Trident - cost

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Rollin said:

Bluebarge said:

Rollin said:

So you still don't understand what a deterrent is?

So you still don't understand what asymmetric warfare is? Or why we went from the nuclear tripwire strategy (unrealistic) to flexible response and back to nuclear tripwire (but only on grounds of cost) even though it doesn't make sense? You don't understand the moral judgements involved in unleashing devastating nuclear war that could end human civilisation simply because one state threatens to invade another (as they have done throughout time)? You don't understand how tactical nuclear weapons may be a better alternative? You don't understand how weak our conventional forces have become due to the strain of funding an unusable deterrent? You don't understand how self-determination works? You don't understand what civil disobedience can do? You don't understand that Westminster is never likely to deploy force to remain one part of the UK to remain in the Union against its will? You don't understand the significance of 95% of Scottish constituencies returning Nationalist MPs at the last election?

You have some thinking to do by the looks of it.

So asymmetric warfare is the UKs only future threat? Your psychic abilities would be useful at the MoD.
Since the UK has had a nuclear deterrent, when has it been threatened with invasion? Have our 'weak conventional forces' been the deterrent?
Discuss your moral hangups with Putin.

Just watching the Guy Martin prog on the Vulcan.

Really good bit in the middle of it about what the nuclear deterrent is and how it 'works'

basically, they cover the Cuban missile crisis, where we had Vulcan's spooled up with nuclear bombs loaded, waiting to go in full view of the Russians.

The idea was to leave them in NO DOUBT they were looking at the end-game of mutual destruction.

No room for a Corbin'esk "I won't push the button" bullst.

THAT is a nuclear deterrent, and YES we have used it every day since the 1950's

Some people would do well to study history and understand how we are where we are.

[Motorrad]

Here's a plan. As it will never be used- just crack on we've got a nuclear deterrent and don't bother actually having one.

Obviously we can't tell anyone and still need to keep up our spending commitments commensurately. The resulting budget surfeit could then be used to fund purchases of pornographic material, alcohol and other contraband items.