Even the middle classes are beginning to feel the pinch
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Gecko1978 said:
did I just not given examples of fee paying schools there also. An we are agreed they would not want to live there as they could not afford it. Incidentally they are both on the edge of the M25 and M1 with sub 1 hour to 3 of London's airports 40 mins from the city of less. The couple in question want a zone 2 postcode maybe but to suggest moving out of London is to move to a dump is just baseless. Also when working in Victoria a few years ago after bank moved us from morgate. I living in herts (though not either or those towns) had a shorter commute than a collegue who lived in zone 1 as he had to take a few busees to get to the office where as I got train then tube.
Again couple in question are just f
kwits.
when I used to commute in from bedfordshire ( to Barbican , then Soho, then Euston ) .. commute time was less than most work colleagues living in London - especially those commuting in from south of the river ( Clapham etc ), Chiswick or out near Kingston / East Molesey.Again couple in question are just f
kwits.I cant help wonder what career damage the muppet management consultant in the article has done ... he is meant to be smart enough to advise business leaders on how to run a business
.. but can't figure out how to balance his own budget on a family income of nearly 200k GBP ..to the extent he wants to 'go public' with his inability.
employing him as a business advisor would be like hiring a 40 yr old virgin (who has read lots of textbooks, but never had a girlfriend) on dating / relationship advice
Whenever a poll on this site asks how much you earn, how little of your income your mortgage is, or whatever else it always would seem that generally people are incredibly well off. Whenever a thread like this comes along you start to see how many people lie in pistonhead polls.
700k is decent 2 bed flat money in much of SW London. Not some palatial townhouse in whatever the popular village is in Clapham this week.
700k is decent 2 bed flat money in much of SW London. Not some palatial townhouse in whatever the popular village is in Clapham this week.
anonymous said:
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would you want to be him in the office now.....hahaha.I have not seen this in mainstream media other than source article so I am guessing its just click bait for us on here etc. But had I been in the paper talking about my inability to balance my budget I would be worried about my career prospects long term.
TTwiggy said:
Well, fblm is a confirmed 'rich bloke' and he clearly thinks it's funny. Maybe you just don't 'get' me? 
Good for him If you were having a joke and weren't trying to publicly insinuate I was somehow lording it over people/willy waving and/or lying, all is well and good 
However, to me it didn't read that way but I'm open to a whoosh parrot on that front okgo said:
Whenever a poll on this site asks how much you earn, how little of your income your mortgage is, or whatever else it always would seem that generally people are incredibly well off. Whenever a thread like this comes along you start to see how many people lie in pistonhead polls.
Unless you can demonstrate that the same people are involved in the two types of thread and the posts in them, there's no case to answer. You may be right but it's not likely due to the sheer numbers involved and the lack of any established match.Must go now, I need to save on pixels.
el stovey said:
Mario149 said:
TTwiggy said:
I have no idea if you're lying. I do know that at least one proven forum fantasist has already posted however.
I'd suggest that you direct your disbelief and ire at them directly then, rather than firing a general broadside. ker and a liar for no good reason, but I'm not. I wouldn't have taken issue if it was "BMW drivers are knobs", but when there's only about 2 other people in the target group posting on the thread I do. Edited by Mario149 on Wednesday 25th November 10:50
MC Bodge said:
....suburban....
It's not in the middle of a city, thankfully, nor is it Chatsworth, but that's fine.
It seems a funny thing to be snobbish about.
I don't think its an issue of being snobbish, I think it's an issue of what many people moving out of London want and how it is formed by their experience of having lived there. If you've lived somewhere where everything is massively convenient and on your doorstep, moving to the 'burbs where it's similar just not as good, probably doesn't seem very inviting. And I reckon, from friends and family that have done it, that the main reasons for moving out are: much more space for your money, few if any neighbours and peace & quiet - the sacrifice obviously being commuting times and convenience. The 'burbs don't really provide this. It's not in the middle of a city, thankfully, nor is it Chatsworth, but that's fine.
It seems a funny thing to be snobbish about.
Mario149 said:
TTwiggy said:
Well, fblm is a confirmed 'rich bloke' and he clearly thinks it's funny. Maybe you just don't 'get' me?
Good for him If you were having a joke and weren't trying to publicly insinuate I was somehow lording it over people/willy waving and/or lying, all is well and good However, to me it didn't read that way but I'm open to a whoosh parrot on that front Mario149 said:
If he was being serious then I wouldn't want to be lumped with the others on a public forum. You might be okay with being "tarred" by association as a bit of a wker and a liar for no good reason, but I'm not. I wouldn't have taken issue if it was "BMW drivers are knobs", but when there's only about 2 other people in the target group posting on the thread I do.
Blimey.ker and a liar for no good reason, but I'm not. I wouldn't have taken issue if it was "BMW drivers are knobs", but when there's only about 2 other people in the target group posting on the thread I do. Zod said:
You are rather confused. The banking crisis occurred in 2008 and, together with the fact that Brown had spent all the money from the good years, led to the need for savings or "austerity". We have a defence budget every year. The cost of military action will come from that budget.
You're the one who seems a little confused - the point which is that when it comes to bailing out banks, money is no object at all. There was already a huge national debt and a structural deficit in 2008 so it's not there was a load of cash around to spare back then. Likewise when it comes to jumping into wars, the cost has never been an issue no matter what the state of national finances.On the other hand, when it comes to providing basic services to taxpayers, such as health, education and social welfare, suddenly we all have to worry where the money is coming from.
This goes for pretty much any government, though the current lot are worse for it than most. It's almost as if the government are in thrall to certain vested interests and just try to pull the wool over the eyes of the general public who wind up paying the bill to make sure said vested interests do all right.
a_bread said:
I wonder which of them is the management consultant. Inability to understand the causes of and solutions to their own rather straightforward financial problems would seem to cast doubt on his or her management consultancy skills.
It's the chap. And apparently he may be 'overselling' his role somewhat (maybe he posts on here? ). It seems the bulk of their income is from the wife who is quite a senior lawyer.Lucas Ayde said:
...the point which is that when it comes to bailing out banks, money is no object at all...
If you think it was a bad idea remind us which government bailed out the banks.Lucas Ayde said:
Likewise when it comes to jumping into wars, the cost has never been an issue no matter what the state of national finances.
You need to drop Tony Blair a note on that score. This latest episode got going with war jumping into various countries.Lucas Ayde said:
On the other hand, when it comes to providing basic services to taxpayers, such as health, education and social welfare, suddenly we all have to worry where the money is coming from.
Were tax credit cuts not scrapped, pensions increased, funding for the NHS increased including a £3.8bn injection to help reduce financial pressure, education now due a real-terms increase and police funding also about to go up in real terms?Lucas Ayde said:
This goes for pretty much any government...
Not really, over the past 40 years or so we've seen Labour governments screw the economy making life difficult for almost everyone, then the Conservativesfix it with some necessary medicine followed by growth and jobs.
All governments are not the same. Before the Conservatives got a majority, their economic policies had already seen Birmingham add more jobs to its economy in a year than the whole of France, with Britain adding more than the rest of Europe.
Don't worry too much about where the money is coming from, at least less of it is being splashed on the country's maxed out credit card.
Jeremy 'Golden Farces' Corbyn and Ronald McDonnell would be soooo much better
turbobloke said:
Not really, over the past 40 years or so we've seen Labour governments screw the economy making life difficult for almost everyone, then the Conservatives
fix it with some necessary medicine followed by growth and jobs.
All governments are not the same. Before the Conservatives got a majority, their economic policies had already seen Birmingham add more jobs to its economy in a year than the whole of France, with Britain adding more than the rest of Europe.
Don't worry too much about where the money is coming from, at least less of it is being splashed on the country's maxed out credit card.
Jeremy 'Golden Farces' Corbyn and Ronald McDonnell would be soooo much better
Aaaand you totally missed the point. As I pointed out - ALL governments in recent memory have engaged in mugging the public and pleading poverty when it comes to providing them services, whilst sacred cows like defence and banking get all the money that will fit into their boots - irrespective of public finances (which have been dire for decades now, there's a structural deficit).fix it with some necessary medicine followed by growth and jobs.
All governments are not the same. Before the Conservatives got a majority, their economic policies had already seen Birmingham add more jobs to its economy in a year than the whole of France, with Britain adding more than the rest of Europe.
Don't worry too much about where the money is coming from, at least less of it is being splashed on the country's maxed out credit card.
Jeremy 'Golden Farces' Corbyn and Ronald McDonnell would be soooo much better
It's just that this lot are a bit more brazen about it. Maybe they figure the public have got dumber.
Mario149 said:
el stovey said:
Mario149 said:
TTwiggy said:
I have no idea if you're lying. I do know that at least one proven forum fantasist has already posted however.
I'd suggest that you direct your disbelief and ire at them directly then, rather than firing a general broadside. ker and a liar for no good reason, but I'm not. I wouldn't have taken issue if it was "BMW drivers are knobs", but when there's only about 2 other people in the target group posting on the thread I do. Edited by Mario149 on Wednesday 25th November 10:50
Lucas Ayde said:
turbobloke said:
Not really, over the past 40 years or so we've seen Labour governments screw the economy making life difficult for almost everyone, then the Conservatives
fix it with some necessary medicine followed by growth and jobs.
All governments are not the same. Before the Conservatives got a majority, their economic policies had already seen Birmingham add more jobs to its economy in a year than the whole of France, with Britain adding more than the rest of Europe.
Don't worry too much about where the money is coming from, at least less of it is being splashed on the country's maxed out credit card.
Jeremy 'Golden Farces' Corbyn and Ronald McDonnell would be soooo much better
Aaaand you totally missed the point. As I pointed out - ALL governments in recent memory have engaged in mugging the public and pleading poverty when it comes to providing them services, whilst sacred cows like defence and banking get all the money that will fit into their boots - irrespective of public finances (which have been dire for decades now, there's a structural deficit).fix it with some necessary medicine followed by growth and jobs.
All governments are not the same. Before the Conservatives got a majority, their economic policies had already seen Birmingham add more jobs to its economy in a year than the whole of France, with Britain adding more than the rest of Europe.
Don't worry too much about where the money is coming from, at least less of it is being splashed on the country's maxed out credit card.
Jeremy 'Golden Farces' Corbyn and Ronald McDonnell would be soooo much better
One more point, there's not much point in repeating the reasons - which you conveniently ignored first time around.
Lucas Ayde said:
It's just that this lot are a bit more brazen about it. Maybe they figure the public have got dumber.
Brazen about fixing the economy, creating jobs, reducing borrowing, balancing spending pressures with the interests of the people who actually pay for everything, all good.Lucas Ayde said:
Aaaand you totally missed the point. As I pointed out - ALL governments in recent memory have engaged in mugging the public and pleading poverty when it comes to providing them services, whilst sacred cows like defence and banking get all the money that will fit into their boots - irrespective of public finances (which have been dire for decades now, there's a structural deficit).
It's just that this lot are a bit more brazen about it. Maybe they figure the public have got dumber.
It's just that this lot are a bit more brazen about it. Maybe they figure the public have got dumber.
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