WADA - Russia involved in state sponsored doping

[hornetrider]

No thread?

Well. Another reason for Putin to be cheerful. Russia now face being expelled from Rio 2016.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/athle...

[Scuffers]

hornetrider said:

No thread?

Well. Another reason for Putin to be cheerful. Russia now face being expelled from Rio 2016.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/athle...

this can only go one of two ways...

1) Putin bites the bullet and goes on an internal purge to be seen to be doing the right thing
2) Putin backs his countrymen and plays the hero domestically for all it's worth.

[mcelliott]

Highly unlikely that this is restricted to Russian athletes, doping is rife across the board in athletics. Shambolic sport. Rotten to the core.

[Crush]

mcelliott said:

Highly unlikely that this is restricted to Russian athletes, doping is rife across the board in athletics. Shambolic sport. Rotten to the core.

[anonymous-user]

Crush said:

mcelliott said:

Highly unlikely that this is restricted to Russian athletes, doping is rife across the board in athletics. Shambolic sport. Rotten to the core.

Sure but at least WADA appear to be trying to clean it up,

life bans and whole national squads getting banned if enough positive tests occur is necessary now. The amount of banned athletes competing a few months after being caught is a joke.

[ewenm]

mcelliott said:

Highly unlikely that this is restricted to Russian athletes, doping is rife across the board in athletics. Shambolic sport. Rotten to the core.

Highly unlikely this is restricted to athletics. Doping is rife across the board in professional sport.

[Foliage]

el stovey said:

Crush said:

mcelliott said:

Highly unlikely that this is restricted to Russian athletes, doping is rife across the board in athletics. Shambolic sport. Rotten to the core.

Sure but at least WADA appear to be trying to clean it up,

life bans and whole national squads getting banned if enough positive tests occur is necessary now. The amount of banned athletes competing a few months after being caught is a joke.

Someone refused to pay 'someone' a bribe so then we get this. Cheating is rife if all sports, its the way of the word considering the amount of money that involved in the sport industry these days.

ETA - its not just sport is it, corruption is rife everywhere.

[Octoposse]

mcelliott said:

Highly unlikely that this is restricted to Russian athletes, doping is rife across the board in athletics. Shambolic sport. Rotten to the core.

Quite so . . . which is why this - even with the benefit of a tin-foil hat - does smack of a Ukraine/Syria payback. Likely that's how it will be perceived at any rate.

[soad]

Dirty commies!

[ewenm]

Octoposse said:

Quite so . . . which is why this - even with the benefit of a tin-foil hat - does smack of a Ukraine/Syria payback. Likely that's how it will be perceived at any rate.

That is very tin-foil. The investigation was specifically limited to the claims made in a German documentary about state-sponsored doping in Russia. There's a separate investigation into the wider claims made by The Times (and others) regarding suspicious blood values.

The corruption won't be limited to Russia or athletics, but this report was based on Russian whistleblowers.

[mcelliott]

ewenm said:

mcelliott said:

Highly unlikely that this is restricted to Russian athletes, doping is rife across the board in athletics. Shambolic sport. Rotten to the core.

Highly unlikely this is restricted to athletics. Doping is rife across the board in professional sport.

Indeed, you are quite correct, which is why I try to restrict my viewing of sport to purely grass roots level before cynicism and cheating has taken hold.

[Mastodon2]

Octoposse said:

Quite so . . . which is why this - even with the benefit of a tin-foil hat - does smack of a Ukraine/Syria payback. Likely that's how it will be perceived at any rate.

Even though it's the result of a German investigation that was started 11 months ago?

[johnxjsc1985]

ewenm said:

That is very tin-foil. The investigation was specifically limited to the claims made in a German documentary about state-sponsored doping in Russia. There's a separate investigation into the wider claims made by The Times (and others) regarding suspicious blood values.

The corruption won't be limited to Russia or athletics, but this report was based on Russian whistleblowers.

we all know people cheat but they dont usually have the Government backing to do it.

[Foppo]

Who else besides the Russians? and Mr Seb Coe knows nothing the man in charge.

We can't trust anything anymore corruption is rive.Watch a sunday league football or rugby team.The only thing they have is booze from the nicht previous in their system.

[ewenm]

johnxjsc1985 said:

we all know people cheat but they dont usually have the Government backing to do it.

This is RUSADA, responsible for "anti-doping" for all Russian sports, not just athletics.

[ewenm]

Foppo said:

Who else besides the Russians? and Mr Seb Coe knows nothing the man in charge.

We can't trust anything anymore corruption is rive.Watch a sunday league football or rugby team.The only thing they have is booze from the nicht previous in their system.

Will certainly be interesting to see how much action Coe takes (or initiates at least), compared to how much political blustering. Time to make a difference Lord Coe. Personally I think he is too tainted by politics now.

[55palfers]

Do the "athletes" who won medals in London have to give them back?

If I came 2nd I'd be monumentally pi55ed off if they didn't

[fluffnik]

mcelliott said:

Highly unlikely that this is restricted to Russian athletes, doping is rife across the board in athletics. Shambolic sport. Rotten to the core.

Professional sport is showbiz, and in showbiz performance is everything...

[mcelliott]

http://www.bbc.com/sport/olympics/2012/medals/coun... ...and yet they can only manage fourth in the 2012 medals table. Looks like they weren't doping hard enough!

[Some Gump]

Until dope = banned for life, there'll always be chancers. Just look at that cheating pleb who was in the last olympics in a team GB top. He doesn't represent me, he's a cheater. Cheaters shouldn't get the honour of representing the country.