again...
Rovinghawk said:
But it's not nearly as emotive as attacking any reforms to the system.
So why not attack that first instead of the JD contract? Without the money you cannot get the service Hunt has promised, regardless of clinical need. It would take years to cut waste and if planned by then extra Doctors could be in training.Dixy said:
Are you suggesting that money is wasted on Junior Doctors or that they waste money
Nobody said that- what was said was that the NHS wastes huge amounts. Getting rid of that waste would afford many things people would like.Dixy said:
or do I have to start that thread for you as well.
Gee, would you sir? I'd like that. IroningMan said:
Rovinghawk said:
spaximus said:
It would take years to cut waste
Why?One man's waste is another man's vested interest/career path.
Guybrush said:
Yes. The NHS is a massively complex hierarchy and (typical of the public sector) the simplest of transactions involve way too many people / steps in the process and any simplification by removing these unnecessary links in the chain means that the break needs to be 'reconnected'. Simplifying the stupidly complex procedures will be complicated. It has to be done though.
I can't agree more.Rovinghawk said:
spaximus said:
It would take years to cut waste
Why?Now as for why there is so much waste in the NHS and why it takes so long to change. The very people who are tasked to make savings are the very ones who are most resistant.
My wife has taken over certain offices in CSU reorganisations. In one there are five more staff than the others, doing less volume of work. The person in charge there actually asked for more staff. She is changing this but the resistance is high to change. If you have a lot of staff in the NHS it is status.
Purchasing, each hospitals has people involved, they don't want a central contract where an order can be drawn from. They love the negotiations even when they are crap, The suppliers love it as they get more from one hospital for exactly the same products.
Some one summed it up well, one mans waste is another career path. With waste in the NHS it is like trying to change the course of a super tanker with two men in a rowing boat.
spaximus said:
turbobloke said:
spaximus said:
It would take years to cut waste
If so, and even then it may not be like that across the piece, make what progress can be made while prioritising fraud and error.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff