Even the middle classes are beginning to feel the pinch
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TTwiggy said:
Good show - here goes then. I earn eleventynine billion a year in 'The City' and spend £300k a week sending the cat on holiday. But as soon as my supermodel wife gives birth I will be cutting back a bit in order to afford the little luxuries I so fully deserve (whale foreskin slippers and disposable gold nasal-hair pluckers are NOT cheap). Therefore my children will be sent out to work as soon as they can support their own head, we shall be eating compost and travelling to work by unicyle.
TTwiggy said:
Mario149 said:
TTwiggy said:
I have no idea if you're lying. I do know that at least one proven forum fantasist has already posted however.
I'd suggest that you direct your disbelief and ire at them directly then, rather than firing a general broadside. pork911 said:
searching for megan specialising in personal injury yields 5 results, of those two are in london, one admitted '05 the other '14, the article indicates salary and the search anyway gives details of their firms which have websites with further details of their people
Top stalking. SORT YOUR ACT OUT TONKER Strange - when it comes to getting involved in yet another war (every one more crazy than the last) or bailing out bankers from the consequences of their greed and fraud, there's never an issue about money from our erstwhile political leaders.
But when it comes to things like education, healthcare and welfare (the sorts of things that actually benefit regular people) then we must remember that "we're all in this together" and practice austerity.
But when it comes to things like education, healthcare and welfare (the sorts of things that actually benefit regular people) then we must remember that "we're all in this together" and practice austerity.
Gecko1978 said:
St albans girls school is a fee paying school that has in the last 5 years not had a child get less than a B grade in any exam. So I would suggest their daughter might go there. St Albans also has the aptly named "Boys School", with similar academic results. The State school St Albans All Girls School locally known as Stags, also records some of the highest exam results in the country. So its not really full of grotty state schools. Though they might struglle to buy in harpendon as a 4 bed property is around the £1 million mark so yeah a real dump.
@TT do you not think perhaps less wealth waving more complete amazment that a couple with such an income are so blind as to see how they can afford what they want etc and yet had to go to a newspaper to get advice.
just a pair of fkwits really...
Agree on Harpenden pricing ( about same as GX and beaconsfield - need around 1m ) @TT do you not think perhaps less wealth waving more complete amazment that a couple with such an income are so blind as to see how they can afford what they want etc and yet had to go to a newspaper to get advice.
just a pair of fkwits really...
A friend has a 3 bed detached in a decent area of St. Albans - worth maybe 500-600 ... But a bigger 4 bed house in the conservation area would be around 850k- 1m.
I would imagine the 0.5m house would still be better than the 750k house the couple are in now- though as I suggested .. Nothing special ... Though not grotty.
If he kids are smart : beaconsfield probably better as they have a grammar school ( IIRC)
MajorMantra said:
Someone's beat you on the fundraising page: https://www.gofundme.com/zxb6kzcs
I just had a look at that... Seven people have each donated a fiver!!!!Does that mean that whoever had the idea of putting the page up for a joke is now £35 better off as a result?
Lucas Ayde said:
Strange - when it comes to getting involved in yet another war (every one more crazy than the last) or bailing out bankers from the consequences of their greed and fraud, there's never an issue about money from our erstwhile political leaders.
But when it comes to things like education, healthcare and welfare (the sorts of things that actually benefit regular people) then we must remember that "we're all in this together" and practice austerity.
You are rather confused. The banking crisis occurred in 2008 and, together with the fact that Brown had spent all the money from the good years, led to the need for savings or "austerity". We have a defence budget every year. The cost of military action will come from that budget. But when it comes to things like education, healthcare and welfare (the sorts of things that actually benefit regular people) then we must remember that "we're all in this together" and practice austerity.
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Property not cheap but certainly cheaper than London. You can get a family home for 500k ( though not special).
And state schools are good.How precisely is move to a grotty house in the are end of no where and send your kids to the local state school useful advice for a couple who want to educate their children privately and protect their lifestyle?Because my suggestion is not what you state.
St Albans and Harpenden are not the arse end of nowhere
Who said a 500k house was 'grotty' - only you
the local state schools are excellent - unlike a lot of the rough ones in London. ( which is precisely why a lot of well off professionals choose to live in those places ( and in other commutable places like gerrards cross and beaconsfield ).
You are obviously unfamiliar with Herts Beds and Bucks.You were the one who described the £500k houses in that part of the world as nothing special.
Sorry but St Albans & Harpenden are the arse end of nowhere; neither metropolitan or rural they're pure Terry & June land
I'm sure that the local state schools are very good but the couple in question don't want to educate their children in the maintained sector.
alfaman said:
ClaphamGT3 said:
alfaman said:
Mario149 said:
To clarify CGT3's comment, £750K will roughly get you a nice 3 bed flat in Putney/Wandsworth in a conversion 15 mins walk from a train/tube station, or a 3 bed not very nice identikit terrace/ex LA house 20 mins+ from a station.
I'm not advocating that the couple stay put, but we do need to clarify that just because you're 1 hr from London on the train doesn't mean that is your commute. You'll take 15 mins to get to the station at the start and at least that to get from waterloo/paddington etc to your office, on average (it's not hard and fast for me as I move work locations a lot). So it's really 1.5hrs+ and can easily be 2hrs. We're looking at moving out of town to get more space, and we're investigating areas that will get me to a main London station from the front door in 1hr or less so that my total commute is <1.5hrs each way, and there aren't many places outside the M25 you can do that!
You can get into town very quickly from St. Albans and Harpenden : about 20 and 30 mins or less each into Farringdon.I'm not advocating that the couple stay put, but we do need to clarify that just because you're 1 hr from London on the train doesn't mean that is your commute. You'll take 15 mins to get to the station at the start and at least that to get from waterloo/paddington etc to your office, on average (it's not hard and fast for me as I move work locations a lot). So it's really 1.5hrs+ and can easily be 2hrs. We're looking at moving out of town to get more space, and we're investigating areas that will get me to a main London station from the front door in 1hr or less so that my total commute is <1.5hrs each way, and there aren't many places outside the M25 you can do that!
Property not cheap but certainly cheaper than London. You can get a family home for 500k ( though not special).
And state schools are good.
St Albans and Harpenden are not the arse end of nowhere
Who said a 500k house was 'grotty' - only you
the local state schools are excellent - unlike a lot of the rough ones in London. ( which is precisely why a lot of well off professionals choose to live in those places ( and in other commutable places like gerrards cross and beaconsfield ).
You are obviously unfamiliar with Herts Beds and Bucks.
Sorry but St Albans & Harpenden are the arse end of nowhere; neither metropolitan or rural they're pure Terry & June land
I'm sure that the local state schools are very good but the couple in question don't want to educate their children in the maintained sector.
ClaphamGT3 said:
Sorry but St Albans & Harpenden are the arse end of nowhere; neither metropolitan or rural they're pure Terry & June land
I live somewhere similarly suburban -& in the northern provinces 😳 - I quite like it. Local amenities, plenty of parks. Countryside nearby. hills and mountains fairly close, short rail journeys into the local provincial village(Manchester).It's not in the middle of a city, thankfully, nor is it Chatsworth, but that's fine.
It seems a funny thing to be snobbish about.
ClaphamGT3 said:
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Property not cheap but certainly cheaper than London. You can get a family home for 500k ( though not special).
And state schools are good.How precisely is move to a grotty house in the are end of no where and send your kids to the local state school useful advice for a couple who want to educate their children privately and protect their lifestyle?Because my suggestion is not what you state.
St Albans and Harpenden are not the arse end of nowhere
Who said a 500k house was 'grotty' - only you
the local state schools are excellent - unlike a lot of the rough ones in London. ( which is precisely why a lot of well off professionals choose to live in those places ( and in other commutable places like gerrards cross and beaconsfield ).
You are obviously unfamiliar with Herts Beds and Bucks.You were the one who described the £500k houses in that part of the world as nothing special.
Sorry but St Albans & Harpenden are the arse end of nowhere; neither metropolitan or rural they're pure Terry & June land
I'm sure that the local state schools are very good but the couple in question don't want to educate their children in the maintained sector.
did I just not given examples of fee paying schools there also. An we are agreed they would not want to live there as they could not afford it. Incidentally they are both on the edge of the M25 and M1 with sub 1 hour to 3 of London's airports 40 mins from the city of less. The couple in question want a zone 2 postcode maybe but to suggest moving out of London is to move to a dump is just baseless. Also when working in Victoria a few years ago after bank moved us from morgate. I living in herts (though not either or those towns) had a shorter commute than a collegue who lived in zone 1 as he had to take a few busees to get to the office where as I got train then tube.alfaman said:
ClaphamGT3 said:
alfaman said:
Mario149 said:
To clarify CGT3's comment, £750K will roughly get you a nice 3 bed flat in Putney/Wandsworth in a conversion 15 mins walk from a train/tube station, or a 3 bed not very nice identikit terrace/ex LA house 20 mins+ from a station.
I'm not advocating that the couple stay put, but we do need to clarify that just because you're 1 hr from London on the train doesn't mean that is your commute. You'll take 15 mins to get to the station at the start and at least that to get from waterloo/paddington etc to your office, on average (it's not hard and fast for me as I move work locations a lot). So it's really 1.5hrs+ and can easily be 2hrs. We're looking at moving out of town to get more space, and we're investigating areas that will get me to a main London station from the front door in 1hr or less so that my total commute is <1.5hrs each way, and there aren't many places outside the M25 you can do that!
You can get into town very quickly from St. Albans and Harpenden : about 20 and 30 mins or less each into Farringdon.I'm not advocating that the couple stay put, but we do need to clarify that just because you're 1 hr from London on the train doesn't mean that is your commute. You'll take 15 mins to get to the station at the start and at least that to get from waterloo/paddington etc to your office, on average (it's not hard and fast for me as I move work locations a lot). So it's really 1.5hrs+ and can easily be 2hrs. We're looking at moving out of town to get more space, and we're investigating areas that will get me to a main London station from the front door in 1hr or less so that my total commute is <1.5hrs each way, and there aren't many places outside the M25 you can do that!
Property not cheap but certainly cheaper than London. You can get a family home for 500k ( though not special).
And state schools are good.
St Albans and Harpenden are not the arse end of nowhere
Who said a 500k house was 'grotty' - only you
the local state schools are excellent - unlike a lot of the rough ones in London. ( which is precisely why a lot of well off professionals choose to live in those places ( and in other commutable places like gerrards cross and beaconsfield ).
You are obviously unfamiliar with Herts Beds and Bucks.
Sorry but St Albans & Harpenden are the arse end of nowhere; neither metropolitan or rural they're pure Terry & June land
I'm sure that the local state schools are very good but the couple in question don't want to educate their children in the maintained sector.
Again couple in question are just fkwits.
Zod said:
You are rather confused. The banking crisis occurred in 2008 and, together with the fact that Brown had spent all the money from the good years, led to the need for savings or "austerity". We have a defence budget every year. The cost of military action will come from that budget.
Ah yes. Continuing austerity - nearly 8 years later, getting worse. Not idealogical at all!Just found out that in our borough 4 out of 6 libraries and most of the children centre's are closing. What a lovely place Britain is becoming.
Mario149 said:
TTwiggy said:
I have no idea if you're lying. I do know that at least one proven forum fantasist has already posted however.
I'd suggest that you direct your disbelief and ire at them directly then, rather than firing a general broadside. vonuber said:
Ah yes. Continuing austerity - nearly 8 years later, getting worse. Not idealogical at all!
Just found out that in our borough 4 out of 6 libraries and most of the children centre's are closing. What a lovely place Britain is becoming.
How much longer do you expect libraries to exist though?Just found out that in our borough 4 out of 6 libraries and most of the children centre's are closing. What a lovely place Britain is becoming.
I don't know about elsewhere, but Surrey Libraries already offer digital access to dozens of magazines and newspapers and tens of thousands of books. How long before it becomes reasonable for them to move the library service to being an online offering only?
According to Ofcom, the percentage of homes owning at least one tablet has risen from 2% in 2011 to 52% today! Yes, of course, there may always be a small percentage of households who don't have the capability to access the internet, but how long can that small percentage be allowed to hold the rest of the tax-paying public to ransom?
If nothing else, there will come a point, pretty soon, where it would be cheaper for the government to furnish those remaining internetless homes with the ability to get online than it is to keep the libraries open.
Personally, I love reading actual books, and I get 95% of them from the library, but that doesn't mean I don't recognise them as being an anachronism. In many ways, they're the 21st century equivalent of the farrier, but the electronic word is replacing the printed one at a rate which makes cars vs horses look positively glacial.
MajorMantra said:
Cotty said:
I hate part timers, either do a full week or fk off.
What an odd thing to say. Choosing a better work-life balance in exchange for slightly less cash seems a perfectly rational thing to do. Why you'd bother hating people who do this I have no idea.moleamol said:
MajorMantra said:
Cotty said:
I hate part timers, either do a full week or fk off.
What an odd thing to say. Choosing a better work-life balance in exchange for slightly less cash seems a perfectly rational thing to do. Why you'd bother hating people who do this I have no idea.If you just have to deal with a single person who doesn't work Thursdays, it's not too bad, but if you end up with a bid team where one person doesn't work Thursdays and another doesn't work Tuesdays & Fridays, the whole team starts to get slowed down to match, and it becomes an inefficient nightmare.
Not everyone who works part time does so in a job where they can be easily interchanged with another person doing an opposite part time shift.
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