Top Gear producer to sue Clarkson
Discussion
J4CKO said:
Off sick, he got punched by Clarkson, an out of shape, 50 odd year old, chain smoking Rose Wine drinker, not Floyd Mayweather ffs.
I am not "hard", but neither am I a soft touch, I would like to think if he had punched me, I would not care who it was but I would have smacked him one back, then I would go back to work, the following day, with a tale to tell.
And most of the people who have heard his name think that he's a crying little I am not "hard", but neither am I a soft touch, I would like to think if he had punched me, I would not care who it was but I would have smacked him one back, then I would go back to work, the following day, with a tale to tell.
who ruined Top Gear for them. That's an enormous number of people.He's the victim of a punch but that's about 0.0000001% of this. You're thinking from the 'sticks and stones may break my bones' angle. There's a lot more than that.
Freddy88FM said:
PGNCerbera said:
What a complete fking wet lettuce. Pathetic if that is true.
Given the guy was not a star, had had no time in the spotlight at all and was suddenly the target of a endless vitriol from hundreds of thousands of 'fans' online for something that was far from his fault, it really isn't that odd that he'd be suffering with some kind of psychological trauma.king wet lettuce. Pathetic if that is true. He was pinned as the guy who took down the BBCs most popular show and faced such unbelievable levels hate. It was insane. If I were in BBC management I would have enforced time off and counselling for the guy. This is in my opinion likely to be what actually has happened. Aside from the help it will give him, it also goes some way to removing the burden of future psychological issues the guy may face down the line from the BBC.
This is not about his split lip!!
Look. This concept/viewpoint is so far removed from where I sit I am staggered. But perhaps this is the way of things these days. I'd suggest Oison needs a bloody good hiding.......
Joke. Btw. That last bit.
williamp said:
Driver101 said:
He's sat on this for a while.
Did he ever press charges for assualt? I thought he said he didn't want to to do that?
So he's not wanting a criminal conviction, just financial compensation?
He worked ontop gear. As a direct result of someones physical actions against him, the programme he works for has been cancelled and he isnt working, therefore not earning??? The bbc doesnt have any other motoring tv shows he could work onDid he ever press charges for assualt? I thought he said he didn't want to to do that?
So he's not wanting a criminal conviction, just financial compensation?
Clarkson wasn't sacked because of the incident. As the BBC pointed out, his contract wasn't renewed.
J4CKO said:
Off sick, he got punched by Clarkson, an out of shape, 50 odd year old, chain smoking Rose Wine drinker, not Floyd Mayweather ffs.
I am not "hard", but neither am I a soft touch, I would like to think if he had punched me, I would not care who it was but I would have smacked him one back, then I would go back to work, the following day, with a tale to tell.
Maybe that's the anguish that he's suffering from? Being the only Irishman on the planet who didn't give a wheezy, old, Northen Englishman a good battering that he was begging for and thus he has disgraced a whole nation of proud Paddys? I am not "hard", but neither am I a soft touch, I would like to think if he had punched me, I would not care who it was but I would have smacked him one back, then I would go back to work, the following day, with a tale to tell.
If he was suing simply on the basis of being punched for no good reason and the torment of the wholly unjustified and frankly horrific abuse that followed at the hands of utter vegetables and the fact that this has made it difficult to return to his career path as it was then he would have my support and a bloody good case I would have thought but claiming that it's about being called 'Irish' in an angry and demeaning way is just embarrassing.
Freddy88FM said:
Given the guy was not a star, had had no time in the spotlight at all and was suddenly the target of a endless vitriol from hundreds of thousands of 'fans' online for something that was far from his fault, it really isn't that odd that he'd be suffering with some kind of psychological trauma.
He was pinned as the guy who took down the BBCs most popular show and faced such unbelievable levels hate. It was insane. If I were in BBC management I would have enforced time off and counselling for the guy. This is in my opinion likely to be what actually has happened. Aside from the help it will give him, it also goes some way to removing the burden of future psychological issues the guy may face down the line from the BBC.
This is not about his split lip!!
Well saidHe was pinned as the guy who took down the BBCs most popular show and faced such unbelievable levels hate. It was insane. If I were in BBC management I would have enforced time off and counselling for the guy. This is in my opinion likely to be what actually has happened. Aside from the help it will give him, it also goes some way to removing the burden of future psychological issues the guy may face down the line from the BBC.
This is not about his split lip!!
Piersman2 said:
No. Sorry. I'm with matrignano on this one.
Portmanteau is modernly used to describe where two words are joined together to form one new word, like labradoodle, from Labrador Retriever and Poodle.
'Race discrimination is an (inaccurate) portmanteau term ' makes no sense... unless I'm missing something.
Breadvan --> Portmanteau is modernly used to describe where two words are joined together to form one new word, like labradoodle, from Labrador Retriever and Poodle.
'Race discrimination is an (inaccurate) portmanteau term ' makes no sense... unless I'm missing something.
Tannedbaldhead said:
blade7 said:
I wonder how many English people have successfully played the race card...
Not uncommon in Scotland. Police and courts deal with the matter without mercy. Breadvan72 said:
Race discrimination is an (inaccurate) portmanteau term used to cover discrimination or harassment on grounds of ethnic or national origin. Race is a silly word anyway, as there is only one human race.
Technically speaking, humans are a species, not a race. I think there are about 7 races within the human species, Negro, Caucasian etc. PGNCerbera said:
....burden of psychological issues.....really??
Look. This concept/viewpoint is so far removed from where I sit I am staggered. But perhaps this is the way of things these days. I'd suggest Oison needs a bloody good hiding.......
Joke. Btw. That last bit.
Just because you may not have experiences of Psychological or physical trauma does not make it less real. Maybe one day you will be stressed I hope not but you could doLook. This concept/viewpoint is so far removed from where I sit I am staggered. But perhaps this is the way of things these days. I'd suggest Oison needs a bloody good hiding.......
Joke. Btw. That last bit.
As an aside did you know that:
1 in 8 men in the UK were diagnosed with a mental health problem
On average 13 men each day take their life through suicide in the UK
Male suicide rate in 2013 was the highest since 2001
https://uk.movember.com/mens-health/mental-health
None of these guys are wimps
Driver101 said:
Clarkson wasn't the boss, he was a fellow employee.
To be honest, it wouldn't change my feelings whether I was punched by a junior or senior colleague. I wouldn't be too bothered either way (unless the injuries were bad).I would be bothered about the online attention, vitriol and hatred that is seen on the internet regularly towards me (if I was Oisin Tymon)
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Breadvan72 said:
Race discrimination is an (inaccurate) portmanteau term used to cover discrimination or harassment on grounds of ethnic or national origin. Race is a silly word anyway, as there is only one human race.
Technically speaking, humans are a species, not a race. I think there are about 7 races within the human species, Negro, Caucasian etc. From Wiki:
Even though there is a broad scientific agreement that essentialist and typological conceptualizations of race are untenable, scientists around the world continue to conceptualize race in widely differing ways, some of which have essentialist implications.[17] While some researchers sometimes use the concept of race to make distinctions among fuzzy sets of traits, others in the scientific community suggest that the idea of race often is used in a naive[12] or simplistic way,[18][page needed] and argue that, among humans, race has no taxonomic significance by pointing out that all living humans belong to the same species, Homo sapiens, and subspecies, Homo sapiens sapiens.[19][20]
Breadvan72 said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Breadvan72 said:
Race discrimination is an (inaccurate) portmanteau term used to cover discrimination or harassment on grounds of ethnic or national origin. Race is a silly word anyway, as there is only one human race.
Technically speaking, humans are a species, not a race. I think there are about 7 races within the human species, Negro, Caucasian etc. From Wiki:
Even though there is a broad scientific agreement that essentialist and typological conceptualizations of race are untenable, scientists around the world continue to conceptualize race in widely differing ways, some of which have essentialist implications.[17] While some researchers sometimes use the concept of race to make distinctions among fuzzy sets of traits, others in the scientific community suggest that the idea of race often is used in a naive[12] or simplistic way,[18][page needed] and argue that, among humans, race has no taxonomic significance by pointing out that all living humans belong to the same species, Homo sapiens, and subspecies, Homo sapiens sapiens.[19][20]
Driver101 said:
Clarkson wasn't the boss, he was a fellow employee.
So your saying there is no hierarchal order within the BBC? they are all employees with the same grade? I think you will find that the salary scale alone would make Clarkson the boss which is also why he was getting someone else to get the evening meal. But I could be wrong maybe its the other way around. Humans are indeed a species, biologically speaking, and this is rigorously defined in biology (boring details on request). Most biologists view the concept of "race" as synonymous with "variety" or "breed" in other species. Hence Caucasian is to Afro-Caribbean as Labrador is to Alsatian or Cox's Orange Pippin is to Bramley.
battered said:
Humans are indeed a species, biologically speaking, and this is rigorously defined in biology (boring details on request). Most biologists view the concept of "race" as synonymous with "variety" or "breed" in other species. Hence Caucasian is to Afro-Caribbean as Labrador is to Alsatian or Cox's Orange Pippin is to Bramley.
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