Sugar tax

[Benbay001]

A 16 year old im at college with literally hasnt eaten a savory dinner since we started there. Todays lunch was a can of coke, shortbread and jammy dodgers.
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[Hoofy]

boyse7en said:

chris watton said:

Is there now more sugar in more products than there was 30-40 years ago, or is it a case of not burning off what we consume, like most did 20-30-40 years ago?

Yes. the increasing popularity of "Fat-Free" and low-fat product has increased the amount of 'hidden' sugar in stuff.

Basically, they took the fat out and replaced it with sugar in a lot of things in an attempt to keep a semblance of flavour.

And now they're going to remove the sugar.

[Hoofy]

Foppo said:

I like Jamie's initiative and he is geuine.If adults want to eat a certain way be it plenty of sugar or fast food that is their choice.But please don't force your children to go the same way.They depend on adults to show them the way.Jamie has the right approach.I doubt if Cameron would ever listen,not in his interest.

He's genuinely trying to promote his new low calorie book.

[Hoofy]

Eric Mc said:

People moved about in the past because its what they did in their jobs. No many people don't - so they have to make extra time in the day to "move about". It's not always that easy for everybody for all sorts of reasons - some genuine, some spurious. Some people just aren't interested in physical activity. That was always the case - but their jobs gave them the physical exercise anyway.

We have to tackle the problems that exist now - not wish for a world that has gone.

Sure, so people should quit staring at their phones or watching TV and get training. I know plenty of so-called busy people who decided to make that change for the better. You can find them here: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en

[technodup]

roachcoach said:

Whatever happened to personal responsibility?

This. Charge fat fkers to use the NHS. Charge them for their diabetes pills and their operations. That way the problem folk pay and the rest of us aren't punished with them.

That would maybe make a few more folk think about that extra poke of crisps than another 10p on the price.

[jjlynn27]

Taking this slightly of topic, is the stuff in diet-coke that I consume copious amount of, really bad? Really bad, not chemtrails bad.

[eldar]

chris watton said:

Is there now more sugar in more products than there was 30-40 years ago, or is it a case of not burning off what we consume, like most did 20-30-40 years ago?

Apparently. Historically people had a low sugar diet, the industrial revolution required lots of people working their nadgers off, and needing a source of cheap energy - sugar was cheap thanks to slavery and was an excellent energy source when you were burning 8 to 10 thousand calories a day down a hole in the ground.

Sugar is still cheap and full of energy, but you only burn 1500 calories a day watching telly and eating sugar.

[thebraketester]

jjlynn27 said:

Taking this slightly of topic, is the stuff in diet-coke that I consume copious amount of, really bad? Really bad, not chemtrails bad.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame

Some info for you there. Personally I would rather boil my head than drink diet drinks. I just point blank wont drink them, but then again I also rarely drink FF coke.... but it has to be FF not diet or some other ste to make you think it tastes the same but doesnt.

[voyds9]

So already we

shouldn't eat butter (one of the fatty acid can never remember which)
then reduced salt
then calorific values on pack
colour coding food so we know what is good for us
reduced fat
reduced alcohol intake

the problem isn't our food intake, it's our lack of movement
http://www.iea.org.uk/in-the-media/press-release/i...

So I propose an Apple tax

[jjlynn27]

thebraketester said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame

Some info for you there. Personally I would rather boil my head than drink diet drinks. I just point blank wont drink them, but then again I also rarely drink FF coke.... but it has to be FF not diet or some other ste to make you think it tastes the same but doesnt.

Thanks for the link. I'll have a quick look. The reason for not drinking FF but 'lite' is not lack of sugar, I just like taste more.

[chris watton]

eldar said:

chris watton said:

Is there now more sugar in more products than there was 30-40 years ago, or is it a case of not burning off what we consume, like most did 20-30-40 years ago?

Apparently. Historically people had a low sugar diet, the industrial revolution required lots of people working their nadgers off, and needing a source of cheap energy - sugar was cheap thanks to slavery and was an excellent energy source when you were burning 8 to 10 thousand calories a day down a hole in the ground.

Sugar is still cheap and full of energy, but you only burn 1500 calories a day watching telly and eating sugar.

Yep, too many are just consuming too much for their relatively sedentary lifestyle. Almost anything is OK in moderation, but I have learnt that you don't really need to consume much as I thought, even to build muscle and get much stronger. Just 6 hours training per week and a sensible diet is all it takes, making every calorie count (so st like coke, as much sugars as possible etc. are off the list..)

[Hoofy]

voyds9 said:

So I propose an Apple tax

Brilliant.

[Hoofy]

thebraketester said:

jjlynn27 said:

Taking this slightly of topic, is the stuff in diet-coke that I consume copious amount of, really bad? Really bad, not chemtrails bad.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame

Some info for you there. Personally I would rather boil my head than drink diet drinks. I just point blank wont drink them, but then again I also rarely drink FF coke.... but it has to be FF not diet or some other ste to make you think it tastes the same but doesnt.

In moderation, it's fine. There are a lot articles online about diet drinks doing stuff like causing cancer but there's a lot of stuff that suggests it's nonsense.

The only thing diet coke makes me do is want to drink more diet coke and then want to visit the gents a lot.

[BoRED S2upid]

voyds9 said:

So already we

shouldn't eat butter (one of the fatty acid can never remember which)
then reduced salt
then calorific values on pack
colour coding food so we know what is good for us
reduced fat
reduced alcohol intake

the problem isn't our food intake, it's our lack of movement
http://www.iea.org.uk/in-the-media/press-release/i...

So I propose an Apple tax

No we can eat fat ie butter this week now it's sugar we can't eat keep up at the back

[Hoofy]

BoRED S2upid said:

voyds9 said:

So already we

shouldn't eat butter (one of the fatty acid can never remember which)
then reduced salt
then calorific values on pack
colour coding food so we know what is good for us
reduced fat
reduced alcohol intake

the problem isn't our food intake, it's our lack of movement
http://www.iea.org.uk/in-the-media/press-release/i...

So I propose an Apple tax

No we can eat fat ie butter this week now it's sugar we can't eat keep up at the back

TBH we've already moved on from anti-sugar to anti-anti-sugar hence my current stance.

[mybrainhurts]

Dear Jamie Oliver...

There are some cliffs in Dover.

Please go and jump off them.

Ta, very much...

[Type R Tom]

I'm not a fan of taxing everything but I do think something needs to be done about those huge monster energy drinks, the amount of kids you see drinking them is unreal. Sometimes wonder if a can of lager wouldn't be better for them!

[jesusbuiltmycar]

How would a sugar tax with sports nutrition such as energy gels used by endurance athletes?

[jjlynn27]

Hoofy said:

In moderation, it's fine. There are a lot articles online about diet drinks doing stuff like causing cancer but there's a lot of stuff that suggests it's nonsense.

The only thing diet coke makes me do is want to drink more diet coke and then want to visit the gents a lot.

Moderation = 2 cans a day. I know, I know
It does look like chemtrails-lite type of thing. Is water still ok?

[Eric Mc]

Possible theme songs for the campaign -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9nE2spOw_o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjsh2j7W6Bo